AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

[W1zzard]

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X crams all its cores into a single CCX. We tested the CCX impact in our review with impressive results, especially in games, where the new CPU design achieves great numbers that are close enough to more expensive Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 models, especially if you consider the cost savings.

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[TheLostSwede]

That's really impressive for $120.
Looks like the budget choice to go for.
The 4000-series APUs ought to perform similar to this, based on the fact that they only have one CCD as well.

 

[Hugis]

Thats some mighty impressive numbers there(looks like the go to for the budget consious), thanks Wiz for the reviews top stuff!( as allways)

 

[FreedomEclipse]

That's really impressive for $120.

I was thinking this too - I kept flipping back and forth between the CPU chart and gaming performance benchmarks multiple times just to reference stuff between it and the i5-8400. Even for the 9900. $120 for almost top tier levels of gaming performance is absolutely insane.

of course for longevity the R3 might not stand the test of time due to the core count. but at $120. Providing you got a solid motherboard you can grab a R5 or R7 CPU at a later date when prices drop. A really small price to pay if youre a gamer.

Right here, Right now - its a winner for people that just game and surf the net.

 

[bug]

For what you do with your desktop every day + gaming, this is a tad slower than the 3600(X) at half the price. Who can hate that?
Interesting enough, despite the core number difference, both still seem to draw the same amount of power.

Edit: To put it another way, $100-120 is now overkill if you only need to do some office work. (I know, it's missing an IGP, but still...)

 

[ERazer]

time to upgrade my kiddos rig

 

[Fourstaff]

Wow this is one little speed demon.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

I'll have to say, it's difficult watching this 3300x outperforming my 2700x in certain applications... I'm 100% upgrading when Ryzen4000/Zen3 is released, and I think I'll be moving up to a 4900/X (12 core) as it's apparent now that 8 cores won't remain as relevant for as long as I previously thought. Which means I'll probably want to upgrade my Asus X470-F motherboard as well.... Which means I'll want upgrade from my PCIe 3.0 NVMe drive to a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive..... I'll have to just ride out my 5700xt though... Even though I've got a feeling RDNA2 could definitely be a Zen moment for the GPU division.

I'm very curious as to whether the single CCX in the 3300x and how it equated to a 12% performance boost in applications is something that will be applicable, in addition. The IPC uplift and frequency boosts, to Ryzen 4000/Zen3 when it's released as AMD is going to have 8 cores per CCX for the upcoming generation. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but if that performance uplift is applicable, then Zen3 could be seriously amazing. They're already talking about at least a 15%-20% IPC uplift, perhaps 200-300Mhz frequency boost from moving to N7+, and PERHAPS a 12% uplift from cutting the number of CCX's in half?????

I'll admit, I don't know if what I've extracted from this review is applicable to Zen3, but if it is, that could be really cool.

 

[Fleurious]

The temperature under load is interesting, why so hot compared to the other chips being tested?

 

[bug]

I'm very curious as to whether the single CCX in the 3300x and how it equated to a 12% performance boost in applications is something that will be applicable, in addition. The IPC uplift and frequency boosts, to Ryzen 4000/Zen3 when it's released as AMD is going to have 8 cores per CCX for the upcoming generation. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but if that performance uplift is applicable, then Zen3 could be seriously amazing. They're already talking about at least a 15%-20% IPC uplift, perhaps 200-300Mhz frequency boost from moving to N7+, and PERHAPS a 12% uplift from cutting the number of CCX's in half?????

I'll admit, I don't know if what I've extracted from this review is applicable to Zen3, but if it is, that could be really cool.

The "uplift" is because inter-core communication doesn't have to go over IF. If Zen3 packs more cores onto a CCX, it will benefit from that. But once you go outside the CCX, higher latency will be back.

 

[agatong55]

Been waiting for these reviews, I cant wait to get one for my fiance new computer, I wonder though how much of an upgrade this would be over my 1600x, and would it actually be worth it.

 

[SL2]

For what you do with your desktop every day + gaming, this is a tad slower than the 3600(X) at half the price. Who can hate that?

Well, the 3600 is not that expensive, it's about 170 USD/Euro. Anyway, both are excellent CPU's, you can't go wrong with either one.

 

[bug]

Well, the 3600 is not that expensive, it's about 170 USD/Euro. Anyway, both are excellent CPU's, you can't go wrong with either one.

Oh, they are. I was just saying, going with the 3300X gives you something almost as fast and leaves at least $50 in your pocket.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

I'll have to say, it's difficult watching this 3300x outperforming my 2700x in certain applications... I'm 100% upgrading when Ryzen4000/Zen3 is released, and I think I'll be moving up to a 4900/X (12 core) as it's apparent now that 8 cores won't remain as relevant for as long as I previously thought. Which means I'll probably want to upgrade my Asus X470-F motherboard as well.... Which means I'll want upgrade from my PCIe 3.0 NVMe drive to a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive..... I'll have to just ride out my 5700xt though... Even though I've got a feeling RDNA2 could definitely be a Zen moment for the GPU division.

I'm very curious as to whether the single CCX in the 3300x and how it equated to a 12% performance boost in applications is something that will be applicable, in addition. The IPC uplift and frequency boosts, to Ryzen 4000/Zen3 when it's released as AMD is going to have 8 cores per CCX for the upcoming generation. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but if that performance uplift is applicable, then Zen3 could be seriously amazing. They're already talking about at least a 15%-20% IPC uplift, perhaps 200-300Mhz frequency boost from moving to N7+, and PERHAPS a 12% uplift from cutting the number of CCX's in half?????

I'll admit, I don't know if what I've extracted from this review is applicable to Zen3, but if it is, that could be really cool.

Hold your horses unless you want to throw away money. 8C/16T will do just fine in the next 5 years or more. There really is no need to upgrade to 12C/24T unless you're doing very specific heavily MT tasks. Parallel computing, especially task parallelism is very hard to incorporate into the game code. Game development software and game devs still need years to implement 16T into gaming properly. I can think of only 1 single game code today that utilizes 8T efficiently (Ashes of the singularity). Even games that are somewhat MT use only 2T for majority of the tasks and distribute only very specific tasks between more Ts. This will change with new generation of consoles, but change will be slow. I can imagine most games utilizing 8C and some 16T to some extend by the end of the lifetime of SP5/XboxX console generation, not before. 8C/16T with high frequency and high IPC will be more than enough until "SP6" comes out plus one or 2 years later.

 

[Bee9]

I wonder how Intel will react to this. The pricing is the retail price, isn’t it?

Hold your horses unless you want to throw away money. 8C/16T will do just fine in the next 5 years or more. There really is no need to upgrade to 12C/24T unless you're doing very specific heavily MT tasks. Parallel computing, especially task parallelism is very hard to incorporate into the game code. Game development software and game devs still need years to implement 16T into gaming properly. I can think of only 1 single game code today that utilizes 8T efficiently (Ashes of the singularity). Even games that are somewhat MT use only 2T for majority of the tasks and distribute only very specific tasks between more Ts. This will change with new generation of consoles, but change will be slow. I can imagine most games utilizing 8C and some 16T to some extend by the end of the lifetime of SP5/XboxX console generation, not before. 8C/16T with high frequency and high IPC will be more than enough until "SP6" comes out plus one or 2 years later.

Total war 3 kingdoms run 20 threads with my 3900x and the loading time , end turn time is reduced significantly.
It helps a lot if you game and recording/streaming at the same time and still want to maintain 144fps.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

I wonder how Intel will react to this. The pricing is the retail price, isn’t it?




Total war 3 kingdoms run 20 threads with my 3900x and the loading time , end turn time is reduced significantly.
It helps a lot if you game and recording/streaming at the same time and still want to maintain 144fps.

Uses 20 threads to what extend? I bet that you'd see 2 maybe 4 cores doing most of the tasks if you'd analyze tasks redistribution inside code. Parallel programming is a programmers nightmare. I've been working in a workgroup programming databases on servers mostly in Ada and C++. Databases are ideal candidates for MT as tasks are very similar, execution order is not that important and by running many threads at once, these applications are able to tolerate the high amounts of I/O and memory system latency their workloads can incur, but writing efficient MT code for something as diverse as game code is not an easy thing to do. If you stream, game and maybe render/encode in the background then yes, more cores is better, but for normal gamer who just wants to play single game with no task in the background 16TH will be more than enough in foreseeable future. The most demanding game coming in 2020 console generation will most probably be FS2020 and ideal specs for it are 2700x/32GB DDR4/RTX 2080... That's all one will need in the next 5 years for gaming under assumption that game is properly ported to PC, which most will be because new XBoX basically runs Windows OS.

 

[W1zzard]

The temperature under load is interesting, why so hot compared to the other chips being tested?

relatively high clock and voltage i think, or could be heat density, too

The "uplift" is because inter-core communication doesn't have to go over IF.

does communication within the same ccd even go over IF ?

 

[Bee9]

Uses 20 threads to what extend? I bet that you'd see 2 maybe 4 cores doing most of the tasks if you'd analyze tasks redistribution inside code. Parallel programming is a programmers nightmare. I've been working in a workgroup programming databases on servers mostly in Ada and C++. Databases are ideal candidates for MT as tasks are very similar, execution order is not that important and by running many threads at once, these applications are able to tolerate the high amounts of I/O and memory system latency their workloads can incur, but writing efficient MT code for something as diverse as game code is not an easy thing to do. If you stream, game and maybe render/encode in the background then yes, more core is better, but for normal gamer who just wants to play game with no task in the background 16TH will be more than enough in foreseeable future. The most demanding game coming in 2020 console generation will most probably be FS2020 and ideal specs for it are 2700x/32GB DDR4/RTX 2080... That's all one will need in the next 5 years for gaming if game will be properly ported to PC, which most will because new XBoX basically runs Windows OS.

I see 20% for all of 20 threads and the loading speed into battle has been cut by 40%. I had to specify the number of threads to use in the config file. However, as you say, if I only game, it’s a waste of processing power so I have 16 other python bots running in the background. My 3900x sitting at 99% usage most of the time.
I totally agree with you on the 8 cores cpu is enough. I always advise people to buy computer for their needs today and upgrade in the future because technology moves faster our jobs.

With the price of 3900x dropping in the future, I think it it a totally viable solution for people who do real work.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

relatively high clock and voltage i think, or could be heat density, too


does communication within the same ccd even go over IF ?

Maybe a disabled CCX inside CCD still consumes some energy?

 

[W1zzard]

Maybe a disabled CCX inside CCD still consumes some energy?

My power efficiency numbers contradict that

 

[trparky]

What happened here?

I don't think I've ever seen this on a benchmark at TechPowerUp. Did something epically fail here?

I have to wonder; would this processor be an upgrade to someone who's a light user who already has a 2600X?

 

[HD64G]

What a great value CPU this 3300X is! With any GPU beside 2080Ti lvl of performance, you get the 90-95% of the best gaming CPU available on the market today. For less than 25% of the price and with the included stock cooler.

 

[W1zzard]

Did something epically fail here?

yeah failed in one of the tests, so can't calculate a relative percentage

 

[trparky]

yeah failed in one of the tests, so can't calculate a relative percentage

Wow, that's a new one. Like I said, I don't think I've ever seen an outright failure of a benchmark here at TechPowerUp. It's always a low score, never a giant goose egg.

 

[W1zzard]

Wow, that's a new one. Like I said, I don't think I've ever seen an outright failure of a benchmark here at TechPowerUp. It's always a low score, never a giant goose egg.

The Pentium would simply crash all the time in Rage 2, no matter what I did