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I sense Mr. Scott is nearby.

He's just about the epitome of vintage hardware. Much respect to Mr. Scott.

Even though I've gone head-to-head with his Bori friend teammate many a time.

Oh yeah! I've been benching ..talkin' 'bout.."I'm a get that Puerto-Rican this time, he's going down! He's got go!"

:laugh:

Did not always beat him, either. The bar has been set high. You better come strong!
 
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Is this the guy that bought those those 2 mobos from me?

I had a couple p45 DQ6s, one of the most heavy-duty boards ever made.

The engineering is a spectacle to behold!
 
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You into pin-straightening? Have I got something for you! :roll:

I never managed to bend a 775 pin, they're pretty tough.

Later platforms, probably have a few around here. OC Formula comes to mind.
 
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I sense Mr. Scott is nearby.

He's just about the epitome of vintage hardware. Much respect to Mr. Scott.

Even though I've gone head-to-head with his Bori friend teammate many a time.

Oh yeah! I've been benching ..talkin' 'bout.."I'm a get that Puerto-Rican this time, he's going down! He's got go!"

:laugh:

Did not always beat him, either. The bar has been set high. You better come strong!
Long time no see Schmuckles. :)
You retired or what?
 
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I had a Voodoo card in like ..1998.

It was needed to play "You no mess with Lo Wang".

My comp was an AST 5x86 and I "upgraded" the CPU to 133Mhz Cyrix.
The sink was necessary. Burned my finger firing it up without the sink.

No Ceramique2 in them days.

I never owned a 3dfx card when they were available. I was a "filthy" peasant back then. No high end PCs for me until 2011. Even my daily driver is kind of "collectible" now. ASUS MAXIMUS IV Extreme-Z and a 2600K @ 4.4GHz. My MSI 580 GTX Lightning is sitting in its box and a 1070 GTX is still doing nicely @ FHD. I never ever thought that my 2600K will hold so many years.

Shaddow Warrior and his corny humor! I only had the shareware version and I didn't get to play it. :D

I threw away a ..what's that company that went out of business with the lifetime guarantee? 9800GT
A hot air reflow would have fixed that. I baked it 2x..lol!
BFG! That's the name of the company.

BFG for life! :roll:

Or until they disappear.

Yeah Good Ol' BFG - :D Never had one but I liked reading about them.

Is this the guy that bought those those 2 mobos from me?

I had a couple p45 DQ6s, one of the most heavy-duty boards ever made.

The engineering is a spectacle to behold!

I absolutely love the Gigabyte P35, X38, P45, X48 and X58 high end motherboards. They speak my language: "You no mess wit me!" :D

You into pin-straightening? Have I got something for you! :roll:

I never managed to bend a 775 pin, they're pretty tough.

Later platforms, probably have a few around here. OC Formula comes to mind.

Pin straightening is serious business and I find it pretty relaxing. :D One tiny slip and you might bend other pins. I remember the first time when I had to hold my hand with the other so high was the tension. I couldn't approach the socket with my fine twezeers that's how my hand shook. :D
 
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Scorpions - Always Somewhere

3dfx! Gainward DRAGON 4000! VOODOO! BANSHEEE!!! - half cocked ...

I wasn't planning to post this episode so soon, but truth be told I don't have anything else prepared at the moment, so ... , this is it folks! :D

While I was editing the pictures for this episode I suddenly became aware of a fact that was blatantly obvious by the way ... It's been a while since I was over the moon about a 3dfx card ... 5 years since all this "madness" has started is quite a lot. Getting OLDER SUX BIG TIME! There's still fire inside me but the thing I miss the most is TIME! My ally and my enemy! TIME IS EVERYTHING!

I'm still free of many chains still waiting to hold me but that doesn't mean that I don't feel them against my skin ...

I still get sucked into my work and 4 hours later I wonder at how fast time has gone by even if I ENJOY EVERY GOD DAMN SECOND OF IT! For me it is a form a travelling into the past and also into the future.

Time is unforgiving ...

A few moons ago I was at my "eternal" hunting ground, the good ol' flea market.

What did I see on a dirty bed sheet? An unmistakable heatsink! Send me an angel - Scorpions

The NLX format and the green heatsink have caught my eye! Gainward Dragon 4000 3dfx Voodoo Banshee! ICUVGA-GW816D

The crude writing "WOODOO BANSHEE 16MB", made all easier for me even if I didn't appreciate the slight error made with a fine point marker.

A WOODOO is still a 3dfx no matter what!

I paid a trivial sum of money and the card was trapped into my hungry hands. MINE ALL MINE JUST MINE!!! After months and months this 3dfx card was like a rain from above that fell onto the thirsty savannah. There is nothing like finding a 3dfx a card that has "a value" that only you know ... a value which by the way is relative, monetary or otherwise ... but a 3dfx is still a 3dfx ... they don't make them anymore ...

Don't you want the other cards? ATI RAGE IIC and a card that I don't remember anymore ... unfortunately no, thank you very much ... jus this WOODOO card ...



Looking sorry for itself but I knew I had a gem in front of me ... come my sweet and rest, your ordeals are over, fear no more, I'll treat you right ...

Battle scars all over the place ... and a missing bracket ...



Taking into consideration the dirt and the rust present on the card I had no restraint in washing the card with plenty of water and Fairy Lemon dish soap. Then came a few rounds of IPA 99%, cotton sticks and polishing paste ... I think you know the drill by now ... all of the restoring procedures were done in a gentle manner.

At the end of the restoring procedures I took out of a box my other GWD 4000 but why did a SiS card enjoy such a select crowd?

You see, the only bracket that would fit the WOODOO card was the one present on the SiS 6326. With a tight heart I removed the bracket and I put it on the 3dfx card but not before I promised, the SiS card that on the first occasion I get I will return the all important bracket.



Shining like diamond in the goat's a$$! I didn't replace the "damaged" capacitor as I wanted to preserve the "character" of the card. I must underline that I didn't test the card before I cleaned it. I just feel when a card is alive or dead or should I say I just want and think they are all alive and kicking and I just postpone the moment of truth ... well, words are just words ...

I didn't have anything suitable to cover the scratched traces on the back. Even so I still felt I had a winner in my hand ... How? I just felt it ...



Two is a crowd ... or is it? Well, I'll just let the pictures speak for themselves ... Guns N' Roses - November Rain



Looking at my first GWD 4000 I wondered why I didn't remove that ALS 1999 sticker. Now I know why I left in place. A testimony of times gone by, 20 years of it ...

And here we are at the end of this short story. Was the WOODOO still alive? For sure the TY-140 with its awesome cooling powah was to be blamed ... :D



Why call this episode half cocked? Because it is in a way somewhat unfinished.

I searched locally for for some green solder mask to cover those exposed traces on the back but I didn't find anything. The online searches have returned only some green markers so I put this "problem" on the back burner for now.

When I'll find what I need I'll revisit this moment.

Cya next time with "meatier" episodes. :D Guns N' Roses - Don't Cry

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More later.
 
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I also already have two major recap projects to do. We are talking about two motherboards. A sk A that I bought two years ago and a K7 Pro. Both are considered dead now but maybe I will be able to resurrect them. We'll see. :D

As always I'll post everything here. :)
 

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How have I missed these updates??!! Amazing as always @Robert B !! :D :D :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:
 
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Pryda ~ Loving You (Original Mix)

Leadtek WinFast A350XT TDH - GeForce FX 5900XT - 128 MB Rev D1

Finally I get to post something after a long time! :)

I managed to finish almost all of the ongoing projects that have been started a couple of months ago or so.

I have only one card left to restore but this one is something special that requires more attention and effort so I left it last.

Starting this year, the good stuff has been quite scarce at the flea market but I was still able to get my hands on some nice pieces. "My guardian angel" aka my main retro HW supplier, took care of me and he also "sent me" a few heavy parts so that I won't go into withdrawal. All in all expect at least 7 episodes over the following weeks!

Let's get on with the show!

Where was I? Aaaa Good Ol' LEADTEK!

I loved Leadtek cards. Together with Gainward they were at the top of my preferences. I used to day dream reading about high end cards featured in reviews. Too expensive, was the word of the day...

My first Leadtek card was a 6600GT AGP but I didn't get the satisfaction that I expected. The cooling fan was absolute crap and it seized a couple of times even if I took care of it by keeping it clean and oiled. In the end it died in a session of Test Drive Unlimited after I sold it to my cousins. For sure, the fan seized again and it overheated. Bye bye solder balls ...

Even so, I still love Leadtek cards and I buy them every time I get the chance.

I found the card featured in this episode at the local flea market.

It looked mint and I was quick to snatch it. MINE!



Because the card looked very well, before I was to restore it, I decided to see if she's still alive and kicking. I just cleaned the cooling fan a bit and I removed the dust from the card. I plugged into my test rig and I pressed the POWER button.

All was OK!



Satisfied with the results of the tests I started the restoration procedures.

Initial state.



Some time later. The metal parts didn't need polishing and they were just washed with water and Fairy Lemon dish soap then they were dried using an air compressor. The results have surpassed my expectations.



Ever since I got the card, I saw that the heatsink was very well held by a pink silicone thermal pad. In the past, when I was faced with something like this, I heated up the heatsink and by gently twisting it I was able to remove it without damage. The leftover traces of thermal pad were cleaned using a tiny amount of acetone and some IPA 99%. In this instance I decided to keep it simple and I left the heatsink in place as the card didn't go above 53C during testing.

The adherent grime on the back of the card wasn't fazed by IPA 99% so I also washed the card with hot water and Fairy Lemon dish soap, then I dried it using an air compressor.

Next, followed more IPA 99% washes until I got the results I wanted.

Even if the heatsink remained on the board that doesn't mean that I didn't pay attention to detail. A few fins from the heatsink were out of their position and they were quickly put back in line.



Results.



During testing one fact became quite obvious. The ball bearing from the cooling fan was way past its prime. The rumble was present albeit it wasn't too loud.

That meant one thing. Tear it up and pack it up with fresh grease. Even if I was able to remove the dust cover with minimal damage, when I had to put it back, because I wasn't able to remove the ball bearing from the fan casing, it deformed a little. I left it like that but I checked to see that it didn't rub against the bearing balls. I had try two types of grease until I was able to make the ball bearing silent. After I packed the ball bearing with fresh grease I assembled the fan and I let it run for a couple of minutes. Then I took the fan apart again and I removed the excess grease.

When I was done with the cooling fan, I spun it into my hand and I was still able to feel the "wear" of the ball bearing but with fresh grease I prolonged its life.

Why all this effort? There is no replacement for the original. I could've mounted another cooler but the card would've lost its identity.

The fact that the card is not only clean but also silent is for me a big plus.



Perfect!



Final results!



In a sea of FX 5200, FX 5500 and some times FX 5600 or FX 5700 cards, FX 5800 or FX 5900 cards represent something out of the ordinary.

If you find one buy it in a blink of an eye. They don't pop up very often.

I miss the old Leadtek but I also know that things can't be like in the past so I embrace the future with an open heart. :)

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More later.
 
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Great post!
...gosh, the things You find :D:D:D
 
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Wow, such careful attention to detail is very impressive and so rewarding.
I have a Leadtek WinFast A400 6800GT, but the 3D output no longer works, yet it was an amazingly well built card in its day.
 
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When I saw the 5900XT my eyes popped out! Come to DADDY! :D

More awesome pieces wait for their story to be told!

If you liked the post wait until I finish this! :D

It will be taken apart entirely, heatsink, thermal glue, the works! This puppy can't be restored with the heatsink in place. I also need new thermal pads as the old ones are done. Also I must address the issues of the good ol' coil noise which in this instance is the worst I've had with old HW. :D I have a battle plan ready but I don't know if I will get the results I hope. We'll see. I plan to inject with a syringe some electronics laquer into those noisy coils ... or I might try something else ...

I'll post details galore have no worries. :D
 

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I'm still so damn jealous about those FX cards dammit! :)
 

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Don't worry Chloe Price, I'm sure you will find ca couple of them some time into the future. :) It took me a while to get the FX 5900XT and the FX 5800 but they literally came out of nowhere. :)

In other turn of events, sneak peek of the next episode. :D

Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies

A bleeding chipset???!!! This can't be good ...



More later. :D
Your the hardware God.. If anyone can fix it, clean it and make it look and run like new, it's you @Robert B :D Total love and respect for this thread :D
 
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Goddard - Drumble

A Slot A motherboard in DISTRESS!!! MSI K7 PRO Ver:1 - MS-6195

This episode had all of the requirements to be a great one. Unfortunately, as the saying goes, you mustn't count your chickens before they hatch.

My Good Ol' HW supplier has done it again and thanks to him I soon held in my hands this glorious Slot A motherboard. At that moment I was thinking that I've scored again ...

The motherboard arrived untested as the seller didn't have a suitable CPU to power it up. Before I decided to make it mine, from the pictures, I already spotted a few problems: swollen capacitors and the elephant in the room aka the mismatched NB heatsink.

As Slot A motherboards rank high on my wish list, I wasn't put off by a few bad caps and a heatsink. So, said and done, it was mine with all her problems. There was no turning back. Besides, I was to pay for it after I tested it. All in all it was a good deal.

Upon arrival, I conducted a thorough inspection and I came to the conclusion that 13 caps will have to be replaced. All of them were branded CHHSI, an old acquaintance from the Bad Caps Era. As the bulk of these caps wasn't in vital areas, I decided that it was safe to test the motherboard as is. Another factor that contributed to this decision was that the other caps were from reputable brands: SANYO, United Chemi-Con and PANASONIC.



Before I powered it up I wanted to see what's under the NB heatsink. As expected, underneath, the thermal paste was hard and almost non-existent. I addressed this matter and I soon put together a test system. I used a 650MHz CPU, some RAM, a video card, an Enermax 465W PSU and then I pressed the POWER button.



I expected a happy BEEP but all was silent like the grave. Hmmmmm ...

This can't be good ...

I tried just a about everything I could but I wasn't able to make the board beep let alone POST. It powered up by itself as soon as it was connected at the mains. In search of a solution I read the manual many times but to no avail. NADA! ZILCH! NOTHING!

As a feature, the motherboard has a group of four leds called D-LED or Diagnostic Led. "The mainboard provides a Special Diagnostic LED for users to be aware of their mainboard conditions. The LED helps user determine the problem of the mainboard." To the experienced users this feature isn't a must but in this instance it was useful.

No matter what I tried I got the same error: 3 GREEN and 1 RED leds! aka Early Chipset Initialization aka Boot Attempt, straight on power up, without cycling through other color combinations.

Stuck!



I checked again the manual and the only thing I found was: *** aka Check with local vendor for possible internal motherboard problem. I wish that I didn't read that, I said to myself.

Hoping that something will change, I installed another CPU, a 500MHz Athlon. RESISTANCE IF FUTILE! Nothing happened.



I installed my cheap PCI debug card and I got an error message that reminded of the Gigabyte GA-8TM aka THE FLOP. Yeah ... I remember that one ... it was a doozy!

Good Ol' control to int 19h boot loader error message. I can't say that I am fond of this one.



I already felt that this board was a goner. Dead NB? Hmmm ... it can't be ...

In spite of all of these facts I still clinged on my last hope of recovering this relic of times gone by. Changing the swollen caps.

The CHHSI RB, HS and HK caps were to be replaced with whatever I had available at that time, Nichicon PW, Samxon GT and Aishi WH caps. The Aishi Wh caps were a stop-gap solution and I planned to swap them later with something better. In the end, as three Nichicon PW 1000uf caps were too tall and they were near the AGP slot, I replaced them with three Rubycon YXF even if the latter were wider. 1cm vs 0.8cm.



Some time later I was ready to try again. Unfortunately even from the get go, I got the same error: 3 Green and 1 Red leds. &^$#&^&*#!!!!!!

I tried to start the motherboard with and without a CPU, with and without RAM, with and without a graphic card, with and without a BIOS chip, with and without a CMOS battery, clear CMOS, BIOS update, many BIOS versions, another BIOS chip ... the works. All was for nothing! The CPU got warm, the NB chip got warm, the SB had a normal temperature, the jumpers were ok ... NO BEEP(s) and NO POST.

Because according to the error reported by the D-LED, the board was stuck at Boot Attempt I also installed a HDD, FDD and ODD. Still no change!

Because at power up the led of the FDD was on, I also put a BIOS image on a floppy disk and I tried again even if I updated the BIOS with my MiniPRO TL866A programmer.

You guessed it! Nothing worked!

I also removed another PLCC chip that had a sticker with MSIG 1.0 on it. I was able to read the contents of the chip with my MiniPro TL866A but this brought nothing new. The file recovered was small and it contained just "0"s and "1"s. I powered up the board with and without this chip installed. Nothing changed.

I scoured the Internet in search of information regarding this MSIG 1.0 but I got nothing to help me. I wanted to edit the contents of this chip but because I didn't know its purpose I didn't do anything.

GREAT! &$#@(^*%^#!$#!!!!!



The road to greatness is paved with good challenges not to be mistaken for intentions or it was something along these lines ... &*($#&^*(#$#!!! :D I WAS QUITE PISSED to say the least. This seemed an easy job. Get in. Get out. Take the prize and live to tell the tale ...

Well, it was fun while it lasted, so, I prepared the board for cleaning. Just a show piece, nothing more. RIP.

In spite of everything, while I cleaned the motherboard one thought kept creeping inside my mind. What if the other caps are bad? (It seems that I didn't learn anything from the Gigabyte GA-8TM story. In that instance I changed almost all of the caps and all was for nothing too. That was my first experience with the int 19h ... )



After I washed the K7 PRO and I dried it using my air compressor, I placed it for a few minutes under the sun to let some of the leftover alcohol that might be trapped under some chips, evaporate.

A few minutes later I checked the board.

BEHOLD! THE SMOKING GUN! YEP dead NB!



Even if I dried the board using an air compressor, some of the IPA 99% that got inside the NB chip, oozed out. I wiped the alcohol that came from that tiny crack, twice, a clear sign that this mobo don't work no more ...

Looking back, the NB missing it original heatsink should've given me food for thought. When I changed the TIM on the NB chip, that tiny "scratch" didn't alarm me as it looked to be on the surface. I knew that the board wasn't handled with silk gloves. Deep scratches on the CPU locking arms, on the PCI slots and a few superficial ones on the back. Bent pins from the Front Panel connector, etc.



The SB chip is in good shape ... but this doesn't matter ...



Embalmed for posterity ...



gallery: https://postimg.cc/gallery/w3wStzb

More later.
 
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After all that you tried might as well of swapped the northbridge chipset from a dead board. Would require a bit of expertise with BGA re-soldering though.
 
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