AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

Camm · May 7, 2020

gamefoo21 said:
AMD's excuse is bios size... Uhhh... What? It's called monetary gains.

It should be noted that AMD might not even be the culprit here, both Gigabyte & MSI had issues even updating support for 2nd and 3rd gen Ryzen chips due to the smaller size UEFI chips they used on some boards.

Still, two-three generations of support on older motherboards is pretty good considering the amount of single generation chipsets we've had from Intel.

Fouquin · May 7, 2020

lynx29 said:
first gen ryzen couldn't keep ram stable for it's life. so not really, 2 generations if we talking stable performance.

My launch day 1600X just turned 3 years old and has been running 3300MHz CL16 since day zero.

windwhirl · May 7, 2020

ensabrenoir said:
AMD will eventually go all dark side and join the Sith

With all that red marketing, we should have seen the signs? LOL

Also, a lot of people trash/trashed AMD for power consumption, but that's just because Force lightning is really taxing.

R-T-B · May 7, 2020

lynx29 said:
first gen ryzen couldn't keep ram stable for it's life. so not really, 2 generations if we talking stable performance.

I mean it's still a generation like it or not. And FWIW, my Ryzen 1800X was able to run Samsung b-die at 3200Mhz quad kit no problem.

It was picky with ram, but when it worked, it worked well.

Space Lynx · May 7, 2020

got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.

Dave65 said:
Yeah Intel would never do this right?

all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.

djisas · May 7, 2020

lynx29 said:
got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.

all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.

Good luck spending 500€ for 10fps...

Camm · May 7, 2020

lynx29 said:
got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.

all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.

You know, I find it highly improbable that someone who had a low end board ordered suddenly raged and returned the board to go for the absolute high end of a competitors product..... lol.

1d10t · May 7, 2020

Nah..let him be.He just another justifiable buyer, sees anything from his own optics :laugh:

Seriously, max fps, in 60Hz monitor ? Yeah highest graph is more readable than lower graph such as minimum or low percentage :laugh:

Assimilator · May 7, 2020

Pretty glad I went for a second-hand X370 board when I was building a Ryzen system at Christmas. Got a Crosshair VI Hero, which is packed to the brim with features and overclocks better than many "premium" X570 boards, for 2/3 of what the cheapest brand new X570 board was going for. Only thing it's missing is an extra M.2 slot - a cheap Chinese add-in card solved that, and is usable on any system I build going forward, to boot.

This is a bit of a dick move from AMD, but it's almost certainly a response to Intel's continuing failure to provide any sort of competition to Zen. As an enthusiast I can't say that I like it, but I understand it from a financial viewpoint.

Fouquin · May 7, 2020

lynx29 said:
got my z490 mobo pre-ordered. take care AMD, I won't miss your Navi drivers that's for sure. hopefully Ampere is the big powerhouse I expect it to be, all I care about is FPS not brand loyalty.

all I care about is max fps. intel and nvidia still wins.

You flip flop between upgrades faster than the transistors in these chips. This has to be the third or fourth time I've seen you in a thread shunning something that you spent months hyping up.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 7, 2020

gamefoo21 said:
Livid being AMD has been dead silent, while saying AM4 was getting at least Zen 3. The reviewers, YouTubers, and sites all suggested B450 for value builds because of upgrade path.

AMD did worse than Intel.

I agree that tech moves forward but AMD basically lied to consumers, IMHO.

Lied, show proof AMD said any of the sort.

While you're at it find a review that says get b450 for the upgrade path I recall none using that argument.

Then while you're at it slap yourself and re read what you wrote which in part is true except the who.

SOME people said not AMD... ...

Learn a lesson about hearsay and rumours.

@lynx29 grow up , run off buy what you want and crack on with it, AMD and not a single reader of your drivel(I'm certain) gives the slightest shit what you want, or me.

Kin AMD n intel the shit bastard's I wanted 64 cores and more importantly 64 pciex4 lanes for mainstream money.

Thankfully due to the war (processor)that might now happen , sure as f### not because of intel though.

Roll on 2023.

Turmania · May 7, 2020

AMD will get away with it, from it`s fanboys.

TheLostSwede · May 7, 2020

Turmania said:
AMD will get away with it, from it`s fanboys.

Get away with what exactly? If you're going to make accusations, at least spell them out.

oxidized · May 7, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
Get away with what exactly? If you're going to make accusations, at least spell them out.

The fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you some AM4 chipsets don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.

Vya Domus · May 7, 2020

gamefoo21 said:
AMD did worse than Intel.

Let me get this straight, you think AMD is worse because some youtuber and whoever else recommend people to buy something in particular ? Or are they worse because they supported more CPUs than any other platform Intel ever had ? Sorry, I can't figure it out.

You know what, buy from Intel then and never touch anything made by AMD if you think that. No matter what will happen people will always come up with the most bewildering explanations on why a brand is worse or better. Just pick your favorite color buddy and sparse us this nonsense, you don't need to explain yourself at the end of the day for anything.

If you like to pay extra for the privilege to get ripped off the most from a particular company, knock yourself out.

Camm said:
You know, I find it highly improbable that someone who had a low end board ordered suddenly raged and returned the board to go for the absolute high end of a competitors product..... lol.

He's a troll at best or suffers from cognitive dissonance at worst, spends most of this time on this forum going back and forth why Intel/AMD/Nvidia is dead or the best.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
The fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.

Has a single one of you neg's got the slightest bit of proof of what you allege AMD said , I was listening I heard none of that please do show?.

@Turmania dangerous word that usually weilded by one and often like with you, f all facts just vitreal.

Were 7 pages deep mostly on irrelevant shit that's nowt to do with b550 , time for facts proof and some to stop trolling and start backing up their BS.

oxidized · May 7, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
Has a single one of you neg's got the slightest bit of proof of what you allege AMD said , I was listening I heard none of that please do show?.

@Turmania dangerous word that usually weilded by one and often like with you, f all facts just vitreal.

Were 7 pages deep mostly on irrelevant shit that's nowt to do with b550 , time for facts proof and some to stop trolling and start backing up their BS.

They promised support of the AM4 socket until 2021, maybe they never said specifically that every CPU gen would be supported on every Chipset gen, but they also never denied that, and again as i said, saying you're "supporting AM4 socket until 2021" means nothing if not what everyone understood initially, stop defending at all costs your favorite brand.

This deserves as much bashing as intel for their stuff.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
They promised support of the AM4 socket until 2021, maybe they never said specifically that every CPU gen would be supported on every Chipset gen, but they also never denied that, and again as i said, saying you're "supporting AM4 socket until 2021" means nothing if not what everyone understood initially, stop defending at all costs your favorite brand.

This deserves as much bashing as intel for their stuff.

Maybe you specifically have proof??

Do show

It costs f all I'm bored cos of Rona but tbf I'm getting more bored with they said!

Should we all join in berating even if a we as an engineer understand the why, no mate.

oxidized · May 7, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
Maybe you specifically have proof??

Do show

Are you for real, they've stated that multiple times, recently changed that to 2020, which changes nothing honestly.

And they stated this even today.

The Exciting Future of AMD Socket AM4

In 2016, we made a pretty bold commitment to you: we would continue to support AMD Socket AM4 until 2020. It was a big promise, especially given what people were accustomed to with other platforms. In the four ensuing years, the humble Socket AM4 has been on an incredible trajectory: 4X more...

community.amd.com

This here is a recent slide, it says 2021.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
Are you for real, they've stated that multiple times, recently changed that to 2020, which changes nothing honestly.

And they stated this even today.

The Exciting Future of AMD Socket AM4

In 2016, we made a pretty bold commitment to you: we would continue to support AMD Socket AM4 until 2020. It was a big promise, especially given what people were accustomed to with other platforms. In the four ensuing years, the humble Socket AM4 has been on an incredible trajectory: 4X more...

community.amd.com

Of course you realise that says 2020!

You can't find 2021 cos it's in your head.

And points out exactly what this says 550/570/ only for zen3.

And say's why.

oxidized · May 7, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
Of course you realise that says 2020!

You can't find 2021 cos it's in your head.

And points out exactly what this says 550/570/ only for zen3.

And say's why.

It changes nothing because 4000 series is going to be on AM4 too

And touting support of a socket means nothing if you don't intend to support most of AM4 CPUs on most Chipsets gens, and that's people understood indeed, that's why many are so pissed right now.

TheoneandonlyMrK · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
No it changes nothing because 4000 series is going to be on AM4 too

With different features and chipset, features older board's already do Not support but the same socket.
Ffs how many incompatible 1151 board types have intel released, I have a b250 I know.
They never said either btw.

As for that slide you made coal out of beans on toast it says nothing of the sort and if you got full backwards support from that you need help dealing with information.

TheLostSwede · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
The fact they promised "support until 2021" what does this mean to you? Supporting a socket means nothing if you don't support part of the CPUs that come out for it.

They promised AM4 support, what that means, they never explained and clearly no-one asked the question either, until now and all of a sudden, everyone's shocked. Again, AMD doesn't address you and me, it addresses its customers when it makes these announcements, so just because some people thought it meant something, it doesn't mean that's what AMD meant.

oxidized · May 7, 2020

theoneandonlymrk said:
With different features and chipset, features older board's already do Not support but the same socket.
Ffs how many incompatible 1151 board types have intel released, I have a b250 I know.
They never said either btw.

And there we go! Let's talk about intel now shall we?

TheLostSwede said:
They promised AM4 support, what that means, they never explained and clearly no-one asked the question either, until now and all of a sudden, everyone's shocked. Again, AMD doesn't address you and me, it addresses its customers when it makes these announcements, so just because some people thought it meant something, it doesn't mean that's what AMD meant.

Support AM4 to do what if not support most CPUs on most Chipsets? Cmon guys you're really trying your hardest here, stop that honestly, this move was sh** if confirmed, just as shit as intel's, with the aggravating component which is touted support of AM4 until 2021 or 2020, which changes nothing.

TheLostSwede · May 7, 2020

oxidized said:
Support AM4 to do what if not support most CPUs on most Chipsets? Cmon guys you're really trying your hardest here, stop that honestly, this move was sh** if confirmed, just as shit as intel's, with the aggravating component which is touted support of AM4 until 2021 or 2020, which changes nothing.

Please read my previous response to the same question earlier in this thread, as I'm not writing that again.

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