ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 / i7-920 - ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 570 OC 8GB able to run?

[busfahrer09]

Hello Forum

As you can probably guess from reading the title I'm kinda old with even older hardware but due to the worldwide corona lockdowns I went back into gaming - but it lags... :/

So I ordered the above mentioned GPU thinking, comparing, arguing with myself over numbers idk what they mean that the MB could MAYBE still run some newer GPUs?

How wrong am I?

Any suggestions I should rather aim for? Only thing I need are two DVIs, basically...

Thanks for reading, stay healthy and safe out there.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

My advice to you first is to get yourself some of the cheap 6 core Xeons for 1366 socket and OC on that board they easy can hit 4+Ghz and don't you worry yes your platform is still capable to "run" modern GPU's just make sure to update your bios first..........

 

[Regeneration]

RX 570 should work just fine on X58.

 

[hat]

It will be fine with a healthy OC on that 920. If you're not happy with the performance, try a cheap 6 core xeon as others have suggested.

 

[busfahrer09]

so you're both smarter than the Asus support and devs in Taiwan, that's what I needed today.

My advice to you first is to get yourself some of the cheap 6 core Xeons for 1366 socket and OC on that board they easy can hit 4+Ghz and don't you worry yes your platform is still capable to "run" modern GPU's just make sure to update your bios first..........

do you mean the CPU could be a bottleneck? or should this whole system vibe just fine? Is there any maxPerformance GPU-line you can call from the top of your head? I compared alot with this AMAZING tool on this site and paid 149€ what seems absolutely reasonable... But if I can get more out of DOOM Eternal I'd rather spend 100€ more

It will be fine with a healthy OC on that 920. If you're not happy with the performance, try a cheap 6 core xeon as others have suggested.

the asus tool I used for that is somehow not available anymore under W10 #sadface

 

[Zyll Goliat]

so you're both smarter than the Asus support and devs in Taiwan, that's what I needed today.



do you mean the CPU could be a bottleneck? or should this whole system vibe just fine? Is there any maxPerformance GPU-line you can call from the top of your head? I compared alot with this AMAZING tool on this site and paid 149€ what seems absolutely reasonable... But if I can get more out of DOOM Eternal I'd rather spend 100€ more

Well...yes for 10$-30$ you can get some of those 6c/12t Xeons they are 32nm CPU's(yours I7 920 is 45nm)they OC much better consume less power and even today when they are OC properly they are still very capable.....and yes I know what I am talking I own X58 before those"Westmere" Xeons are awesome CPU's......And don't you worry yours Asus P6t Deluxe with updated bios should work just fine with Xeons....

 

[Regeneration]

X58 was HEDT (high-end desktop) platform, there are people still using it on this forum. As Zyll Goliath suggested, you should upgrade the i7-920 to a cheap sixcore W3680 / X5680 from eBay.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

X58 was HDET (high-end desktop) platform, there are people still using it on this forum. As Zyll Goliath suggested, you should upgrade the i7-920 to a cheap sixcore W3680 / X5680 from eBay.

Sure he can go even with:X5650,X5660,X5670,X5675......for less money and OC them...heck back then I get myself the cheapest 6core @E5645 and OC all the way up to 4,2Ghz.....As long as he knows what is he doing that is what is important.....

 

[busfahrer09]

So I should go for an X5670 for 30 bucks? That's what you're both suggesting? I won't touch that thing from the moment the cooler is on it, I just wanna have a nice performance boost... I regret not buying the rx580 now :/ How high can I can go with the GPU?


Yeah, I've seen somebody using a RX Vega something on it which gave me hope and why I opened that thread in the first place... But I thought there must be some witchcraft going on.

 

[sepheronx]

Yes. It is a great processor. I have the W3680 in my T3500 and was able to get it to 4.1GHZ. It is a solid system tbh. That RX 570 will run just fine in that system.

 

[basco]

Herr busfahrer09
what games do ya play?
and these xeons are all good suggestions but i think you want\need a new graphiccard or am i wrong? i would go the rx580 route(just 20 euros more) or something equivalent from nvidia

which one do ya have now?

every graphiccard should work in your motherboard-they should be backwards compatible.

plz fill out your system specs so we can help better

 

[Zyll Goliat]

So I should go for an X5670 for 30 bucks? That's what you're both suggesting? I won't touch that thing from the moment the cooler is on it, I just wanna have a nice performance boost... I regret not buying the rx580 now :/ How high can I can go with the GPU?


Yeah, I've seen somebody using a RX Vega something on it which gave me hope and why I opened that thread in the first place... But I thought there must be some witchcraft going on.

Just make sure to UPDATE your mobo bios first before you insert that Xeon otherwise it won't boot at all......Well I pushed Rx 480 and GTX 970 to the MAX with my Xeon and yes those Xeons can manage GPU's HIGH as Vega 56/64 or GTX 1070/1080 without bottlenecking or maybe just a bit of choke BUT only IF they are properly overclocked(4,2Ghz-4,5Ghz) otherwise they will choke by how much that will depends from their stocked speed/slower speed bigger choke=less performance-logic.....

 

[busfahrer09]

Herr busfahrer09
what games do ya play?
and these xeons are all good suggestions but i think you want\need a new graphiccard or am i wrong? i would go the rx580 route(just 20 euros more) or something equivalent from nvidia

which one do ya have now?

every graphiccard should work in your motherboard-they should be backwards compatible.

plz fill out your system specs so we can help better

I wanna play the new DOOM basically, PoE and League are laggy af this season but I don't know why... just huge framedrops.

Apparently this MB can even after a whole decade suck every pixel out of the GPUs, I'm superhappy I spent some money back then and probably look for something better now.


specs filled out afaik

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I wanna play the new DOOM basically, PoE and League are laggy af this season but I don't know why... just huge framedrops.

Apparently this MB can even after a whole decade suck every pixel out of the GPUs, I'm superhappy I spent some money back then and probably look for something better now.


specs filled out afaik

Well IF your board working properly then Xeon in combo with RX 570 will give you 60+FPS in 1080p(Ultra settings)easily in Doom Eternal....One more thing make sure to have enough RAM and SSD....my suggestion is at least 12gb and If I could recommend I will go with 16gb-24gb......I personally have 30Gb back then in my X58 platform in all 6 memory slots(3x8+3x2) and it worked like a charm........

 

[busfahrer09]

ok, then I'll rather spend another 100€ for the cpu and I try to find another 6gb of the same I already have (I have to, right?)... That will be more than enough til the next Elder Scrolls comes out and then I'll go uberhardcore anyway for a new system.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

ok, then I'll rather spend another 100€ for the cpu and I try to find another 6gb of the same I already have (I have to, right?)... That will be more than enough til the next Elder Scrolls comes out and then I'll go uberhardcore anyway for a new system.

Dude you don't need to spend 100€ for the CPU just find some of those Xeons:X5650,X5660,X5670,X5675,X5680 ALL of those CPU's are basically the SAME the difference is ONLY their stocked speed and their multiplier(higher multiplier easier to OC)..... I bet that you can find some of them for 10$-30$.....Even the most expensive of those it will still need to be overclocked in the bios so I hope that you know a bit what are you doing If you don't you should go and read some of the tutorials and watch videos on the net before you go in this adventure....GL

 

[busfahrer09]

ok, thanks mate. I'll report next week how it's working out. 100€ I meant ram and cpu combined though, who knows who's selling this old shit lol

 

[Tomgang]

I agree with the others. I have come from where you are now. I upgradet from a I7 920 OC to 4 GHz and 2x GTX 970 In SLI to a 6 core I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz on all cores and a GTX 1080 TI. Trust me the upgrade to 6 cores oc to 4 GHz+ is the best thing i dit back then and with 6 core xeons being as cheap they are now, there is really no reason not to do it. Also your old I7 920 can still bring back a little of the money you spend on a Xeon.

Infact if you are bored from being home maybe in these Covid-19 times and maybe want to burn some money. Here is a little project idea, you cut do with your old setup. I al ready dit it and i am so happy with it.

Replace your I7 920 with a 6 core Xeon like Xeon X5650 or better or if you want to play with unlocket multiplier there are Xeon W3680/W3690. Those are rebranded I7 980X/990X basicly and OC the the crap out of them. 6 core Xeons is godt for over 4 GHz all core oc. If you have a really good aircooler like my own Noctua NH-D14 these old chips can be pushed to 4.4 Ghz or better depending on how good a silicone the chip has.
If you only have 6 GB ram, upgrade to 12 GB ram 1600 MHz or better and remember X58 runs triple channel. Just in case. That Means you shut use 3 or 6 stick of memory. Have seen people only running dual channel and by that lose performance.
I dont know if AMD cards runs on X58, but i can say for sure Nvidia 1000 series cards AKA pascal cards like GTX 1070 and 1080 works flawless. I think there never RTX works as well. But i will reccomend to stick with a used GTX 1080 at most. that will be perfect for some 1080P gaming. I use a GTX 1080 TI because i game in 1600P or 4K when possible.
A little fun fact, if interested. You have a Asus motherboard. That means you have the possibility to run a M.2 NVMe SSD as a boot drive in your system to speed up your pc if interested. What to try it out, you will need a Samsung 950 PRO with 256 GB or 512 GB and a M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor. I have one running in my own X58 setup and it is a blast to have. Even throw i had a SSD to sata before, i have no regrets taken the steps to a NVMe SSD. just remember only Samsung 950 PRO will work out of boks thanks to its legacy mode, no other NVMe ssd have as i know of.

My system as it is now and before.

I7 920

http://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

I7 980X setup.

http://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

[Zyll Goliat]

ok, thanks mate. I'll report next week how it's working out. 100€ I meant ram and cpu combined though, who knows who's selling this old shit lol

They are still plenty of those old servers CPU's around you going to find them easily,the good X58 motherboard is the problem to find not the CPU.....yeah get the(nonECC)RAM as much as you can and make sure to work in TRIPLE CHANNEL....so same speed in three/six slots....

 

[basco]

darf ich fragen wo du herkommst busfahrer? -nur weil ich viel hardware herumliegen habe frage ich.

can i ask where ya come from? -i just ask because i have a lot of hardware laying around

 

[phill]

I agree with the others. I have come from where you are now. I upgradet from a I7 920 OC to 4 GHz and 2x GTX 970 In SLI to a 6 core I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz on all cores and a GTX 1080 TI. Trust me the upgrade to 6 cores oc to 4 GHz+ is the best thing i dit back then and with 6 core xeons being as cheap they are now, there is really no reason not to do it. Also your old I7 920 can still bring back a little of the money you spend on a Xeon.

Infact if you are bored from being home maybe in these Covid-19 times and maybe want to burn some money. Here is a little project idea, you cut do with your old setup. I al ready dit it and i am so happy with it.

Replace your I7 920 with a 6 core Xeon like Xeon X5650 or better or if you want to play with unlocket multiplier there are Xeon W3680/W3690. Those are rebranded I7 980X/990X basicly and OC the the crap out of them. 6 core Xeons is godt for over 4 GHz all core oc. If you have a really good aircooler like my own Noctua NH-D14 these old chips can be pushed to 4.4 Ghz or better depending on how good a silicone the chip has.
If you only have 6 GB ram, upgrade to 12 GB ram 1600 MHz or better and remember X58 runs triple channel. Just in case. That Means you shut use 3 or 6 stick of memory. Have seen people only running dual channel and by that lose performance.
I dont know if AMD cards runs on X58, but i can say for sure Nvidia 1000 series cards AKA pascal cards like GTX 1070 and 1080 works flawless. I think there never RTX works as well. But i will reccomend to stick with a used GTX 1080 at most. that will be perfect for some 1080P gaming. I use a GTX 1080 TI because i game in 1600P or 4K when possible.
A little fun fact, if interested. You have a Asus motherboard. That means you have the possibility to run a M.2 NVMe SSD as a boot drive in your system to speed up your pc if interested. What to try it out, you will need a Samsung 950 PRO with 256 GB or 512 GB and a M.2 to PCIe X4 adaptor. I have one running in my own X58 setup and it is a blast to have. Even throw i had a SSD to sata before, i have no regrets taken the steps to a NVMe SSD. just remember only Samsung 950 PRO will work out of boks thanks to its legacy mode, no other NVMe ssd have as i know of.

My system as it is now and before.

I7 920

http://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

I7 980X setup.

http://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

I'm sure you could have got that 920 a bit higher @Tomgang i7 920 CB R15

But yes agree there's plenty of life in these systems and would definitely recommend a Xeon over a 920/980X which is more or less the same... The Xeon will handle more RAM as well which is definitely a bonus as when I tried 12GB with my 920, it caused no end of issues and problems... I was definitely not close to getting the same clock speed from the 920 as with 6GB...

 

[Tomgang]

I'm sure you could have got that 920 a bit higher @Tomgang i7 920 CB R15

But yes agree there's plenty of life in these systems and would definitely recommend a Xeon over a 920/980X which is more or less the same... The Xeon will handle more RAM as well which is definitely a bonus as when I tried 12GB with my 920, it caused no end of issues and problems... I was definitely not close to getting the same clock speed from the 920 as with 6GB...

Yeah i cut for sure have gotten more out of it with a better cooler. At the time my cpu cooler whas not the best. First with I7 980X where i get the Noctua NH-D14 with it i got a good cooler there cut handle high clocks. I7 920 whas only a single tower cooler used and not a twin tower i use now.

In the return i got my I7 980X up to 4.75 GHz on all core on air cooling in R15 stable a cold winter night. score 1103 in R15.

 

[phill]

Yeah i cut for sure have gotten more out of it with a better cooler. At the time my cpu cooler whas not the best. First with I7 980X where i get the Noctua NH-D14 with it i got a good cooler there cut handle high clocks. I7 920 whas only a single tower cooler used and not a twin tower i use now.

In the return i got my I7 980X up to 4.75 GHz on all core on air cooling in R15 stable a cold winter night. score 1103 in R15.

What a beaut she is sir!! Sadly my EVGA boards are the revision 1.0's as I bought them as soon as they where released, they won't take the Xeon's without the physical modification done to the board, which is why I've kinda side stepped and gone for Gigabyte boards which I'm not as big a fan off, but they work with the Xeon's from the box Makes life a little easier

My 920 was under water most of it's life, it did a brief time under Phase cooling which is was hitting about 5.10GHz around 1.45 to 1.5vcore which I thought was nothing but amazing I was definitely lucky to have some very good overclocking 920's

 

[Tomgang]

What a beaut she is sir!! Sadly my EVGA boards are the revision 1.0's as I bought them as soon as they where released, they won't take the Xeon's without the physical modification done to the board, which is why I've kinda side stepped and gone for Gigabyte boards which I'm not as big a fan off, but they work with the Xeon's from the box Makes life a little easier

My 920 was under water most of it's life, it did a brief time under Phase cooling which is was hitting about 5.10GHz around 1.45 to 1.5vcore which I thought was nothing but amazing I was definitely lucky to have some very good overclocking 920's

Yeah i cant say I7 980X or the two Asus X58 i have tried out has dissapointed in any way. It has just worked flawless from day one. Cant say about other X58 boards as i have only had asus and i have been fairly happy with that. Boards has been stable up til now and still works great and CPU even after serious beating with 1.55 volts and running very hot, this cpu just keeps on going. No sighs of degradation. X58 hardware has been a very nice to play with for sure.

5.1 Ghz at only 1.45 volt, that must have been a good cpu. You won the silicon lottery with that one.

A few more benchmark with CPU above 4.7 GHz to show it really is stable at those clocks.

 

[Durvelle27]

If you want to save even more a X5650 is a great bargain CPU

I had one clocked at 4.6GHz on the same motherboard along with a RX 470 with no issues. Performed great; kinda wish i still had it.