AMD RDNA2 Graphics Architecture Detailed, Offers +50% Perf-per-Watt over RDNA

[ARF]

Yeah, wccftech seems to take the exact "translation" from https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1588075782.A.C1E.html

AMD will also be like NVIDIA's strategy at Turnig, supporting hardware ray tracing only in higher-order products, lower-order: products that cancel ray tracing but take high efficiency RDNA 2 The architecture design, whose effectiveness or licensing is expected to compete with the NVIDIA: the previously available GTX 16 Series

Navi 23 with its 52 CUs at https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-navi-23.g926 exactly matches the specs of the iGPU of the new Xbox.

50% performance improvement per watt would directly position it somewhere between RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti.

Only Navi 10 and Navi 14 will be left to compete with non-RTX Nvidia cards - Navi 10 would beat GTX 1660 series, while Navi 14 will continue to compete with GTX 1650 series and below.

 

[ARF]

Rumour/leak has it:

 

[R0H1T]

400W TDP, yeah BS

 

[ARF]

400W TDP

True halo, enthusiast part. Even Threadripper 3990X is a single CPU alone draws 280-watts.

This will have GDDR6, not HBM, so the high power is welcome and good for us now.

 

[Space Lynx]

im ok with 400w as long it beats a 2080 ti by 15-20% and costs around $799

 

[Super XP]

im ok with 400w as long it beats a 2080 ti by 15-20% and costs around $799

400W? No thanks, regardless on who releases such a thing.

 

[ARF]

400W? No thanks, regardless on who releases such a thing.

For you there will be Navi 23 with 150-watt and still as fast as RTX 2080 Ti

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I have a gfx that reaches 300w and I have a hard time keeping it below 80c.
I would not want a 400w card. I just wouldn't.

 

[Super XP]

For you there will be Navi 23 with 150-watt and still as fast as RTX 2080 Ti

I have a gfx that reaches 300w and I have a hard time keeping it below 80c.
I would not want a 400w card. I just wouldn't.

Me either,

 

[Space Lynx]

I have a gfx that reaches 300w and I have a hard time keeping it below 80c.
I would not want a 400w card. I just wouldn't.

I mean the only way I would want it is if they invested heavily in a stock cooler that keeps it at 70 celsius in most situation, but yeah I agree with you otherwise

this 2 fan vaporchamber leaked design of the rtx 3080 looks very interesting for example, i bet it could cool 400 watts. all those fins

 

[Super XP]

I mean the only way I would want it is if they invested heavily in a stock cooler that keeps it at 70 celsius in most situation, but yeah I agree with you otherwise

this 2 fan vaporchamber leaked design of the rtx 3080 looks very interesting for example, i bet it could cool 400 watts. all those fins

For new modern technology, that's too much wattage. Which tells me if true, Nvidia has nothing new and are taking a slightly revamped Turing and pumping up the juice then renaming it 3080.

 

[Valantar]

400W can't be cooled effectively in a PCIe form factor in >99% of cases on the market. It simply isn't feasible. Water cooling with a 240mm radiator as stock might work, but that still limits compatibility to a) cases that can fit one, and b) users who don't already have that space taken by their CPU cooling. If a 360mm rad is needed, it is DOA.

So no, this is BS. 400W isn't happening.

 

[ARF]

It had been done previously.

No technical problem or difficulty. Price and performance will be the decisive factors.

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[R0H1T]

Those were dual GPUs, you should know better than to spread such egregious rumors. Slow rumor day for you?

 

[ARF]

Those were dual GPUs, you should know better than to spread such egregious rumors. Slow rumor day for you?

And so what ? The power delivery circuitry obviously doesn't care how many chips you got on the PCB

 

[moproblems99]

im ok with 400w as long it beats a 2080 ti by 15-20% and costs around $799

It better double the performance for nearly double the watts and 2 years later.

 

[R0H1T]

Double as compared to what exactly?

 

[moproblems99]

Those were dual GPUs, you should know better than to spread such egregious rumors. Slow rumor day for you?

Frankly, likely bullshit GPU rumors are still better than real news and reality this year.

Double as compared to what exactly?

See quoted post.

 

[ARF]

See quoted post.

Really ? It will be great if double the performance of the RX 5700 XT at 1080p.

 

[moproblems99]

Really ? It will be great if double the performance of the RX 5700 XT at 1080p.

How would that be impressive? It would basically be two 5700XT, complete with double the power draw. That is not impressive. 400W is a disappointment with any metric unless it has double the performance of 2080 Ti.

 

[ARF]

How would that be impressive?

Are you serious?

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www.techpowerup.com

 

[Master Tom]

I have the Radeon 64 Liquid Cooling. It does not even reach 60°C.

400W? No thanks, regardless on who releases such a thing.

How much does 1 kw/h cost in Greece?

 

[moproblems99]

Are you serious?

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Yes.

If you give me double the wattage then at a minimum I am expecting double the performance. To be impressed, you have to give me double the performance at significantly less than double the wattage or double the wattage and significantly more than double the performance. Besides, if they (AMD) achieve double performance of a 5700XT, then they will be at roughly the expected performance of Ampere...but.....at significantly more power usage. I, for one, don't want to dump 400watts of heat into my office that is already 28C because it is summer. I don't care about the power draw itself, I care about working/gaming in a sauna.

 

[ARF]

Yes.

If you give me double the wattage then at a minimum I am expecting double the performance. To be impressed, you have to give me double the performance at significantly less than double the wattage or double the wattage and significantly more than double the performance. Besides, if they (AMD) achieve double performance of a 5700XT, then they will be at roughly the expected performance of Ampere...but.....at significantly more power usage. I, for one, don't want to dump 400watts of heat into my office that is already 28C because it is summer. I don't care about the power draw itself, I care about working/gaming in a sauna.

RTX 2080 Ti is a 300-watt part. So, you expect 33% higher performance, not double the performance up to 400-watt.

 

[Master Tom]

Besides, if they (AMD) achieve double performance of a 5700XT, then they will be at roughly the expected performance of Ampere...but.....at significantly more power usage. I, for one, don't want to dump 400watts of heat into my office that is already 28C because it is summer. I don't care about the power draw itself, I care about working/gaming in a sauna.

In Germany it so hot in summer, that you need air condition anyway. In winter the i9-9900K and the Radeon Vega 64 Lquid Cooling help heating the room
In which country do you live?