AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

[Bee9]

Is Core i3 9350KF has HT? If not, than will be interesting the next gen with it at 5GHz.

Nope. Core i3 9350KF Is 4 cores 4 threads.

 

[ahujet]

Glad to see that you've kept the 720p benchmarks, not a lot of people bench 720p, because they don't understand the purpose of it.

 

[W1zzard]

Glad to see that you've kept the 720p benchmarks, not a lot of people bench 720p, because they don't understand the purpose of it.

No worries, it's not going away

 

[las]

I'd rather pick up a 2600 then. 4c/8t is simply not enough for most stuff these days. Especially not if you're playing newer games.

 

[Ripcord]

I'd rather pick up a 2600 then. 4c/8t is simply not enough for most stuff these days. Especially not if you're playing newer games.

I agree its fine if your are playing a single player game, but how many of those do you see around, when you start adding voice apps like discord and team-speak and/or streaming then those extra cores really start to show their worth.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I agree its fine if your are playing a single player game, but how many of those do you see around, when you start adding voice apps like discord and team-speak and/or streaming then those extra cores really start to show their worth.

Agree. The thing is the way benchmarks are run, they try to run one application in isolation (even if it is multi-threaded). So, they close everything that might 'interfere' with or make results 'inconsistent'. This is not a real world scenario, as much as they may want to pretend that it is.

In the real world, how many people have a web browser, discord, email, messaging apps, virus scan \ defender, steam client, maybe ubisofts client, nvidia experience helper apps, and probably far more running while playing a game? I think almost all of them run that way. Only a small fraction of OCD types will mess around with making their system 'pure' for a game.

 

[bmacsys]

Really? There's that many people still wanting to shop for electronics during this modern day plague?

So your idea to fight the "modern day plague" is to stop living?

 

[trparky]

So your idea to fight the "modern day plague" is to stop living?

I'd be buying more important things like food in times like this. Thankfully I already have a setup for gaming, so I don't have to ask myself if I need food or gaming.

 

[bug]

I'd be buying more important things like food in times like this. Thankfully I already have a setup for gaming, so I don't have to ask myself if I need food or gaming.

You're implying people buying electronics don't buy food?
Also, a little distraction is also in order if you want to keep your sanity. This could be electronics for some, reading a book for others or maybe finishing that garden project you were postponing since forever. There's nothing amiss here.

 

[bmacsys]

I'd be buying more important things like food in times like this. Thankfully I already have a setup for gaming, so I don't have to ask myself if I need food or gaming.

I am sure people who are buying electronics gear aren't going without buying food.

 

[tomfuegue]

Fantastic review, as always.

 

[Exxor]

I'm fairly certain the reviewer got a lower silicon quality 3300X, but I was able to achieve a stable 4.35GHz overclock. My motherboard set its voltage between 1.375v to 1.4v. But yes, this CPU is quite incredible for its price point.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

I'm fairly certain the reviewer got a lower silicon quality 3300X, but I was able to achieve a stable 4.35GHz overclock. My motherboard set its voltage between 1.375v to 1.4v. But yes, this CPU is quite incredible for its price point.

1.375 - 1.4v... for Zen 2? Is this just a test or daily driver?

If it's the latter, can I have that chip to put on my keychain when it dies in like a few months?

 

[Exxor]

lol My mistake. Its running at 1.3v. I have the clock manually set, and it runs at 4.35 all day long at 1.3v. Though when I set it to auto, and had PBO set to 200MHz, it would reach 4.45 at 1.4v, almost 1.5v. So I'm leaving the manual clock as is.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

lol My mistake. Its running at 1.3v. I have the clock manually set, and it runs at 4.35 all day long at 1.3v. Though when I set it to auto, and had PBO set to 200MHz, it would reach 4.45 at 1.4v, almost 1.5v. So I'm leaving the manual clock as is.

Two things.
1. I wouldn't try to manually OC Zen 2 and above. The CPUs are good enough at clocking on their own when paired with a good board with solid power delivery, good cooling and updated OS/BIOS/Chipset drivers.
2. 1.3v is still not a voltage I'd run on Zen 2 manual OC.

Auto and PBO are a different story. The Zen 2 safety mechanisms (Voltage Fitness Regulator) are still in place even when PBO is on, so the CPU always get a voltage it deems safe. But once you start manually OCing you disable all those safety features and the CPU's life is in your hands. Even if you think 4.3 at 1.3v is safe, Zen 2 7nm is not as good as Intel 14nm at taking voltage. 1.25v is much more safe.

Did you see that 1.4v and almost 1.5v during an all core test, or only during idle single thread? If it's the latter, it's safe.

Wanna find out your safe manual OC voltage? Put the CPU on stock settings, and run Prime95 Small FFT with AVX disabled while HWiNFO is running in the background, and watch the SVI2 TFN voltage.
Most Zen 2 chips that I've done this on (including my friends' experiments too) have their safe voltage at around 1.25v.

 

[Exxor]

Two things.
1. I wouldn't try to manually OC Zen 2 and above. The CPUs are good enough at clocking on their own when paired with a good board with solid power delivery, good cooling and updated OS/BIOS/Chipset drivers.
2. 1.3v is still not a voltage I'd run on Zen 2 manual OC.

Auto and PBO are a different story. The Zen 2 safety mechanisms (Voltage Fitness Regulator) are still in place even when PBO is on, so the CPU always get a voltage it deems safe. But once you start manually OCing you disable all those safety features and the CPU's life is in your hands. Even if you think 4.3 at 1.3v is safe, Zen 2 7nm is not as good as Intel 14nm at taking voltage. 1.25v is much more safe.

Did you see that 1.4v and almost 1.5v during an all core test, or only during idle single thread? If it's the latter, it's safe.

Wanna find out your safe manual OC voltage? Put the CPU on stock settings, and run Prime95 Small FFT with AVX disabled while HWiNFO is running in the background, and watch the SVI2 TFN voltage.
Most Zen 2 chips that I've done this on (including my friends' experiments too) have their safe voltage at around 1.25v.

If that's the case, the motherboard I currently have isn't doing my 3300X any good at all. Because having it set to default without PBO sets it default to run between 1.375 to 1.4 all the time. While idle, and under full load. Not to mention it runs hotter at the default settings. Only when I have it manually set to an all-core clock is when the voltage and temperatures drop. Default under a full load brings the CPU up and over 70C. And when I manually set it, it barely makes 60C. Just in case, my motherboard is the ASUS B350M-E. And I also made absolutely sure that my OS, BIOS, and chipset drivers are all up to date beforehand.

Edit: Also, what safe voltage is it for the SVI2 TFN?

Edit Edit: I took a look at the voltages as I was running Prime95, with AVX turned off, the main core voltage is 1.275, and the SoC and VID voltages are 1.1.