Intel 10th Gen Core "Comet Lake-H" Mobile Processor Lineup with Desktop-class Performance Announced: 5.3 GHz, 8 Cores, 16 Threads

[bencrutz]

1 second one core and limited power and 115C temps with in one microsecond with 4 external 360radiators and two strong pumps.. Freaking joke seriously.

and at 135W (PL2)

So IIRC TVB requires CPU temperatures to be below 65C. Anyone care to bet how long a chip like this will stay below 65C while under a heavy single-core load in a laptop? I'm guessing the answer is a very, very short time.

IIRC tom's hardware article mentioned below 50°C

 

[prtskg]

The most unfortunate thing here is that, we will see more laptops with these processors than Renoir. At higher prices than the Renoir models, offering lower performance and probably battery life. And people will prefer to buy these models than those with AMD inside.

Intel is big. People say bigger is better. So they think intel inside will be more pleasurable.

 

[Steevo]

Clearly they are not milking the same custommer with 100Mhz, it is a new born fresh custommer that is just building a system. Almost nobody is replacing a perfectly good cpu just for the 100Mhz bump. Where are those preposterous claims coming from. AMd are not using 7nm. it is 7nm-ish(10-11nm), and we haven't seen 5nm yet, could be in 1 year, could just fail to launch. Given the choice between 5nm-ish, and 7nm Intel that is back on track for 2021, I prefer to wait another year, I upgrade once every decade so it would be worth it.

What are your thoughts on AMD having 30% better performance with 20% less power consumption?

 

[Valantar]

Clearly they are not milking the same custommer with 100Mhz, it is a new born fresh custommer that is just building a system. Almost nobody is replacing a perfectly good cpu just for the 100Mhz bump. Where are those preposterous claims coming from. AMd are not using 7nm. it is 7nm-ish(10-11nm), and we haven't seen 5nm yet, could be in 1 year, could just fail to launch. Given the choice between 5nm-ish, and 7nm Intel that is back on track for 2021, I prefer to wait another year, I upgrade once every decade so it would be worth it.

5nm will arrive with the next generation of iPhone SoCs, which means that if it isn't already in volume production it will be in the next couple of months. Lead times for mass production of major components before a product launch are at least 6 months. Should be entirely ready for when AMD needs it.

Versus a 3 years old pc

Intel is cnn of marketing.

Well, in a vacuum it's a good comparison, as that's likely what many are upgrading from - "this is how much of a performance increase your upgrade gets you compared to what you have today". In other words that was relevant before Ryzen arrived. Now ... not so much, no. Now I just keep getting the mental image of Intel as a small person standing in front of a huge Ryzen poster, desperately trying to cover it with their body while shouting "Don't look here, look over there!"

IIRC tom's hardware article mentioned below 50°C

...so, never, then? Last I checked most laptops idle around that (if not higher) and run at ~100C when under load.

 

[KarymidoN]

Intel Details 10th Gen Comet Lake-H for 45 W Notebooks: Up to 5.3 GHz*

www.anandtech.com

Holy shit :

135W in order to hit the 2 core maximum boost clocks in a laptop. What are they even doing at this point ?

What the actual f***

 

[yotano211]

I'm fine with a 8750h and 1070 on the current laptop. And I used to upgrade my laptop about every 1-1.5 years.

 

[Logoffon]

I'm just gonna wait for AMD Threadripper Mobile so that we can see which one is better out of the two: hot due to high Turbo clock, or hot due to having lots of cores.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

This is some of the most disingenuous marketing I have seen intel put out, just bought a 8750 and rtx2060 laptop, I will happily keep it now the new stuffs out, there is better but substantially ,no.
And their competition have better options IMHO.

 

[ARF]

Intel Details 10th Gen Comet Lake-H for 45 W Notebooks: Up to 5.3 GHz*

www.anandtech.com

Holy shit :

The base frequency of this chip is 2.4 GHz, and it has a regular 45 W TDP (sustained power), which can be run in cTDP up mode for 65 W. Two other plus points on this chip is that it is unlocked, for when an OEM provides more thermal headroom, and it supports DDR4-2933, which is an upgrade over the previous generation. Intel's recommended PL2 (turbo power) for the Core i9 is 135 W, and Intel says the recommended 'Tau' is set to 56 seconds for the i9, and 28 seconds for all the other CPUs. OEMs don't often adhere to these values for notebooks, but they are provided as a guide. It does mean that in order to hit 5.3 GHz, the Core i9 is by default allowed to take 135 W across two cores, or 67.5 W per core. Even at 60W per core, you're looking at 50A of current per core... in a laptop.

135W in order to hit the 2 core maximum boost clocks in a laptop. What are they even doing at this point ?

...

What are your thoughts on AMD having 30% better performance with 20% less power consumption?

AMD needs to release Zen 3 sooner. By doing so, the performance and power consumption advantage will become something in the lines of 50%/50%.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

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AMD needs to release Zen 3 sooner. By doing so, the performance and power consumption advantage will become something in the lines of 50%/50%.

In reality I think they're closer in use to that, a new Intel laptop in the high end lasts considerably less time on similar sized batteries than a Renoir equipped one by a significant amount.

 

[ARF]

In reality I think they're closer in use to that, a new Intel laptop in the high end lasts considerably less time on similar sized batteries than a Renoir equipped one by a significant amount.

I don't doubt it. Just gave them a bit of bonus, so that they are happier....

AMD needs to call for new class action lawsuits.

Intel promised with the settlement of the $1.25B payment to AMD that they won't do sabotage works anylonger. Well, they continue.

And they have to pay the EU $1.49B fine for breaching the anti-trust regulations.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I don't doubt it. Just gave them a bit of bonus, so that they are happier....

AMD needs to call for new class action lawsuits.

Intel promised with the settlement of the $1.25B payment to AMD that they won't do sabotage works anylonger. Well, they continue.

And they have to pay the EU $1.49B fine for breaching the anti-trust regulations.

They're still debating that fine these days in court so I think the likelihood of them giving two shits about anti trust to be zero.

 

[eidairaman1]

Welcome to thermal deficiencies in notebooks. 5.3 only in a true gaming laptop/workstation with overbuilt heatpipes and tons of fans.

 

[ARF]

Today Intel is launching the 5th rebrand of Skylake mobile called the 10-series mobile -H aka Comet Lake. SemiAccurate doesn’t see anything worth bothering with here but on with the show.

Intel launches 10-Series -H ‘Comet Lake’ mobile CPUs

Today Intel is launching the 5th rebrand of Skylake mobile called the 10-series mobile -H aka Comet Lake.

semiaccurate.com

They're still debating that fine these days in court so I think the likelihood of them giving two shits about anti trust to be zero.

Nah, the court may try to increase the fine substantially.
I was wondering if there is someone heavy and big who could get angry about Intel's policies and pushes a heavier punishment for them?
Is there such an organisation?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Intel launches 10-Series -H ‘Comet Lake’ mobile CPUs

Today Intel is launching the 5th rebrand of Skylake mobile called the 10-series mobile -H aka Comet Lake.

semiaccurate.com

Nah, the court may try to increase the fine substantially.
I was wondering if there is someone heavy and big who could get angry about Intel's policies and pushes a heavier punishment for them?
Is there such an organisation?

No one bigger than society, choose with your wallet, I want Intel to do well and up it's game, but they are not inspired to do so unless they see a financial gain, I think it's coming.
Intel will drag it through a few more court's, in reality they're not inspired to play fair anyway because 1.5 billion is absolutely f all over a 15 year period IF you made it pay, and shit knows Intel did ,if I were them I might be tempted to double down on it if anything.
And since they're claiming gaming improvement of up to 25% on last generation this generation without any notice of that being by bigger GPUs from Nvidia , seams like plan A is indeed still in effect.

 

[LTUGamer]

The 5.3 GHz performance could be reached for longer time than your expected miliseconds but in this case laptop will be heavy and thick as 10 years old Alienware

Look at Eurocom Sky X9C. They succeed to put desktop Core i9 9900KF and two RTX 2080 into one laptop. But the laptop is thick and heavy and ofcoure... expensive as fu...

 

[Valantar]

The 5.3 GHz performance could be reached for longer time than your expected miliseconds but in this case laptop will be heavy and thick as 10 years old Alienware

Look at Eurocom Sky X9C. They succeed to put desktop Core i9 9900KF and two RTX 2080 into one laptop. But the laptop is thick and heavy and ofcoure... expensive as fu...

"laptop"

 

[arya_farjand]

It's just a joke. Still I can't understand those idiots buying Intel. Maybe they need something to warm the water for shower

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Versus a 3 years old pc

Intel is cnn of marketing.

You mean VERY fake news CNN?

 

[Chrispy_]

Holy shit : 135W in order to hit the 2 core maximum boost clocks in a laptop. What are they even doing at this point ?

They're using smoke and mirrors to try and make the numbers on 2015 Skylake technology look relevant.