AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT Benchmarks Surface

[cucker tarlson]

Just an example. I could bring others but what's the point? You don't even believe XT models exist. It's not my duty to convince you or others otherwise. You believe what you want to believe and i believe what i want.

lol,where did I say that ?

 

[Chrispy_]

I only pulled you up on it because you used it as evidence that you knew EXACTLY what was coming.

Maybe you'll be right and the rumours are true, but you have no definite proof yet, which is what you were implying.

 

[Tomorrow]

lol,where did I say that ?

Well it's a rumor and you implied you don't believe rumors. So why believe XT exists but not believe 4,8Ghz clocks?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Well it's a rumor and you implied you don't believe rumors. So why believe XT exists but not believe 4,8Ghz clocks?

can I believe in an XT series but with clocks other than 4.8GHz exactly ? are we allowed to take amd rumors with a grain of salt or is it full steam hype train all over again ?

 

[Tomorrow]

 

[cucker tarlson]

lol,MLID,that explains a lot

 

[Tomorrow]

lol,MLID,that explains a lot

What exactly does that explain?

 

[cucker tarlson]

mostly,your devotion to believing rumors.

 

[BoboOOZ]

Tom is a very legit source with his own good sources.

FWIW, he had talked about this Matisse refresh about 2 months ago, saying about exactly what we know today, excepting exact single-thread performance.

Edit to add: exact clocks and naming can be changed at the very last minute, though, so we shouldn't dwell on that too much.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Tom is a very legit source with his own good sources.

FWIW, he had talked about this Matisse refresh about 2 months ago, saying about exactly what we know today, excepting exact single thread performance.

we know nothing today except there is a refresh coming

 

[Kapone33]

The only thing we know for sure is nothing. At the very least one can surmise that if (when) these CPUs are launched they will be looking at AMD's only arguable weakness compared to Intel. Until we have real Gaming benchmarks we cannot speak to the relevance of these CPUs. If and when they release there will be so many choices for a system build from both companies, with most being 6+ cores. It's too bad we have COVID-19 because 2020 would (and may still be) the year of the Desktop with much love from AMD, NVIDIA, ASUS, ASrock, MSI,GIGABYTE and Intel for x86.

 

[BoboOOZ]

we know nothing today except there is a refresh coming

You and I might not have the exact definition of "knowing", for me 95% probability is enough. There have been enough leaks coming from different sources to make it a very solid rumor. YMMV, of course.
I'm not trying to join your debate, I was only trying to point out that I consider Moore's Law is dead to be a very reliable source.

 

[cucker tarlson]

You and I might not have the exact definition of "knowing", for me 95% probability is enough. There have been enough leaks coming from different sources to make it a very solid rumor. YMMV, of course.
I'm not trying to join your debate, I was only trying to point out that I consider Moore's Law is dead to be a very reliable source.

how exaclty did you come up with those numbers ? 95% ? 4800mhz ?

 

[Vorado]

Well someting is odd on the 2 screens from 3d mark the cpus has lower speeds compared to CB20 screens -3900xt has 4.1 GHz and 4.8 GHz boost and 3800XT has 4.2 and 4.7 boost , a 3900x with 3.8GHz will not score 542 singlecore

 

[Tomorrow]

mostly,your devotion to believing rumors.

History has shown most tech rumors (especially if they come from reputable and multiple sources) to be quite accurate in the end. Ofcourse i could choose to ignore everything and live in ignorance but i would rather choose to believe a rumor and for that rumor to end up inaccurate or false rather than living in pure ignorance.

I often compare i to sport: there too fans speculate about transfers, results etc. For hardware enthusiast this is the closest analogue. Without real life betting of cource (god forbid someone starts gambling with money).

 

[cucker tarlson]

is waiting for the actual product same as living in ignorance to you

 

[Tomorrow]

is waiting for the actual product same as living in ignorance to you

By ignorance i mean people who buy a product only to discover days/weeks later that a better/cheaper whatever replacement just launched. I don't mean people on tech forums commenting on rumors about upcoming products. Obviously WE already know something is coming. We may not know the EXACT details but we know more than most people.

 

[BoboOOZ]

we know nothing today except there is a refresh coming

The only thing we know for sure is nothing.

I think you guys should settle your differences first

 

[cucker tarlson]

We may not know the EXACT details

not what you are claiming
mlid told you very exact rumors,and when has a youtube rumor channel been wrong

 

[Kapone33]

I think you guys should settle your differences first

I am not trying to argue with anyone. I just posted my thoughts on the thread.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I'd buy R9 3900XT just for the name.

 

[Tomorrow]

not what you are claiming
mlid told you very exact rumors,and when has a youtube rumor channel been wrong

I never claimed to know exact details. Does not mean i believe everything MLID or someone says all the time. But i do take note. I don't brush it aside just because a "wrong" person said it. Like some people can't comprehend that it's equally possible to watch and enjoy a lighthearted LTT video and a highly technical GN video and be a subscriber to both. Some people these days take things too black and white.

 

[EarthDog]

Well someting is odd on the 2 screens from 3d mark the cpus has lower speeds compared to CB20 screens -3900xt has 4.1 GHz and 4.8 GHz boost and 3800XT has 4.2 and 4.7 boost , a 3900x with 3.8GHz will not score 542 singlecore

...or that's just how those programs read things... differently.

 

[Vayra86]

seems like it's just the same cpu with a new number and price (?) new ryzens 3000 manufactured this year have already been doing 200mhz more.

Nowszy = lepszy? Sprawdzamy czy nowe procesory Ryzen 3000 są lepsze

Procesory Ryzen 3000 są dostępne w sprzedaży już od kilkunastu miesięcy i przez ten czas zdążyły zdominować rynek komputerów PC. Najlepsze jest to, że układy wcale się nie zestarzały. Mało tego! Wychodzi na to, że nowe sztuki są nawet lepsze od pierwszych rewizji.

www.benchmark.pl

so I don't know what our editor means by BUSY

Perhaps the story underneath that is the sustained boost overall, and not so much the peak of it. We already know Ryzen is not particularly the highest clocking arch, but very strong at maximizing within power budget.

But yeah when I hear marketing around 'gaming CPU' I get that same yucky feeling as marketing a 'Creator CPU'. Its BS. Performance is what it is.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I think a glanced over aspect of this rumour is IF AMD can regain a competitive stance on Ryzen 3### with higher clocks on cores and a much more significant boost to infinity fabric upto 2000Mhz rumoured, all.

Without removing too much performance viability from a future zen3 launch that's very effin close then zen 3 must be killer.