Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[HTC]

Update for Louisiana. I’m starting to see the beginning of a trend. If it continues to hold, it could be an indicator of the number of ventilators needed. The number on ventilator continue, at here, to be about 10% of those who have tested positive.

3,315 cases now, with 25,000 tests performed. 927 are hospitalized, with 336 on ventilator. Deaths increased in the last 24 hours to 137 from 119.

Louisiana Coronavirus | La Dept. of Health

The Louisiana Department of Health protects and promotes health and ensures access to medical, preventive and rehabilitative services for all citizens of the State of Louisiana.

ldh.la.gov

Now go check New York, then check the whole country and then the whole world ...

Some people fail to realize that the lack of enough quantity of this apparatus in facing this virus is synonym of a MAJOR health crisis.

Now imagine if we reach 10 million infected worldwide: are there enough ventilators in the world for 1 million people? And there are STILL those that think it's a good idea to let people get infected until herd immunity is achieved ...

 

[biffzinker]

And there are STILL those that think it's a good idea to let people get infected until herd immunity is achieved ...

That would only work if everyone was exposed to a crippled version of the virus (vaccine?) Otherwise it's too much of a risk to be exposing people to a virus they have no chance of defeating even if it goes against 'only the fittest survive.'

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Lots of data points and general facts here:

Coronavirus: knowns and unknowns

Coronavirus: knowns and unknowns A roundup of questions that researchers and doctors-as well as policymakers and economists-are still trying to answer.

graphics.reuters.com

Particularly interesting:

 

[TheLostSwede]

How much ‘normal’ risk does Covid represent?

An article by Nick Triggle on BBC Online raises the issue of whether many deaths from COVID-19 would have occurred anyway as part of the…

medium.com

 

[lexluthermiester]

How much ‘normal’ risk does Covid represent?

An article by Nick Triggle on BBC Online raises the issue of whether many deaths from COVID-19 would have occurred anyway as part of the…

medium.com

I wonder how accurate this is. If correct, it would certainly explain what is going on in Italy and Spain...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

The thing is...it doesn't reflect the results of triage. If there's a 50 year old and a 60 year old that need a ventilator and there is only one available, the 50 year old gets it condemning the 60 year old to death. They might not necessarily be dying because of COVID-19 directly, but the healthcare system's inability to handle all the cases.

Triage (medical term for what I just described) is undeniably raising the elderly's death rates.

Both graphs above seem to just reflect cases in US/UK, not Italy/Spain. US/UK haven't had many (if any) triage induced deaths yet. In other words, the 85+ year old demographic is by far the most vulnerable.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I wonder how accurate this is. If correct, it would certainly explain what is going on in Italy and Spain...

I'm no expert, but the data seems to be collected from sound sources, in as much as possible.
Maybe it's mother earth deciding that she needed to clean out some of the older population, as there are too many of us on this planet..?

 

[EarthDog]

I'm not expert, but the data seems to be collected from sound sources, in as much as possible.
Maybe it's mother earth deciding that she needed to clean out some of the older population, as there are too many of us on this planet..?

We'll never know. All too often the elderly and immuno deficient are at higher risk anyway. Add pulmonary issues on top of it... bleh.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

USA data is collected via CDC death certificates. There's a standardized form filled out for every death.

Hospitalization/ICU? That's more complicated. Not sure how they're collecting that data.

 

[biffzinker]

Even the elderly have something to give to the younger generation, and I feel there not getting the chance they deserve even if comes down to deciding who gets to live because of a limit on resources. How would you feel telling your own Mother in here mid 60's welp you had a good run but it's for the best you die because someone else is more valuable to save.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Sadly, that's exactly what triage is...

Triage - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[robot zombie]

Even the elderly have something to give to the younger generation, and I feel there not getting the chance they deserve even if comes down to deciding who gets to live because of a limit on resources. How would you feel telling your own Mother in here mid 60's welp you had a good run but it's for the best you die because someone else is more valuable to save.

Most have already given enough to get a pass on giving more imo. How many of those people are parents who basically dedicated large chunks of their adult lives to enduring the physical, mental, and financial burden of bringing more contributing members of society up in the world? If we younger generations can't take care of the ones who held up the world for us while we were still figuring our shit out, the whole thing is really falling apart.

By the time it comes down to having to weigh the value of human life, there's already been a fundamental failure. That's always been my answer to the classic philosophical "who lives?" situation. We have to build things up so as to minimize having to make the choice in the first place. And where find we can't avoid it, learn to. It's about not getting into that predicament in the first place.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

The thing is...it doesn't reflect the results of triage. If there's a 50 year old and a 60 year old that need a ventilator and there is only one available, the 50 year old gets condemning the 60 year old to death. They might not necessarily be dying because of COVID-19 directly, but the healthcare system's inability to handle all the cases.

Triage (medical term for what I just described) is undeniably raising the elderly's death rates.

Both graphs above seem to just reflect cases in US/UK, not Italy/Spain. US/UK haven't had many (if any) triage induced deaths yet. In other words, the 85+ year old demographic is by far the most vulnerable.

In NYC, due to the crush of COVID-19 patients and the dwindling supply of ventilators, there have been instances where two people share one ventilator, which is usually only done in an absolute emergency. Unfortunately, now is that time.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

They're experimenting with it. How it works out will determine if they do it elsewhere.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

^They shouldn't HAVE to though, is what I'm saying.

 

[biffzinker]

What bothers me the most is any lose of life no matter the circumstances that could of avoided it is what bothers me the most. Yeah stuff will happen, I get that but is this the outcome those people that have died deserve? Any lose of life still bothers me even if I didn't know who they were.

 

[lexluthermiester]

In NYC, due to the crush of COVID-19 patients and the dwindling supply of ventilators, there have been instances where two people share one ventilator, which is usually only done in an absolute emergency. Unfortunately, now is that time.

That has been happening in California as well.

 

[Regeneration]

The federal government should have better prepared to this. It's been weeks since it hit Asia and Europe.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

^They shouldn't HAVE to though, is what I'm saying.

Ventilators are normally only used in cases of severe pneumonia which isn't very common. A contagious virus causing pneumonia is the reason why lockdowns are happening: the virus is exploiting a weakness in healthcare.

The federal government should have better prepared to this. It's been weeks since it hit Asia and Europe.

The fact FEMA had just short of 10,000 ventilators in reserve was preparedness. To prepare for COVID-19 would have required insane numbers of ventilators. No one was going to procure all that because of the odds needing it were so remote.

Even with ramping up production, most of the ventilators bought as a result of COVID-19 won't be needed in a few years. They'll collect dust until they expire and get disposed of.

 

[moproblems99]

The whole idea of these lockdowns and partial lockdowns in Western states is primarily to flatten the curve. That means: a reduction in social contact. Not an elimination. The average infection rate is at 3 people per infected. The goal is to reduce that to 1; when reduced to one, the curve is flat and hospitals can handle the new patients while the old ones go out, things stabilize and we can get things under control. Its all about that exponential bit of things that needs to go away. For perspective, your average flu has about 1.2 infection rate.

No matter what sort of lockdown you would have had, closing amenities in your neighbourhood was going to happen anyway. Its just a matter of time and its not anyone's fault. Consider for a moment you could have just as easily carried it already yourself and spread it amongst your relatives too. You don't know, and neither do they. So what are the options?

I understand what they are for. What they are not for is to get locked down and then decide this is not for you so you pack up shop and go to your beach house 1500 miles away who are not locked down. All the while bringing the virus with you AND pissing and moaning about other's response when you can't do your basic duty of riding this out at your PRIMARY residence. I know it isn't going to stop anything but you don't have to be an asshat and spread the shit faster all because you feel the rules don't apply to you.

Note: All uses of 'you' are royal.

Again, I know that statistics dictate people are going to be assholes. If you were an asshole before the virus you are going to be an asshole during the virus. These are just the things that piss me off and cause me to vent.

 

[Xzibit]

The federal government should have better prepared to this. It's been weeks since it hit Asia and Europe.

Hospitals didnt want to spend their budgets stock piling either without re-assurance that State or Feds were going to compensate them.

 

[HTC]

Ventilators are normally only used in cases of severe pneumonia which isn't very common. A contagious virus causing pneumonia is the reason why lockdowns are happening: the virus is exploiting a weakness in healthcare.


The fact FEMA had just short of 10,000 ventilators in reserve was preparedness. To prepare for COVID-19 would have required insane numbers of ventilators. No one was going to procure all that because of the odds needing it were so remote.

Even with ramping up production, most of the ventilators bought as a result of COVID-19 won't be needed in a few years. They'll collect dust until they expire and get disposed of.

And that's why it's IMPERATIVE to try and slow it @ the beginning rather than be complacent and react @ a later date. Obviously, stop it entirely is virtually impossible but severely delaying it IS VERY MUCH POSSIBLE.

Unfortunately, most of the world didn't consider China resorting to building TWO MASSIVE HOSPITALS in under TWO WEEKS as a serious enough warning and now we're all paying the price for that

 

[FordGT90Concept]

FEMA is doing that across the USA now.

NYC:

New York City's Javits Center transforming into field hospital

Governor Andrew Cuomo said the Javits Center in Manhattan is being transformed into a hospital with 1,000 beds.

www.cbsnews.com

Military field hospitals heading to New York City and Seattle this week to fight coronavirus

The U.S. Navy is helping ease the burden on overwhelmed civilian hospitals by agreeing to take patients who do not have the COVID-19 virus causing havoc around the globe.

www.washingtontimes.com

Samaritan's Purse emergency field hospital deploys to New York City

Samaritan's Purse deployed its emergency field hospital to New York City to help with coronavirus medical treatment Friday.

www.wxii12.com

Detroit:

Detroit auto show canceled, after FEMA commandeers convention center as field hospital

The Detroit auto show has been canceled, after the convention center where it was due to be held was taken over by FEMA to use as a field hospital for coronavirus patients.

www.nbcnews.com

New Orleans:

New Orleans Convention Center to be emergency field hospital

The last time the convention hall was used in an emergency was during Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

www.wwltv.com

San Francisco:

Santa Clara Convention Center transforms into coronavirus hospital

Bay Area counties preparing for a potential surge of patients stricken with COVID-19....

www.sfchronicle.com

Los Angeles:

Staples Center, L.A. Convention Center, Aqueduct Racetrack And O.C. Fairgrounds Could Be Used As Emergency Hospitals

COVID-19 cases are rising, with the percentages so far indicating a large number of people will get seriously ill from the virus. As such, government officials are preparing to handle a patient overflow by using non-traditional venues as hospitals. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said during a...

www.yahoo.com

Florida:

Orange County Convention Center parking lot will be used as coronavirus testing zone

The parking lot of the Orange County Convention Center will be used as a testing zone for coronavirus, according to convention center officials.

www.clickorlando.com

 

[HTC]

FEMA is doing that across the USA now. For sure NYC:

New York City's Javits Center transforming into field hospital

Governor Andrew Cuomo said the Javits Center in Manhattan is being transformed into a hospital with 1,000 beds.

www.cbsnews.com

Military field hospitals heading to New York City and Seattle this week to fight coronavirus

The U.S. Navy is helping ease the burden on overwhelmed civilian hospitals by agreeing to take patients who do not have the COVID-19 virus causing havoc around the globe.

www.washingtontimes.com

Samaritan's Purse emergency field hospital deploys to New York City

Samaritan's Purse deployed its emergency field hospital to New York City to help with coronavirus medical treatment Friday.

www.wxii12.com

Detroit:

Detroit auto show canceled, after FEMA commandeers convention center as field hospital

The Detroit auto show has been canceled, after the convention center where it was due to be held was taken over by FEMA to use as a field hospital for coronavirus patients.

www.nbcnews.com

New Orleans:

New Orleans Convention Center to be emergency field hospital

The last time the convention hall was used in an emergency was during Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

www.wwltv.com

Unfortunately, this virus has gained a big foothold in most countries, some more than others, and trying to slow it down NOW will be extremely difficult: all you have to do is look @ Italy's specific case to realize this.

 

[moproblems99]

Unfortunately, most of the world didn't consider China resorting to building TWO MASSIVE HOSPITALS in under TWO WEEKS as a serious enough warning and now we're all paying the price for that

Part of the problem is no one believes what China says.