Folding Pie and Milestones!!

[trparky]

Water did not stay inside the loop like it should have. Ultimately a tube cracked near a bend, likely due to how my inability to get this one correct.

And this is the one thing that makes me scared about doing a custom liquid cooling build. I'll stay with my closed loop coolers.

 

[AusWolf]

Is it just me or are the Coronavirus related work units far more complex now? Some of these work units used to take only about three hours on my GTX1060, now they're taking on average five hours to complete.

I started to notice the same, but now I'm doing a CPU and GPU work unit that take only about 2 hours each (on a Core i7-7700 and a GTX 1660 Ti).

 

[trparky]

I started to notice the same, but now I'm doing a CPU and GPU work unit that take only about 2 hours each (on a Core i7-7700 and a GTX 1660 Ti).

I'd love to do work on my 8700K but that bitch of a CPU eats too much power.

 

[phill]

Water did not stay inside the loop like it should have. Ultimately a tube cracked near a bend, likely due to how my inability to get this one correct.

I'm still using soft tubing at the moment, not quite taken by the hard tubing.... I'm sorry to hear you've had problems... Have you lost anything/much/major hardware?

 

[phill]

I started to notice the same, but now I'm doing a CPU and GPU work unit that take only about 2 hours each (on a Core i7-7700 and a GTX 1660 Ti).

My 1080 TI's are taking about 3 to 4.5 hours a unit, my 1070 on the other hand was taking upwards of 6 to 7 hours to complete.... Might have to keep an eye on that...

It seems also I've lost out on credit as one of the work units won't upload because it thinks it's something else from what I can see ...

And then I checked....

And then checked 14435...

So I'm guessing something is up there.....

 

[AusWolf]

My 1080 TI's are taking about 3 to 4.5 hours a unit, my 1070 on the other hand was taking upwards of 6 to 7 hours to complete.... Might have to keep an eye on that...

Maybe I started getting smaller units - the base credit seems to be quite low for a GPU job.

 

[phill]

I'll have another go at it today but I don't wish to be loosing so much GPU time and power if the projects aren't going to work... That's a little wasteful in my eyes...

 

[AusWolf]

I'll have another go at it today but I don't wish to be loosing so much GPU time and power if the projects aren't going to work... That's a little wasteful in my eyes...

It's probably a server issue. Or maybe they ended the project before your computer could finish working on the WU. If it's not persistent, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

[XZero450]

And this is the one thing that makes me scared about doing a custom liquid cooling build. I'll stay with my closed loop coolers.

You're missing out on some of the fun. AIO's fail or dry up too.. This failure is entirely mine, because I knew it was weak tube and then I stressed it to make it fit AND hoped I could cheat death.. I did, for a bit.

I'm still using soft tubing at the moment, not quite taken by the hard tubing.... I'm sorry to hear you've had problems... Have you lost anything/much/major hardware?

No hardware loss. Will be reconfiguring to make that specific run easier. Optimistically planning to have it back up by the end of next week.

 

[phill]

You're missing out on some of the fun. AIO's fail or dry up too.. This failure is entirely mine, because I knew it was weak tube and then I stressed it to make it fit AND hoped I could cheat death.. I did, for a bit.
No hardware loss. Will be reconfiguring to make that specific run easier. Optimistically planning to have it back up by the end of next week.

Thank god I hate the thought of loosing hardware regardless

 

[phill]

Well after a busy day, here's some FAH Pie to look over for everyone... 24th Aprils 2020 results....

And now for the milestones for the day.....

@Anakha56 ??!!
@ATi7500 ??!!
@AusWolf !!
@Bart ??!!
@Basard !!
@Boatvan !!
@cap10 !!
@Captain_Skyhawk ??!!
@Chrumac ??!!
@csireg ??!!
@DawidBurek ??!!
@Dazlaa69 ??!!
@fishie36 !!
@Iciclebear ?!!
@Id034 ??!!

What another great day for team TPU Another mass turn out for the milestones and so as always not enough time to mention everyone hitting their next ones, but please do post up whatever milestone you have hit if I've not mentioned you It's always great to hear how people are getting on

Great work from our stoners and from everyone else who contributed Team TPU is rocking on forward

 

[phill]

Now for a very quick FAH Pie update for the 25th April 2020....

And now for the milestones....

@Anakha56 ??!!
@Arjai !!
@ATi7500 ??!!
@AusWolf !!
@Bart ??!!
@Basard !!
@Captain_Skyhawk ??!!
@csireg ??!!
@DawidBurek ??!!
@Dazlaa69 ??!!
@f0rteOC ??!!
@fishie36 !!
@Icearcher ??!!
@Id034 ??!!
@jlewis02 !!

What another great day for TPU's FAH team
Another massive list of members contributing to it and a load more hitting their next milestones!! I think there was 40 members hitting their milestones today alone!! Well done everyone!!
We have an amazing team here at TPU!!

 

[AusWolf]

A question: The VRAM on my 1660 Ti runs at 1500 MHz (12 GHz effective) when I'm playing games, but at 1437 MHz (11.5 GHz effective) when I'm running F@H, even though GPU-Z reports a 40% load on the graphics memory controller. Is this normal?

 

[phill]

Well here we go for some update on FAH Pie for the 26th April 2020....

And here's the milestones of the day....

@Annoymous ??!!
@ATi7500 ??!!
@AusWolf !!
@Bart ??!!
@BlackSun59 !!
@cap10 !!
@Captain_Skyhawk ??!!
@Chrumac ??!!
@Concerned_Citizen ??!!
@Dazlaa69 ??!!
@DW ??!!
@Id034 ??!!
@Iradklis ??!!
@MAJKIBLAVA ??!!

A great day everyone Wish I could have contributed today but there wasn't much sun for the solar to help me
A massive contribution for the team as always, some really high supporters here and can't thank you all enough for the support

 

[phill]

A question: The VRAM on my 1660 Ti runs at 1500 MHz (12 GHz effective) when I'm playing games, but at 1437 MHz (11.5 GHz effective) when I'm running F@H, even though GPU-Z reports a 40% load on the graphics memory controller. Is this normal?

I believe so @AusWolf I'm not sure why it is, but it's the way it works for the folding..

 

[BlackSun59]

Well here we go for some update on FAH Pie for the 26th April 2020....

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And here's the milestones of the day....

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@Annoymous ??!!
@ATi7500 ??!!
@AusWolf !!
@Bart ??!!
@BlackSun59 !!
@cap10 !!
@Captain_Skyhawk ??!!
@Chrumac ??!!
@Concerned_Citizen ??!!
@Dazlaa69 ??!!
@DW ??!!
@Id034 ??!!
@Iradklis ??!!
@MAJKIBLAVA ??!!

A great day everyone Wish I could have contributed today but there wasn't much sun for the solar to help me
A massive contribution for the team as always, some really high supporters here and can't thank you all enough for the support

Thanks, Phill. Now that my new rig is folding, my daily points are now roughly 20-25x what they used to be, so let's see what happens now!

 

[phill]

Well guys, that time of day or night again, some FAH Pie stats for the 27th April 2020....

And now for the milestones for the day....

@Antykain !!
@Bart ??!!
@Basard !!
@BlackSun59 !!
@Chrumac ??!!
@Cossey3 ??!!
@fishie36 !!
@Icearcher ??!!
@Id034 ??!!
@ioannis ??!!
@JasonBottin ??!!
@jvallen ??!!
@MAJKIBLAVA ??!!
@mstenholm !!
@MtDeW>FOXI< ??!!

I think someone has caught up a little bit with @Jstn7477 !!!! Congrats @mstenholm !! The second person to ever pass by the 3,400,000,0000 points barrier!! Outstanding!!

Great work to all our stoners today, the list is still bigger than the 15 or so members above, so please put up your scores if I've missed you and apologies if I have.. I've only so much time and there's a lot to do to report all these stats for TPU!!

Loving the efforts from everyone, thank you all so much for supporting the team and the cause!! Until tomorrow......

 

[trparky]

Damn. I'm nowhere on that list, I've dropped off badly. I've not gotten a work unit in over a day and a half so that explains why. Bye guys, it's been fun.

 

[phill]

Damn. I'm nowhere on that list, I've dropped off badly. I've not gotten a work unit in over a day and a half so that explains why. Bye guys, it's been fun.

I shut down every day so, it might be worth a restart of the PC or even just the program if you haven't already. Sometimes hitting the pause works as well to

 

[AusWolf]

Damn. I'm nowhere on that list, I've dropped off badly. I've not gotten a work unit in over a day and a half so that explains why. Bye guys, it's been fun.

That's a shame.

I will have to figure out something too. I've just got my first (quarterly) electricity bill since I started folding, and um... I don't quite like the part where the numbers are. I can't even imagine having a top-end graphics card with an Intel "K" or "KS" CPU anymore. Maybe I'll see if I can fold using my HTPC instead of my main one.

Edit: I ran sone calculations: if my 1660 Ti can do a WU in 6 hours, the GT 610 in my HTPC should do it in 222 hours 15 minutes (based on the 37x difference in FP32 performance). If my 1660 Ti needs 130 W to fold (it's an MSI Gaming X), then in 6 hours I use 780 Wh. With the GT 610's TDP of 29 W and 222.25 hours of work, I end up using 6445.27 Wh for the same work unit. I guess a high-end graphics card isn't such a bad idea after all.

 

[trparky]

I'm looking at the idea that if my system is getting no work units then why am I even keeping my system running? It's basically just wasting power now. I'm going to uninstall Folding@Home and go back to letting my system sleep when I'm not using it.

 

[phill]

That's a shame.

I will have to figure out something too. I've just got my first (quarterly) electricity bill since I started folding, and um... I don't quite like the part where the numbers are. I can't even imagine having a top-end graphics card with an Intel "K" or "KS" CPU anymore. Maybe I'll see if I can fold using my HTPC instead of my main one.

Edit: I ran sone calculations: if my 1660 Ti can do a WU in 6 hours, the GT 610 in my HTPC should do it in 222 hours 15 minutes (based on the 37x difference in FP32 performance). If my 1660 Ti needs 130 W to fold (it's an MSI Gaming X), then in 6 hours I use 780 Wh. With the GT 610's TDP of 29 W and 222.25 hours of work, I end up using 6445.27 Wh for the same work unit. I guess a high-end graphics card isn't such a bad idea after all.

When crunching and folding with my GTX 1070, the power draw is about the 300 to 310w marker.. It's not too bad as it also has 16 threads crunching away, with a 2700X installed It's not a bad system at all (Very far from tweaked in anyway shape or form mind....)
Same thing on my main gaming rig, 3900X + 2 1080 Ti's, that's pulling double the watts but it's producing about 3 to 4 times the points for the day, so that's not a bad thing at all in my eyes I test all of my rigs and I'm still waiting for 10 minutes where it's not 1am and I need sleep to put up some wattage usage for everyone!

I guess it's like a car analogy.... You have a Prius and drive it flat out, it'll drink fuel in comparison.. Have something like a M3/S4 etc. and follow the Prius doing the same thing, the M3/S4 will be more efficient because it's built for it.. I guess in a way the same can be said for the higher end GPUs... Yes they are hugely expensive and even more so with the RTX 2070/80/Ti versions, but they'll pull a little more power but get the job done in much less time
Another reason for always over spec'ing your GPU/CPU in a build in my head.... Whatever do I know?? (here's the Top Gear vid from the UK I got the analogy from... Top Gear - M3 v Prius...

I'm looking at the idea that if my system is getting no work units then why am I even keeping my system running? It's basically just wasting power now. I'm going to uninstall Folding@Home and go back to letting my system sleep when I'm not using it.

I tend to pause FAH if it doesn't find a work unit for about 5 mintues, then leave it an hour before I pause it for the last time and leave it a couple hours (it's doing WCG as well at the same time...) If it doesn't download a work unit, FAH just gets turned off and I just crunch for our WCG team

I don't crunch 24/7 mainly due to the power consumption of all my crunchers put together, my word I'd have a heart attack when I would look at the electric bill... I only tend to run everything when the solar panels are working nicely and are giving out about 1000w to 1500w... If anything over 2000w is being made, everything is on and I have another working away now for Rosetta so without solar I'd never be even close to what I can put out that's for sure!!

 

[AusWolf]

When crunching and folding with my GTX 1070, the power draw is about the 300 to 310w marker.. It's not too bad as it also has 16 threads crunching away, with a 2700X installed It's not a bad system at all (Very far from tweaked in anyway shape or form mind....)
Same thing on my main gaming rig, 3900X + 2 1080 Ti's, that's pulling double the watts but it's producing about 3 to 4 times the points for the day, so that's not a bad thing at all in my eyes I test all of my rigs and I'm still waiting for 10 minutes where it's not 1am and I need sleep to put up some wattage usage for everyone!

I guess it's like a car analogy.... You have a Prius and drive it flat out, it'll drink fuel in comparison.. Have something like a M3/S4 etc. and follow the Prius doing the same thing, the M3/S4 will be more efficient because it's built for it.. I guess in a way the same can be said for the higher end GPUs... Yes they are hugely expensive and even more so with the RTX 2070/80/Ti versions, but they'll pull a little more power but get the job done in much less time
Another reason for always over spec'ing your GPU/CPU in a build in my head.... Whatever do I know?? (here's the Top Gear vid from the UK I got the analogy from... Top Gear - M3 v Prius...


I tend to pause FAH if it doesn't find a work unit for about 5 mintues, then leave it an hour before I pause it for the last time and leave it a couple hours (it's doing WCG as well at the same time...) If it doesn't download a work unit, FAH just gets turned off and I just crunch for our WCG team

I don't crunch 24/7 mainly due to the power consumption of all my crunchers put together, my word I'd have a heart attack when I would look at the electric bill... I only tend to run everything when the solar panels are working nicely and are giving out about 1000w to 1500w... If anything over 2000w is being made, everything is on and I have another working away now for Rosetta so without solar I'd never be even close to what I can put out that's for sure!!

I love the Prius vs M3 video, thanks for that!

As for the folding vs power consumption sweet spot... I've been thinking about upgrading the small HTPC with a GeForce 1030 for the 4K HDMI output and the H.265 decoding capabilities. I just think it's a bit on the expensive side for a computer with an almost 10 year old CPU in it. But maybe it's time.

Edit: Another calculation with the 1030: My 1660 Ti has 4.93x the FP32 performance of the MSI 1030 that I could get. So the job that takes the 1660 Ti 6 hours to complete would take the 1030 29.63 hours. With TDPs of 130 and 30 Watts respectively, I use 780 Wh with the 1660 Ti and would use 889.19 Wh with the 1030 for the same work unit. I probably wouldn't earn a lot of points then, but work efficiency-wise it isn't too bad.

 

[phill]

I love the Prius vs M3 video, thanks for that!

As for the folding vs power consumption sweet spot... I've been thinking about upgrading the small HTPC with a GeForce 1030 for the 4K HDMI output and the H.265 decoding capabilities. I just think it's a bit on the expensive side for a computer with an almost 10 year old CPU in it. But maybe it's time.

Edit: Another calculation with the 1030: My 1660 Ti has 4.93x the FP32 performance of the MSI 1030 that I could get. So the job that takes the 1660 Ti 6 hours to complete would take the 1030 29.63 hours. With TDPs of 130 and 30 Watts respectively, I use 780 Wh with the 1660 Ti and would use 889.19 Wh with the 1030 for the same work unit. I probably wouldn't earn a lot of points then, but work efficiency-wise it isn't too bad.

Treat yourself and replace the lot

I would say not to really base it on how long jobs take so much.. Some jobs I've had can take an hour, others take 6 hours on my 1080 Ti.... I think it's very much luck of the draw with them That also said, what would you use a GPU for in another rig? Would it be for just folding or would there be gaming or as you've mentioned decoding involved? If you're going to get something to replace something, then make sure it does it well and some again.
My advise is never skimp on it and you'll end up saving money even when things do cost a little more. Ironic to say it costing more but my way of thinking is very much like this. Will this card do whatever I ask of it right now? Yes? Ok, what's the next step up and how much faster is it.. If it's worth the extra and jump in performance, then I'd say go for it.

I went form a GTX 1070 to two 1080 Ti's, I've never looked back (one would have done but things happen ) You pay the price for the sheer grunt and such for buying a more expensive card make no mistake... But if I had wanted a jump in performance just like I did from my 1070 to a 1080 Ti, then the only real step forward is two 2080 Ti's which would cost double again what my 1080's cost... I'm not really able to spend that kind of cash at the moment, but if I could? Nope. It's not a big enough jump in performance for me from the cost...
Even with decoding as well, a faster GPU works wonders compared to a slower one.... (I base that on a blu ray ripping program I use.. The 1080 Ti compared to my 5960X @ 4.20GHz, takes less than half the time to encode in comparison... 2.5 hours for the CPU, about 30 to 40 minutes for the GPU

 

[phill]

Right as I'd completely gone of on a tangent above, here's something to bring it back on track.... FAH Pie for the 28th April 2020.....

And now for the milestones.....

@Anakha56 ??!!
@ATi7500 ??!!
@AusWolf !!
@BlackSun59 !!
@Chrumac ??!!
@Cossey3 ??!!
@csireg ??!!
@Frederico ??!!
@Iciclebear ??
@jlewis02 !!
@jvallen ??!!
@Mike2Fr ??!!
@MtDeW>FOXI< ??!!
@nwgat ??!!
@RandomSadness !!

Great work everyone!! Awesome to see so many members contributing still.. I do wonder if the other teams will keep going as strongly and even more so when they see the power consumption they've used with the GPUs doing all the folding!?! I wonder if Nvidia might get some letters/complaints at electric usage??

Still I digress... Amazing efforts as always everyone, will see you tomorrow