ASRock Z490 Taichi Preview

Black Haru · May 11, 2020

ASRock's award winning Taichi line is back, and aiming for the top of ASRock's Z490 stack. The cog and gear theme returns, along with a new VRM thermal solution with a finned heat sink and active cooling. What other new tricks has ASRock included in the ASRock Z490 Taichi?

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P4-630 · May 11, 2020

Has AMD's long support of the AM4 socket on its newer generation processors inspired Intel to take similar steps?

Intel released the lga1200 socket for the new Comet Lake-S processors, but presumably that socket will only last two generations. Alder Lake-S is planned for 2021, but would have another socket: lga1700.

Alder Lake-S getting the lga1700 socket is stated on Lit-Tech's website, which sells hardware kits to test power supply. It calls the generation and its associated chipset, where Alder Lake-S stands for lga1700. Lga1200 has only just been introduced and would therefore only last two generations, making a motherboard probably not a long-term investment this time.

After Comet Lake-S, it would still be usable with Rocket Lake-S, which was to come later this year. A bright spot is that the boards here and there support PCIe 4.0 for Rocket Lake-S.

'Intel LGA1200-socket in 2021 alweer vervangen door LGA1700'

Intel bracht nog geen week geleden de lga1200-socket uit voor de nieuwe Comet Lake-S-processors, maar vermoedelijk gaat die socket slechts twee generati...

nl.hardware.info

Assimilator · May 11, 2020

Dual EPS power inputs, stop lying to yourself ASRock, nobody's going to be drawing that much power. Ditto for the VRM fans.

Why is one of the USB 3.0 front panel connectors straight, while the other one right next to it is at 90 degrees? Why is the front panel USB-C connector rotated like that, do you have any idea the amount of stress that will put on the connector and cable?

Placement of the IO panel audio connectors is bizarre. Has ASRock finally given up on the "isolated audio" snake oil?

The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

I'm gonna guess this board's street price will be ~$500. In reality it won't be worth half that.

Blaazen · May 11, 2020

@ The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

Maybe because of this: https://www.techpowerup.com/266335/...ce-rocket-lake-s-2h-2020-production-confirmed

But what's purpose of the M2_4 slot? It's not explained in manual either.

Falkentyne · May 11, 2020

Assimilator said:
Dual EPS power inputs, stop lying to yourself ASRock, nobody's going to be drawing that much power. Ditto for the VRM fans.

Why is one of the USB 3.0 front panel connectors straight, while the other one right next to it is at 90 degrees? Why is the front panel USB-C connector rotated like that, do you have any idea the amount of stress that will put on the connector and cable?

Placement of the IO panel audio connectors is bizarre. Has ASRock finally given up on the "isolated audio" snake oil?

The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

I'm gonna guess this board's street price will be ~$500. In reality it won't be worth half that.

It's going to the case anyway. I don't think that matters since the cable is long enough anyway, especially for cases that route the I/O through the edge of the case first.

AnarchoPrimitiv · May 11, 2020

2.5Gbe is just a marketing gimmick.. There's no 2.5gig ONLY switches, any switch capable of 2.5G is a multigig switch so therefore the switch is capable of 10G so anyone who bought the switch is 99.99% likely going to use it for 10G.

I don't see wide adoption of 2.5g in the marketplace and then stagnation on that for years like with 1gig. I think it'll jump to 10gig based on the growth of nvme SSDs and how more and. Ore motherboards are coming with 10GBase-T ports in them at lower and lower cost every year. At a very minimum, it might be 5 gig as the next "in every home" networking protocol, but I'd rather see 10gig.

evernessince · May 11, 2020

Assimilator said:
Dual EPS power inputs, stop lying to yourself ASRock, nobody's going to be drawing that much power. Ditto for the VRM fans.

Why is one of the USB 3.0 front panel connectors straight, while the other one right next to it is at 90 degrees? Why is the front panel USB-C connector rotated like that, do you have any idea the amount of stress that will put on the connector and cable?

Placement of the IO panel audio connectors is bizarre. Has ASRock finally given up on the "isolated audio" snake oil?

The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

I'm gonna guess this board's street price will be ~$500. In reality it won't be worth half that.

It doesn't matter what CPU gen you look at, top end motherboards are always overbuilt. That said, in general, if the number of phases is increasing and they are adding VRM fans they very likely means power consumption is going up.

Caring1 · May 11, 2020

Assimilator said:
The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

As mentioned in another post, the 2.5Gb Intel part is flawed and effectively runs at 1Gb, this is a hardware fix only so the change to Realtek is necessary .

SL2 · May 11, 2020

evernessince said:
It doesn't matter what CPU gen you look at, top end motherboards are always overbuilt. That said, in general, if the number of phases is increasing and they are adding VRM fans they very likely means power consumption is going up.

That's confirmed AFAIK.

Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall

Reports are flooding the web regarding Intel's total lack of reference to their upcoming Comet Lake family of CPUs, which will be branded under the Intel Core 10000 series. As reports would have it, motherboard makers had stock of LGA 1200 motherboards ready to showcase at CES, but were told to...

www.techpowerup.com

Comet Lake-S may require hefty CPU coolers: Core i9-10900F shown to have a 170 W PL1 (TDP) and 224 W PL2 for a 4.6 GHz all-core boost

It looks like Intel may have hit a hard limit on optimizing the power draws of the upcoming 10th gen Comet Lake-S if a recent stress test leak of the Core i9-10900F is anything to go by. The test shows that the Core i9-10900F has a PL1 of 170 W but requires a PL2 of 224 W to sustain an all-core...

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Assimilator said:
Dual EPS power inputs, stop lying to yourself ASRock, nobody's going to be drawing that much power.

So does Asus, Biostar, EVGA, Gigabyte and MSI.

The Intel Z490 Overview: 44+ Motherboards Examined

www.anandtech.com

deu · May 11, 2020

Assimilator said:
Dual EPS power inputs, stop lying to yourself ASRock, nobody's going to be drawing that much power. Ditto for the VRM fans.

Why is one of the USB 3.0 front panel connectors straight, while the other one right next to it is at 90 degrees? Why is the front panel USB-C connector rotated like that, do you have any idea the amount of stress that will put on the connector and cable?

Placement of the IO panel audio connectors is bizarre. Has ASRock finally given up on the "isolated audio" snake oil?

The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

I'm gonna guess this board's street price will be ~$500. In reality it won't be worth half that.

Asrock generally like putting alot of loco outputs on their boards. It is somewhat their thing!

Gmr_Chick · May 12, 2020

@Black Haru -- I caught an error on the "Packaging & Contents" page:

"The front of the ASRock TRX40 Taichi box is split, with the left side hosting a brushed gray background and the right side featuring the trademark Taichi cogs and gears. "TRX40 Taichi " is in the bottom left, with brand badging below it along the bottom-left edge."

EarthDog · May 12, 2020

Gmr_Chick said:
@Black Haru -- I caught an error on the "Packaging & Contents" page, referring to the board as a "TRX40" twice, rather than Z490

copy/paste will get ya.. I know!

Black Haru · May 12, 2020

Blaazen said:
@ The final poop in the pudding is the use of Realtek 2.5Gb LAN on this supposedly high-end board. Why, when you could have Intel for both ports?

Maybe because of this: https://www.techpowerup.com/266335/...ce-rocket-lake-s-2h-2020-production-confirmed

But what's purpose of the M2_4 slot? It's not explained in manual either.

M2_4 is for future PCIe 4.0 support. I am not sure why a separate slot is necessary, I will try to get more info from ASRock for the full review.

Gmr_Chick said:
@Black Haru -- I caught an error on the "Packaging & Contents" page:

"The front of the ASRock TRX40 Taichi box is split, with the left side hosting a brushed gray background and the right side featuring the trademark Taichi cogs and gears. "TRX40 Taichi " is in the bottom left, with brand badging below it along the bottom-left edge."

Fixed, thanks

EarthDog said:
copy/paste will get ya.. I know!

Every time!

EarthDog · May 12, 2020

Black Haru said:
M2_4 is for future PCIe 4.0 support. I am not sure why a separate slot is necessary, I will try to get more info from

The others arent wired for 4.0. Why they chose different is a great question.

Assimilator said:
Why is one of the USB 3.0 front panel connectors straight, while the other one right next to it is at 90 degrees?

The flat one allows the GPU and the FP 3.0 port to be used. A good design choice IMO.

Edit: wrong board...that's the velocita iirc...no idea... most dont use two?? Lol

Vayra86 · May 12, 2020

What a trainwreck, damn

chodaboy19 · May 12, 2020

Those tiny fans... more noise...

ReHWolution · May 12, 2020

There's a mistake also in the table for VRMs. It's not 12 vCPU + 2 vSOC. It's 12 vCPU + 2 IGPU, therefore it's not a 700 Amps VRM, it's a 600 Amps VRM.

Gmr_Chick · May 13, 2020

chodaboy19 said:
Those tiny fans... more noise...

Annnd the bitch fest continues... :cry:

Black Haru · May 13, 2020

Hades said:
There's a mistake also in the table for VRMs. It's not 12 vCPU + 2 vSOC. It's 12 vCPU + 2 IGPU, therefore it's not a 700 Amps VRM, it's a 600 Amps VRM.

Was intended as total output, but I clarified in all previews for consistency.

gamefoo21 · May 14, 2020

Bah...

What's Asrock doing... DerpMOS stages... You could get away with it on the X570 TaiChi because it was price vs performance. The price tag on the Z490 TaiChi puts it up against better equipped boards...

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