Distant Blips on the AMD Roadmap Surface: Rembrandt and Raphael

[watzupken]

But it doesn't support new features. APUs should be one generation architecture ahead, not years behind.
RDNA2 is coming during the next few months for desktop.

APU gaming performance is still extremely poor.
The APUs are not second category products for consumers in Africa in the poorest regions.

I don't disagree that it will be great to have good performance on APUs. But unfortunately, iGPU are normally not something of great priority based on historical trend. These are typically made to give budget gamer with a set gaming experience. So I am not expecting any companies to throw in all the graphic bells and whistles. In this case, AMD have already provided a 1 up minimal viable product for some decent budget gaming. If you look at Intel UHD, it is only a MVP if you are using it for office work and watching shows.

Also, we generally see a significant boost in performance with faster memory standards, and I feel this gen is pretty much capped by the speed of DDR4 now. Till DDR5 appears, I feel there will be little improvement in performance due to memory bottleneck and giving it cutting edge technology may actually cause performance to regress.

 

[ARF]

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD’s Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD's Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

The latest performance numbers for Intel's Tiger Lake CPUs featuring Xe graphics have leaked, outperforming AMD's 7nm Vega GPU on Ryzen 4000.

wccftech.com

 

[cucker tarlson]

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD’s Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD's Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

The latest performance numbers for Intel's Tiger Lake CPUs featuring Xe graphics have leaked, outperforming AMD's 7nm Vega GPU on Ryzen 4000.

wccftech.com

good,finally we can cheer for intel to close the gap and actually come on top,competition is good.

 

[watzupken]

Link with benchmarks ?

3 times but in a virtual reality.

How many Intel laptops sold actually runs the top end UHD 11? Unfortunately, I feel most are still using UHD 9 or 9.5 whatever they call it. Even in the chart, the supposed "bad" Vega graphics is still beating Intel's best very comfortably in 5 out of 7 games on this chart, even if I write DOTA 2 as a tie. Plus, I have a octa core processor with AMD vs a quad core Intel chip. AMD for me anytime man.

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD’s Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

Intel Tiger Lake With Xe Graphics Outperforms AMD's Fastest 7nm Vega Integrated GPU

The latest performance numbers for Intel's Tiger Lake CPUs featuring Xe graphics have leaked, outperforming AMD's 7nm Vega GPU on Ryzen 4000.

wccftech.com

Likewise, I am happy to see Intel getting more competitive in GPU space. I think the GPU space is in dire need for a competitor with deep pocket.

As for Tiger Lake, I will take whatever rumors with a bunch of salt till I see the actual gaming performance. A lot of rumors of benchmarks that are highly optimized, and not reflective of actual game play performance.

 

[ARF]

How many Intel laptops sold actually runs the top end UHD 11? Unfortunately, I feel most are still using UHD 9 or 9.5 whatever they call it. Even in the chart, the supposed "bad" Vega graphics is still beating Intel's best very comfortably in 5 out of 7 games on this chart, even if I write DOTA 2 as a tie. Plus, I have a octa core processor with AMD vs a quad core Intel chip. AMD for me anytime man.



Likewise, I am happy to see Intel getting more competitive in GPU space. I think the GPU space is in dire need for a competitor with deep pocket.

As for Tiger Lake, I will take whatever rumors with a bunch of salt till I see the actual gaming performance. A lot of rumors of benchmarks that are highly optimized, and not reflective of actual game play performance.

AMD for you is ok. I am not against that. I am against gaming at low settings and waving the slides as if AMD achieved something super.
It's ugly. I am calling them to make proper integrated graphics.

Running CS Source or GO at lowest settings with 60 FPS is not ok..

 

[cucker tarlson]

I am against gaming at low settings

then don't buy an apu

 

[ARF]

then don't buy an apu

There is no other option for the consumers for notebooks in a checked budget.

It would be nice to run at least some games with the integrated graphics but unfortunately the games must always switch to the discrete.

 

[cucker tarlson]

There is no other option for the consumers for notebooks in a checked budget.

what are you talking about nvidia's laptop cards run about everything and they come in every segment from 1650 to 2080

 

[ARF]

what are you talking about nvidia's laptop cards run about everything and they come in every segment from 1650 to 2080

This is true and I was about to say it - AMD intends to abandon the graphics market altogether.

Their graphics products proposals are not serious.

I said it - they have very low market share with a trend to only worsen.

 

[cucker tarlson]

please stop listening to stupid youtube channels

amd aren't going anywhere

 

[kapone32]

This is true and I was about to say it - AMD intends to abandon the graphics market altogether.

Their graphics products proposals are not serious.

I said it - they have very low market share with a trend to only worsen.

That is a very dangerous statement.

 

[SL2]

please stop listening to stupid youtube channels

As if that's going to happen.

Some people are more into confirmation bias than others.

 

[cucker tarlson]

As if that's going to happen.

Some people are more into confirmation bias than others.

then it's entirely on themselves that they feel disappointed all the time.

 

[SL2]

AMD Warhol, yes, a reused codename, popped up as the successor to Vermeer, just a rumor of course. This would make 2021 less empty I guess.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1265864700526424065