Intel Core i3-10100

[ppn]

10100F is not officially listed, it may have been cancelled.

 

[btarunr]

This should be emphasized very strongly. The only case where 10100 makes any sense is for a budget build, which means b460 tops = 2666 MT/s RAM tops.

Everyone should focus on the 2666 MT/s performance in order not to get disappointed, or mislead others.

Intel increased the maximum memory clock to 2933 MHz for the B460. The older gen B365 had that 2667 MHz limitation. So if you have a capable CPU, you can use 2933 MHz modules on a B460 platform.

 

[Mussels]

Intel increased the maximum memory clock to 2933 MHz for the B460. The older gen B365 had that 2667 MHz limitation. So if you have a capable CPU, you can use 2933 MHz modules on a B460 platform.

Didn't i see that written only for i7/i9, with i3/i5 stuck at 2667?

 

[1d10t]

Didn't i see that written only for i7/i9, with i3/i5 stuck at 2667?

I'm currently review - testing ASRock B460 , and I can confirm most if not few motherboard maker "unofficially" support RAM speed beyond PC21333.

 

[Mussels]

I'm currently review - testing ASRock B460 , and I can confirm most if not few motherboard maker "unofficially" support RAM speed beyond PC21333.

Ahah, good to know how that holds up.

I vaguelly recall similar issues back in the days when i had DDR3 2400 ram, and all my 2000/3000/4000 CPU's behaved totally differently with support, from caps at 1866 to 2133, and finally the 4770k going all the way up (even on Z boards, they had limits)

I much prefer the simpler generations with "X supported, good luck with the rest" and no artificial caps

 

[Lucas_]

still games not utilizing cpu's I guess .
or cpu's are far ahead that game could not utilize anything more.

 

[bug]

still games not utilizing cpu's I guess .
or cpu's are far ahead that game could not utilize anything more.

Unlike encoders/decoders and renderers, most applications can't use any number of cores easily. Imho, one should be pragmatic when choosing a CPU for gaming. Buying a 12c/24t part for gaming and then moaning that the developers are lazy because they don't use them all is a little counter-productive.
That doesn't mean a 12c/24t part isn't needed in some instances. For example, Linus Torvalds had recently moved to a Threadripper for his kernel related stuff. And instantly reaped the rewards

 

[btb]

How come the 10th gen intels idles so much higher than last gen? I mean this one idles at 48 W and something like the i5-9400F idles at 41 W pr the chart.

 

[bug]

How come the 10th gen intels idles so much higher than last gen? I mean this one idles at 48 W and something like the i5-9400F idles at 41 W pr the chart.

Power draw in the review id for the whole system. This is tested with a Z490, something that is both more power hungry and unlikely to be seen in the wild.

 

[low351]

One thing unmentionned, I bought a z490 motherboard and 3200Mhz ram and paired it with the i3-10100 because I wanted to save some money now and be able to upgrade the CPU later, if I had purchased 2666Mhz and another chipset that would have made the purchase of a 10700k later on senseless. This way I have a upgrade ready setup, I didn't have the $500-600 cdn for a higher cpu right now and the i3-10100 is an upgrade from my current i7-3770k anyhow.

 

[RandallFlagg]

One thing unmentionned, I bought a z490 motherboard and 3200Mhz ram and paired it with the i3-10100 because I wanted to save some money now and be able to upgrade the CPU later, if I had purchased 2666Mhz and another chipset that would have made the purchase of a 10700k later on senseless. This way I have a upgrade ready setup, I didn't have the $500-600 cdn for a higher cpu right now and the i3-10100 is an upgrade from my current i7-3770k anyhow.

This is what a lot of enthusiasts are doing. I have an i5-10400 but plan to upgrade to Rocket Lake when that comes out, assuming it is superior. That's why I didn't just go for a 10700 right off.

From what I see out in OEM space right now - and main reason I built my own - is that pretty much any OEM box is going to run slower memory and hobbled chipsets. This includes AMD OEM systems, you'll find most of them running 2400, 2666, and 3000 (i.e. 2933). This is logical as technically any RAM over 2933 is overclocked, and OEMs are going to be all about reliability so they don't have to pay for tech support on a cheap PC. However, you can see in various benchmarks that faster RAM makes a big difference.

 

[smegun]

asus pro w480ace /490 chipset intell i3 10100 vengence 3600 muskin pilot M.2

i bought into an intell system to match the series ive had for the last 10 years a WS board there were only duration limit changes no overclocking and a lot of slots ... i had a i7k and 1600 mushkin black ram but couldnt get the use of a xmp

figured i was shooting for 5 gigahertz this time i got the xmp ram specifically fired it up with XMP loaded up the os and played eternal for a while after a few more tweaks and reboots my system took a dump at the log in screen ... i managed to GPT my migration drive did a bios flash and a eufi only system boot sequence nothing to save my aging hardrive back up .... benching was good at higher ram speeds but there are actually a few frames less in eternal and slowly i start to see more flakes from the system

not to fond of auto tweek /optimum putting everything into two settings AS XMP has its lack of luster but there are a myraid of power settings on the board twek/ performance mode and extreme power settings to get this right

overclocking the front side bus had its consequences in the past ..similar here leads to distablization of the OS i must of forgot to legacy that thought they would of changed that by now giving independance to clocking the ram

optimal sets it at jedec giving you only a performance setting to which i assume is duration limits

....tried to marginally up the voltage to support the load on the 65 watt proc but it usually ends up with a crash bios or hang almost positive the problem only exists for the extended chipset and devices currently because i ran tests that show improvement originally and before we speak

compute polling rather than misses dont GPT your drives mysteriously from a bios call

extensively i wouldnt mind to further on the attempt / blck numbers willing to try the system again i see from the article that the traditional memory controller is absent wish i knew that before starting but hey maybe thats why it booted states ddr 7800 in the drop down means there prepared to be laughed at ....maybe there was time from the intial launch to include a microcode update maybe it cant do that without a proper energy bill ill probly try a newer power supply ....

..... eternal with metrics tells me that im a few frames short at xmp so there is no need from xmp but ill bet if i did get all the settings right there will be stable improvement ill probably study up on the duration limits also or just set it at no limits in the tweaker if i recall sandy wasnt prone to fail on tdp its been 10 years give me a consideration its nice there is xmp but not exaclty a fond believer

i see here the article stating + blck 103 extended settings so there may be a chance to make this better

getting all kinds of funky amd grafics info back during trials one states 20 the other states 405 fps it runs eternal better setting back the jedec frequency but doesnt seem to change the problem of system instability and i havent stepped through all the way back to jedec yet

back on stock jedec for now now

anyone know anything about system agent or CHM for legacy ? anyway did anyone GPT there drive

using amd pro series driver the blue one on glitch your in cant see a GPT drive or install windows to a GPT partition ? get the latest iso UNcheck the box for your system .... the usb flash drive will now be state in the bios as GPT boot device eufi is asking the question im putting a stamp on it vid cards need it systems need it hard drives need it boot to eufi external is a sign