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King of Consumer Solid State Storage: Amazon Lists 8 TB Samsung 870 QVO-Series SATA III SSD

SATA and QLC? No thanks.

To the person that said M.2 drives need a heatsiink - mostly not and mostly only thermal when you're running benchmarks or if you have a very hot case, in whiich case you probably should sort that out to benefit all your other system components.

I think QLC and SMR should die already. They are just manufactures shovelling their crap at the consumers because they are cheap to produce. They are actually not that much cheaper for the customer in the end, so manufactures benefit.

For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
 
Owen1982 said:
For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
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I do have the important stuff in the cloud as well. The stuff on the Nas is the "Cbf to re-download" storage.
The drives I have are enterprise Hitachi SATA drives that were in storage before we moved to SAS. Although, nothing is fool proof.
 
lexluthermiester said:
The indutry is going to need to come up with a breakthrough in both durability and capacity before it will truly replace HDD's
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Isolinear chips.. ...they is a comin to a 'puter near you soon...and sooner than you think, hehehe :)
 
Owen1982 said:
SATA and QLC? No thanks.

To the person that said M.2 drives need a heatsiink - mostly not and mostly only thermal when you're running benchmarks or if you have a very hot case, in whiich case you probably should sort that out to benefit all your other system components.

I think QLC and SMR should die already. They are just manufactures shovelling their crap at the consumers because they are cheap to produce. They are actually not that much cheaper for the customer in the end, so manufactures benefit.

For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
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A large 8TB QLC SATA drive at $900 USD is a niche product not meant for widespread adoption. SATA is also understandable when the flash memory packages would not physically fit on any M.2 form factors.
 
Owen1982 said:
SATA and QLC? No thanks.

To the person that said M.2 drives need a heatsiink - mostly not and mostly only thermal when you're running benchmarks or if you have a very hot case, in whiich case you probably should sort that out to benefit all your other system components.

I think QLC and SMR should die already. They are just manufactures shovelling their crap at the consumers because they are cheap to produce. They are actually not that much cheaper for the customer in the end, so manufactures benefit.

For the person that said they have a NAS with RAID 5 back-up (I just re-read the comment, I think I mis-read but I will leave the following for anyone that wants to read it) - RAID5 isn't a backup. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but it just means your array can survive a failed disk. But when you want to rebuild the array it will really stress your other drives. And they were probably bought at the same time so... will they survive the stress of the rebuild? If you really want your data to survive I would sync to another storage platform, different vender, HDDs, filesystem... location even. I hate subscriptions and I like to have physical access to my data but the unlimited Google Drive (business) for 12 bucks a month ticks alot of those boxes. My 2Cents of course.

2nd Edit: For anyone vaguely interested in 'Backup' - research the 3-2-1 rule :)
Click to expand...
I said what i said mostly because Raid 5 is Dead on Spindles because by the time you Resilver odds are another disk is going to fail. With these SSDs the MTBF is much higher than a spindles which could make Raid5 and Raidz1 useful again. Of course Raid is not a backup and you should use like you stated the 3-2-1 rule. Its just as the prices come down we could utilize the traditional methods for Nas's.
 
I have zero issues against QLC & upcoming PLC. But just wanted to ask, do the Samsung QVO drives use SLC cache scheme plus RAM or just RAM?
 
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