EIZO Foris Nova Monitor Now Globally Available

[Vayra86]

Going from top to bottom sounds a little dramatic. Maybe put all the Word ribbons in an expandable bubble kinda like they function now by hiding.
Plz for the love of quarantine I want a not so over the top expensive OLED monitor, 1440p is very acceptable.

I feel you man... OLED Is too good to be true for us monitor fans I suppose... 'give it time' they say... meanwhile LG needs 2-3 years to bring a 55 inch to a 48 inch OLED TV.

Let's hope EIZO sets an example to follow here.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I feel you man... OLED Is too good to be true for us monitor fans I suppose... 'give it time' they say... meanwhile LG needs 2-3 years to bring a 55 inch to a 48 inch OLED TV.

Let's hope EIZO sets an example to follow here.

Doesn't the 21inch EIZO panel cost considerably more than those larger LG panels?
Also with Nvidia making the LG OLEDs Gsync compatible a smaller form may well be on the path already, hopefully not the same price path as EIZO.

 

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Going from top to bottom sounds a little dramatic. Maybe put all the Word ribbons in an expandable bubble kinda like they function now by hiding.
Plz for the love of quarantine I want a not so over the top expensive OLED monitor, 1440p is very acceptable.

You can (auto)hide toolbars and menus, but that still leaves the window decorations. OLED is just making its way into mainstream(ish) TVs, I think monitors will take a little longer. Unless Quantum Dot becomes affordable all of a sudden, then you can forget about OLED

 

[londiste]

Unless Quantum Dot becomes affordable all of a sudden, then you can forget about OLED

What exactly do you mean by quantum dot? Quantum dots are not that expensive. FALD is and getting FALD to work well in a monitor seems to be a tricky prospect as well. FALD is what makes better contrast work.

 

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What exactly do you mean by quantum dot? Quantum dots are not that expensive. FALD is and getting FALD to work well in a monitor seems to be a tricky prospect as well. FALD is what makes better contrast work.

I mean the second method described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot#Quantum_dot_displays
It's basically OLED, but without the organic part.

 

[Vayra86]

I mean the second method described here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_dot#Quantum_dot_displays
It's basically OLED, but without the organic part.

I think this one describes it better. And also the hurdles

Active-matrix light-emitting diodes
See also: AMOLED, MicroLED, and LED display

AMQLED displays will use electroluminescent QD nanoparticles functioning as Quantum-dot-based LEDs (QD-LEDs or QLEDs) arranged in an active matrix array. Rather than requiring a separate LED backlight for illumination and TFT LCD to control the brightness of color primaries, these QLED displays would natively control the light emitted by individual color subpixels,[49] greatly reducing pixel response times by eliminating the liquid crystal layer. This technology has also been called true QLED display,[50] and Electroluminescent quantum dots (ELQD, QDLE, EL-QLED)[51][52]
The structure of a QD-LED is similar to the basic design of an OLED. The major difference is that the light emitting devices are quantum dots, such as cadmium selenide (CdSe) nanocrystals. A layer of quantum dots is sandwiched between layers of electron-transporting and hole-transporting organic materials. An applied electric field causes electrons and holes to move into the quantum dot layer, where they are captured in the quantum dot and recombine, emitting photons.[13][53] The demonstrated color gamut from QD-LEDs exceeds the performance of both LCD and OLED display technologies.[54]
Mass production of active-matrix QLED displays using ink-jet printing is expected to begin in 2020-2021.[55][56][57][35][36] InP ink-jet solutions are being researched by Nanosys, Nanoco, Nanophotonica, OSRAM OLED, Fraunhofer IAP, and Seoul National University, among others.[34][58][59] As of 2019, InP based materials are still not yet ready for commercial production due to limited lifetime.[60]


Limited lifetime, and with AMOLED we saw color problems and visible deterioration within as little as two years of frequent use...
Meanwhile, MicroLED is suffering from tremendous yield issues, and quite simply, can't be done small enough.
Samsung is trying a lot of things but still haven't got much.

 

[londiste]

There have only been small test samples of emissive QD displays. It is not a technology viable for manufacture, at least not today or the short term.
Micro-LED is closer to becoming a real competitor to OLED.

QD is a thing and has various applications but in terms of monitors or TVs today, there is a lot of hype-generation by Samsung about QD that is simply hype.
- QD used in LED-LCD panels (in color filters) is a viable and used technology today, Samsung calls them QLED, IIRC LG called this Nanocell.
- QD as backlight-modulating layer for both LCD as well as - notably - OLED is being worked on. A layer with QD filtering blue backlight to red/green (which is very efficient with QD). ET is unknown but 1-digit amount of years is likely.
- QD as emissive pixels does work and Samsung and others have small test panels to show it off. It has a plethora of problems and will not be here any time soon.

 

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I think this one describes it better. And also the hurdles

Active-matrix light-emitting diodes
See also: AMOLED, MicroLED, and LED display

AMQLED displays will use electroluminescent QD nanoparticles functioning as Quantum-dot-based LEDs (QD-LEDs or QLEDs) arranged in an active matrix array. Rather than requiring a separate LED backlight for illumination and TFT LCD to control the brightness of color primaries, these QLED displays would natively control the light emitted by individual color subpixels,[49] greatly reducing pixel response times by eliminating the liquid crystal layer. This technology has also been called true QLED display,[50] and Electroluminescent quantum dots (ELQD, QDLE, EL-QLED)[51][52]
The structure of a QD-LED is similar to the basic design of an OLED. The major difference is that the light emitting devices are quantum dots, such as cadmium selenide (CdSe) nanocrystals. A layer of quantum dots is sandwiched between layers of electron-transporting and hole-transporting organic materials. An applied electric field causes electrons and holes to move into the quantum dot layer, where they are captured in the quantum dot and recombine, emitting photons.[13][53] The demonstrated color gamut from QD-LEDs exceeds the performance of both LCD and OLED display technologies.[54]
Mass production of active-matrix QLED displays using ink-jet printing is expected to begin in 2020-2021.[55][56][57][35][36] InP ink-jet solutions are being researched by Nanosys, Nanoco, Nanophotonica, OSRAM OLED, Fraunhofer IAP, and Seoul National University, among others.[34][58][59] As of 2019, InP based materials are still not yet ready for commercial production due to limited lifetime.[60]


Limited lifetime, and with AMOLED we saw color problems and visible deterioration within as little as two years of frequent use...
Meanwhile, MicroLED is suffering from tremendous yield issues, and quite simply, can't be done small enough.
Samsung is trying a lot of things but still haven't got much.

Exactly.
And now back to my original statement: until someone figures out how to put OLED on a monitor, someone else might figure out how to make cheap QD screens. Not very likely, but not impossible either. Both techs need a breakthrough, I can't predict which one will come first.

 

[londiste]

And now back to my original statement: until someone figures out how to put OLED on a monitor, someone else might figure out how to make cheap QD screens. Not very likely, but not impossible either. Both techs need a breakthrough, I can't predict which one will come first.

OLED in a monitor is simple. Samsung can make one, so can LG. However, J-OLED is where these 21" monitor panels are coming from. Pretty sure both cost and burn-in issues are the problem.

The most viable potential source would have to be LG at this point. 55" LG WOLED "monitors" based on their TV panel are out or coming (Alienware AW5520HF, Predator CG552K, ViewSonic Elite XG550), no doubt 48" panel will make that progress faster.

At this point, WOLED seems to be the best bet for monitors, too. It is based on white OLED pixel grid with color filters in front of it. This eliminates a big image retention/burn-in issue RGB-OLED panels (including AMOLED) have - different sub-pixel aging speed.

Edit:
Not related specifically to OLED but high-end monitors are currently a problem. 1440p 120+Hz monitors are good enough for now but 2160p high-frequency monitors are still waiting for HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.0 being adopted widely enough (next gen GPUs in PC space, hopefully). It simply isn't worth doing a monitor without one of those at this point.