AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Torpedoes Intel's Core i9 Mobile Lineup, Fastest Mobile Processor

[TheLostSwede]

Asus surely cut some corners to get to that price point, CPU and GPU are two big exceptions.

Slow display, no camera, weird, pulsing fans, single slot RAM. The design is great tho.

It has 8 or 16GB soldered down, plus a slot, so it's not single channel.
As for the camera, it's an "up-sell" to this:

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USB web camera with Full HD 1080p streaming at 60fps, Face AE technology, beamforming microphone for better live-streaming video and audio quality, and a compact and foldable design that mounts easily and securely on laptops.

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[R0H1T]

Huh, what a scam probably costs much as like their overpriced routers

 

[Vya Domus]

Not instruction sets. 4 additional cores, AVX2 and 7nm.

The number of cores and instructions are the same. Zen 2 simply has twice the FP throughput because the vector FPUs have been doubled in width.

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

The vast majority of buyers will still aim for intel and Nvidia.

 

[Imsochobo]

Huh, what a scam probably costs much as like their overpriced routers

somehow 1400 $, 1920x1080 120 HZ, 4900HS, RTX 2060 max-q, 1tb 660p, 16gb ram, wifi6.. (not sure on the battery)
but.. yeah... you probably pay a bit more with the best battery but it's nearly the same as a router.


Also: repeating summarized things as we're on a new page so people can read this hopefully..
It is zen2,
it has 8mb total L3 vs 32mb on desktop
no pci-e 4.0
it has no chipset, it is a SOC (ALL INCLUDED!!!!)
it is 35 W not 45W.
it is using turbo of 60 W~ before going to 35 W for steady state. (intel uses turbo like this too)

 

[TheLostSwede]

More review links.

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[ARF]

The vast majority of buyers will still aim for intel and Nvidia.

There is really little to no sense whatsoever to do so.

The right path is AMD Ryzen + AMD Radeon..

It has 8 or 16GB soldered down, plus a slot, so it's not single channel.
As for the camera, it's an "up-sell" to this:

ROG Eye | Gaming Streaming Kits｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global

USB web camera with Full HD 1080p streaming at 60fps, Face AE technology, beamforming microphone for better live-streaming video and audio quality, and a compact and foldable design that mounts easily and securely on laptops.

www.asus.com

Configuration 8 GB soldered + 16 GB on the slot, 24 GB - will it be single or dual channel because of the different capacities?

 

[Rahnak]

somehow 1400 $, 1920x1080 120 HZ, 4900HS, RTX 2060 max-q, 1tb 660p, 16gb ram, wifi6.. (not sure on the battery)
but.. yeah... you probably pay a bit more with the best battery but it's nearly the same as a router.

R0H1T was talking about the ROG Eye webcam, not the laptop.

 

[ARF]

AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS vs Intel 5.3 GHz Core i9-10980HK:

 

[SL2]

It has 8 or 16GB soldered down, plus a slot, so it's not single channel.

I didn't say it was. The reviews clearly shows that it's only one slot.

 

[ARF]

 

[R0H1T]

R0H1T was talking about the ROG Eye webcam, not the laptop.

Yes, but I guess not everyone needs a webcam on their laptop like ~ well me. I barely use it though that's largely due to the sub 720p resolution & basically no practical use.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I didn't say it was. The reviews clearly shows that it's only one slot.
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Those timings though...

 

[ARF]

Those timings though...

Low-end, cheap memory modules.

 

[IceShroom]

Those timings though...

Standard JEDEC timing.

 

[EarthDog]

Standard JEDEC timing.

Yep... that new 3200 MHz spec that came out last year... ick...

 

[ARF]

Normally, the modules are CAS16 DDR4-3200, and most of the available sticks on the market are such..

 

[John Naylor]

Won't pay attention to performance benchmarks that have no relevance to application performance. As with 3900x vs 9900KF, far more often that not, application performance on apps most folks use every day see no benefit from these "press release" performance benchmarks.

Does anyone sit around waiting to choose a CPU until 7-Zip performance benchmarks come out ? Why No Premier, PhotoShop, AutoCAD, office Suoites , gaming ? 3900x reportedly kicked 9900k to the cub and yet the 9900KF won in gaming, traded insignificant wins in Office apps, won in Photoshop and Premier and most important, won in our primary app AutoCAD. Now certainly if our big apps were the ones that the 3900X excelled in like brain simulation, 7-Zip, virtual machines and game develpment, rendering / animation.... the 3900X is the obvious
of course better choice ... but anyone who chooses a CPU on the bases of performance benchmarks in apps they don't use on a frequent basis isn't doing it right.

 

[SL2]

Those timings though...

Yeah, call me old school but I prefer dual slots.

 

[ARF]

Won't pay attention to performance benchmarks that have no relevance to application performance. As with 3900x vs 9900KF, far more often that not, application performance on apps most folks use every day see no benefit from these "press release" performance benchmarks.

Does anyone sit around waiting to choose a CPU until 7-Zip performance benchmarks come out ? Why No Premier, PhotoShop, AutoCAD, office Suoites , gaming ? 3900x reportedly kicked 9900k to the cub and yet the 9900KF won in gaming, traded insignificant wins in Office apps, won in Photoshop and Premier and most important, won in our primary app AutoCAD. Now certainly if our big apps were the ones that the 3900X excelled in like brain simulation, 7-Zip, virtual machines and game develpment, rendering / animation.... the 3900X is the obvious
of course better choice ... but anyone who chooses a CPU on the bases of performance benchmarks in apps they don't use on a frequent basis isn't doing it right.

Here:

Here:

Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 – Ryzen 9 4900HS och Geforce RTX 2060 Max-Q - Test - Prestandatester

Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 är en kompakt bärbar speldator, som med AMD "Renoir" utlovar världsledande prestanda i sin storleksklass.

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[Darmok N Jalad]

I didn't say it was. The reviews clearly shows that it's only one slot.
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What an odd configuration. I’d think they’d either go all soldered or all slot. Usually one slot sits under the keyboard, but not this one.

 

[SL2]

Won't pay attention to performance benchmarks that have no relevance to application performance. As with 3900x vs 9900KF, far more often that not, application performance on apps most folks use every day see no benefit from these "press release" performance benchmarks.

Does anyone sit around waiting to choose a CPU until 7-Zip performance benchmarks come out ? Why No Premier, PhotoShop, AutoCAD, office Suoites , gaming ? 3900x reportedly kicked 9900k to the cub and yet the 9900KF won in gaming, traded insignificant wins in Office apps, won in Photoshop and Premier and most important, won in our primary app AutoCAD. Now certainly if our big apps were the ones that the 3900X excelled in like brain simulation, 7-Zip, virtual machines and game develpment, rendering / animation.... the 3900X is the obvious
of course better choice ... but anyone who chooses a CPU on the bases of performance benchmarks in apps they don't use on a frequent basis isn't doing it right.

That was a bit different situation. The 3900X is faster thanks to having 8 more threads, and the 9900KF is faster because of higher clock speeds, lower latency.

This time around they have the same amount of threads, and Intel can't use their hot running Mhz advantage because it's mobile. At 35 W, that is.

The GE65 and the Aero 15 are both >2.2 kg, the G14 is 1.6 kg.

Everyone excited but MSI will come and say

Excuse us, guys, but we don't work with AMD APUs.

I'm not so sure about that.

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[Totally]

Imagine when this chip makes it into a less constrained chassis, 'tiger with wings' anyone?

 

[B-Real]

Battery life among all reviews :

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This with the given performance. It is incredible, really.

Won't pay attention to performance benchmarks that have no relevance to application performance. As with 3900x vs 9900KF, far more often that not, application performance on apps most folks use every day see no benefit from these "press release" performance benchmarks.

Does anyone sit around waiting to choose a CPU until 7-Zip performance benchmarks come out ? Why No Premier, PhotoShop, AutoCAD, office Suoites , gaming ? 3900x reportedly kicked 9900k to the cub and yet the 9900KF won in gaming, traded insignificant wins in Office apps, won in Photoshop and Premier and most important, won in our primary app AutoCAD. Now certainly if our big apps were the ones that the 3900X excelled in like brain simulation, 7-Zip, virtual machines and game develpment, rendering / animation.... the 3900X is the obvious
of course better choice ... but anyone who chooses a CPU on the bases of performance benchmarks in apps they don't use on a frequent basis isn't doing it right.

This CPU just crushes the top Intel mobile CPUs and you are still ranting.

 

[Cheeseball]

No webcam? The CPU can become hot?!

Why did they make this 14" and how will you game on it? Using a proper monitor?

Just wow!

An integrated webcam would be useless when a streamer/collaborator would just use a higher-quality USB 3.0 device that you can freely position.

14" is a good portable size. I've been waiting for more powerful, compact solutions, similar to the Razer Blade Stealth with a GTX 1650.

The panel in this is a 144 Hz IPS, albeit slower response time. May not be used for competition, but it's still manageable for on-the-road gaming.

That was a bit different situation. The 3900X is faster thanks to having 8 more threads, and the 9900KF is faster because of higher clock speeds, lower latency.

This time around they have the same amount of threads, and Intel can't use their hot running Mhz advantage because it's mobile. At 35 W, that is.

The GE65 and the Aero 15 are both >2.2 kg, the G14 is 1.6 kg.

Looks like that Gigabyte Aero 15 is throttled badly. The GE65 does have good thermals (similar to the Acer Predator Helios 300 with the same specs) from what I've read about it.