System Name | RiseZEN Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans |
Memory | G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G |
Storage | Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p |
Case | Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case |
Audio Device(s) | SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x Power Supply |
Mouse | Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition |
Benchmark Scores | I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming... |
Well it's going to be a PR nightmare for AMD and deservingly so. I wonder if there will be a last minute strategy to actually support all Socket AM4 x370/x470 chipsets after all?It's also not supporting X470, but I'm still not going to burn AMD to the stake for that
AMD shot themselves in the foot because now more people will realize they may not be the dreamy company they paint themselves to be: they did not shy away from making vague/borderline misleading statements, first chance they got. But that's AMD's problem to deal with.
P0000pp00p0B550 is impossibly late for Zen 2. It's about time for end-of-support and shelf life for Zen 2, if one doesn't count the new desktop APUs.
There is no such thing Zen 3+.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
May I suggest https://translate.google.com ? It's less brutal on the English language.P0000pp00p0
OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic
System Name | RiseZEN Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans |
Memory | G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G |
Storage | Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p |
Case | Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case |
Audio Device(s) | SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x Power Supply |
Mouse | Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition |
Benchmark Scores | I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming... |
Interesting, you make it sound like the ZEN2 series is garbage? or am I not reading your post correctly?P0000pp00p0
OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic
There is no such thing Zen 3+.
B550 is impossibly late for Zen 2. It's about time for end-of-support and shelf life for Zen 2, if one doesn't count the new desktop APUs.
System Name | The Captain (2.0) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 7700X |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X670E-A |
Cooling | 280mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II, 4x Be Quiet! 140mm Silent Wings 4 (1x exhaust 3x intake) |
Memory | 32GB (2x16) Kingston Fury Beast CL30 6000MT/s |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX 3070 SUPRIM X |
Storage | 1x Crucial MX500 500GB SSD; 1x Crucial MX500 500GB M.2 SSD; 1x WD Blue HDD, 1x Crucial P5 Plus |
Display(s) | Aorus CV27F 27" 1080p 165Hz |
Case | Phanteks Evolv X (Anthracite Gray) |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 1000W 80-Plus Gold |
Mouse | Varies based on mood/task; is currently Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or Razer Cobra Pro |
Keyboard | Varies based on mood; currently Razer Blackwidow V4 75% and Hyper X Alloy 65 |
P0000pp00p0
OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
Maybe, juuuuuust maybe, there is hope yet...
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Although it will be nice if they actually get at least 400 series boards to be compatible with Zen 3, it makes me facepalm the amount of trouble/loss of reputation that AMD went through because of all this fiasco.
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
If AMD works something out this will all be forgotten.
System Name | Eula |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 7900X PBO |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming X670E Plus Wifi |
Cooling | Corsair H150i Elite LCD XT White |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 64GB (4x16GB F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR) EXPO II, OCCT Tested |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 GAMING OC |
Storage | Corsair MP600 XT NVMe 2TB, Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2TB, Toshiba N300 10TB HDD, Seagate Ironwolf 4T HDD |
Display(s) | Acer Predator X32FP 32in 160Hz 4K FreeSync/GSync DP, LG 32UL950 32in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP |
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB White |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000 Platinum 1000W |
Mouse | SteelSeries Prime Pro Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | SteelSeries Apex 5 |
Software | MS Windows 11 Pro |
I know that I said earlier that I was going to back out of this thread but I'm just going to leave this here...
Got to love the thumbnail pic for this one. Steve, you're hilarious.
Give 400 series motherboard a proper exit.If AMD works something out this will all be forgotten.
System Name | Lenovo ThinkCentre |
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Processor | AMD 5650GE |
Motherboard | Lenovo |
Memory | 32 GB DDR4 |
Display(s) | AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz |
Mouse | Lenovo |
Keyboard | Lenovo |
Software | W11 Pro 64 bit |
What's your point?
Hardware Unboxed compares AM4 socket support to Intel's socket LGA1151.
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
Yet Intel releases a new board for literally every generation of CPU these days. I think you're overestimating the backlash. Don't forget, the squeaky wheel is always the loudest. People complain about something wrong more than they compliment when something goes right.Well it's going to be a PR nightmare for AMD and deservingly so.
Forgiven? I'd say yes (mostly), but forgotten? Never.
And honestly, if they are working something out, why didn't they work it out earlier? Or at least said so before? It would have saved them all the unnecessary consumer outrage.
System Name | Eula |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 7900X PBO |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming X670E Plus Wifi |
Cooling | Corsair H150i Elite LCD XT White |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 64GB (4x16GB F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR) EXPO II, OCCT Tested |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 GAMING OC |
Storage | Corsair MP600 XT NVMe 2TB, Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2TB, Toshiba N300 10TB HDD, Seagate Ironwolf 4T HDD |
Display(s) | Acer Predator X32FP 32in 160Hz 4K FreeSync/GSync DP, LG 32UL950 32in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP |
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB White |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000 Platinum 1000W |
Mouse | SteelSeries Prime Pro Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | SteelSeries Apex 5 |
Software | MS Windows 11 Pro |
My point, AMD's PR nightmare for hypocrisy.What's your point?
Intel kept the same socket, but CPU's had to be changed.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
---|---|
Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Well, AMD has been the darling of the Internet for a few years, so the reaction is not unexpected. Mind you, they haven't done anything wrong. But had they handled/communicated this with a little more sensitivity, it wouldn't have eroded public's goodwill as much.It's super weird reading forum users so widely defend AMD's decision regarding this issue. What exactly would any of you have lost, if AMD decided to actually follow through in properly supporting AM4? I can't think of a single thing. AMD could have done it, it would have required them and the MB vendors to do some extra work, made both the new CPU market and the second-hand component market more flexible... and that's basically all. So where are the negatives of that scenario, and where do your internal arguments for the decision to artificially cut the support stem from?
The only reason I can see to support the decision is for having a stake in AMD, either professionally, financially or emotionally. Could you please enlighten me, if you have a technical reason? Haven't seen any yet.
System Name | System V |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus Prime X570-P |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs) |
Memory | 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36) |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB |
Storage | SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 22MP55 IPS Display |
Case | NZXT Source 210 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G430 Headset |
Power Supply | Corsair CX650M |
Software | Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time. |
Benchmark Scores | Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624 |
Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
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Motherboard | MSI B450M Mortar Max |
Cooling | SPC Fortis 3 |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 2x8 |
Video Card(s) | Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Twin X2 |
Storage | Lexar Pro NM760 1 TB, Corsair MP510 960 GB |
Display(s) | Dell G2724D |
Case | be quiet! Pure Base 500 |
Power Supply | EVGA G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech G500 |
Keyboard | SPC Gear GK550 Omnis Kailh Brown RGB |
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
But see, that says 2020. Which year is it now? So unless AMD releases the 4000-series this year, they told the truth...
"Upgrade your processor without buying a new motherboard".
How so?Not my problem since I don't own B450 and X470.
AMD Community | AMD
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MSI is in legal hot water.
System Name | Eula |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 7900X PBO |
Motherboard | ASUS TUF Gaming X670E Plus Wifi |
Cooling | Corsair H150i Elite LCD XT White |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 64GB (4x16GB F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR) EXPO II, OCCT Tested |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 GAMING OC |
Storage | Corsair MP600 XT NVMe 2TB, Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 2TB, Toshiba N300 10TB HDD, Seagate Ironwolf 4T HDD |
Display(s) | Acer Predator X32FP 32in 160Hz 4K FreeSync/GSync DP, LG 32UL950 32in 4K HDR FreeSync/G-Sync DP |
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB White |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster Z |
Power Supply | Corsair HX1000 Platinum 1000W |
Mouse | SteelSeries Prime Pro Gaming Mouse |
Keyboard | SteelSeries Apex 5 |
Software | MS Windows 11 Pro |
But see, that says 2020. Which year is it now? So unless AMD releases the 4000-series this year, they told the truth...
How so?
Matisse 2 is still coming later this year which will work just fine.
System Name | Overlord Mk MLI |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets |
Memory | 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS |
Storage | 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000 |
Display(s) | Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Virtuoso SE |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Max |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w |
Argument? I was asking how MSI was in legal hot water, as AMD has Matisse 2 lined up for later this year.
MSI stated support for all future AM4 products.Argument? I was asking how MSI was in legal hot water, as AMD has Matisse 2 lined up for later this year.
System Name | PCGR |
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Processor | 12400f |
Motherboard | Asus ROG STRIX B660-I |
Cooling | Stock Intel Cooler |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR5 5600 Corsair |
Video Card(s) | Dell RTX 3080 |
Storage | 1x 512GB Mmoment PCIe 3 NVME 1x 2TB Corsair S70 |
Display(s) | LG 32" 1440p |
Case | Phanteks Evolve itx |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | 750W Cooler Master sfx |
Software | Windows 11 |