AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

[INFERNUS]

So, it needs to touch me personally, for me to judge if something is right or wrong? (it's a rhetorical question)


They are on top only "product portfolio" wise.
It has had an effect in Desktop CPU DIY market, which is less than 20% of all desktop CPUs sold.

AMD is still ridiculously weak in anything that depends on OEM, which is where the money is, despite having disruptively better product.
Just imagine what happens to them, when that advantage is gone.

Your right, I can imagine when that advantage is gone it will be like when Intel launched the core 2 duo after that AMD never recovered until the launch of the Ryzen 1000 series CPU's. That took over 10yrs.

 

[Pepamami]

It is unbeliavable. X470 meant to be compatible. I would have buy otherwise just a cheap motherboard last summer.

Relax, its fake news (they dont know what to say about support yet), the slide say about ALL FEATURES OF PROCESSOR (like PCI-E 4.0) NOT processor itself. According to slide: u cant use 3900X with A320, or B350, but u CAN, I bet motherboard makers will add 4000 support.

 

[Melvis]

I do not believe the sales for these will be as slow as you think. Even if everyone in this thread complaining about it switched to intel builds its a drop in the bucket compared to overall numbers.

Im not to sure about that, im sure NEW system builders will jump onto it most likely or from Intel side if there running a 3-5yr old PC then yep but for the 2.5yrs of people that are already on the AM4 platform, no way, 90% will not bother at all to jump onto a new Motherboard with that added expensive cost ontop, its just simply not worth it and there are alot of people on AM4 300-400 series mobos out there.

 

[ValenOne]

You can, but what about the other ? My rog Strix B350 cannot. If motherboard makers decided to make it a standard, that wouldn't be an issue, but thats' not the case

Buy B550 with PCI-E 4.0 for PEG slot and NVMe. Next-generation game consoles are PCI-E 4.0 based systems.

 

[Melvis]

This is exactly what I mean! Couldnt agree more with this video!

 

[bug]

This is exactly what I mean! Couldnt agree more with this video!

Once again: did it read "Ryzen 4000 supported" on the box when you bought it?
Non-existing products are unsupported by default, you cannot blame AMD for your wishful thinking (even if they sorta encouraged it).

 

[medi01]

Correct why does your opinon matter when you don't even own a AM4 board. The decision made by AMD doesn't affect you at all.

The only users that have a legit bone to pick here are AM4 users on boards that are not supported.

You don't need to own something from a company, to figure its practices are shitty.
Like in this case, when AMD hinted and explicitly stated something, which it failed to support.

If you have a problem with that, it might help to a bathroom and repeat "it's fine, if people disagree with me" 100 times.

 

[Octopuss]

From what I've been told, there is no X670.

Also, if those board images are of actual B550 boards, there's going to be sooooooooo much consumer confusion, as half of the slots are never going to be usable, based on the PCIe lane count of the platform. I think this is a poorly done job by the board makers.

What the hell, really? Half the reason I haven't upgraded to Zen2 was this chipset and the fucking fans on it. I hoped whatever refresh might come out, they would design in better to get rid of this.

 

[TheLostSwede]

What the hell, really? Half the reason I haven't upgraded to Zen2 was this chipset and the fucking fans on it. I hoped whatever refresh might come out, they would design in better to get rid of this.

It's not a design issue, it's a production node issue if anything. Move to smaller node might solve that, as it should bring the thermals down.

 

[Makaveli]

You don't need to own something from a company, to figure its practices are shitty.
Like in this case, when AMD hinted and explicitly stated something, which it failed to support.

If you have a problem with that, it might help to a bathroom and repeat "it's fine, if people disagree with me" 100 times.

No you don't need to own it however your opinion carries more weight when you do.

In your case I would be more concerned about updating your 10 year old intel rig for security purposes than what amd is doing for board compatibility.

 

[Xzibit]

This is exactly what I mean! Couldnt agree more with this video!

They also have skin in the game because they kept recommending B450 and earlier gen boards to no end in hopes of longevity.

Thanks for taking our advise now that it turned out to be not so good advise.

 

[Melvis]

Once again: did it read "Ryzen 4000 supported" on the box when you bought it?
Non-existing products are unsupported by default, you cannot blame AMD for your wishful thinking (even if they sorta encouraged it).

It doesnt say on any box so what the heck are you talking about?

You clearly didnt see the video did you? or you wouldnt of made such a silly post!

 

[Countryside]

Its astoundingly stunning how many people here see this as its nothing and think that everyone else is overreacting well that's what you get when a big problem for most is a small fan on chipset.

 

[Octopuss]

What problem are you talking about? 15 pages is a lot, something horrible must have happened.

 

[djisas]

Its astoundingly stunning how many people here see this as its nothing and think that everyone else is overreacting well that's what you get when a big problem for most is a small fan on chipset.

And now some of the fancy new intel mb's are shipping with not one, not two, but three vrm fans, at least asrock is doing it, those new intel chips will be hell to cool...

 

[bug]

It doesnt say on any box so what the heck are you talking about?

You clearly didnt see the video did you? or you wouldnt of made such a silly post!

What are you talking about? You know very well you're just venting, if you truly thought you were cheated, you'd be taking this to a lawyer, not an internet forum

 

[Melvis]

What are you talking about? You know very well you're just venting, if you truly thought you were cheated, you'd be taking this to a lawyer, not an internet forum

Yep that just proves it you didnt watch the Video at all! and you clearly have no clue what your talking about or what the issues are, go back and read and watch and you might learn something, till then dont bother posting and wasting peoples time when you havent bothered to learn!

 

[Parn]

Looks like AMD is going to employ the same strategy as Intel, 2 gens of CPUs max per chipset. AMD is winning the x86 CPU battle and gaining market share. So this has come at no surprise.

 

[EarthDog]

What problem are you talking about? 15 pages is a lot, something horrible must have happened.

The pure, kind, patron saint AMD took off her veil to spite all the loyal followers?

The law has a term for this... bait and switch.

 

[bug]

Yep that just proves it you didnt watch the Video at all! and you clearly have no clue what your talking about or what the issues are, go back and read and watch and you might learn something, till then dont bother posting and wasting peoples time when you havent bothered to learn!

Of course I didn't watch the video, I was just trying to see whether you have a point on your own.

 

[specopsFI]

They also have skin in the game because they kept recommending B450 and earlier gen boards to no end in hopes of longevity.

Thanks for taking our advise now that it turned out to be not so good advise.

Very true. And why did they recommend B450's? Because there was nothing better in the market to recommend (for the majority of their audience). And why did they think B450's had longevity? Because AMD has been selling the whole platform with longevity. And MSI went as far as to launch a whole series of B450 MAX motherboards, marketing them as future proof products.

So where did HWU do wrong?

 

[Melvis]

Of course I didn't watch the video, I was just trying to see whether you have a point on your own.

My point is the video! and what ive been saying all along, but since you STILL dont get it, just move on bud! and go to another forum page that is a little bit more toned down for you to understand! thank you!

 

[sepheronx]

Looks like AMD is going to employ the same strategy as Intel, 2 gens of CPUs max per chipset. AMD is winning the x86 CPU battle and gaining market share. So this has come at no surprise.

Technically AMD did 3 so far, so 1 ahead of Intel. Not that I fully agree with their claim and all but still.

 

[bug]

My point is the video! and what ive been saying all along, but since you STILL dont get it, just move on bud! and go to another forum page that is a little bit more toned down for you to understand! thank you!

Ah, my bad. I thought that was the poster's point. Do I feel silly now...

 

[Rocketboy]

This is no longer possible as the 3000 series and 4000 series are good enough to crush each other (zen3 old card support). Because pricing has become difficult.