Normal Temperature for an R9 390?

[AsRock]

Put a fan on top of the card 120x25mm fan if it will fit and have it over the GPU area, even to just see if temps drop all that much for you. If it's a reference card the VRM 1 is on the right side of the card and VRM 2 is on the left side (going by your picture).

Did you get one of those brackets ?.

I got better temps removing old fans with the shroud too.


What could all so be happening is that the CPU cooler is pulling more of the air from the GPU too.

During mining craziness my 2 XFX 390X DD
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worked hard with 86-90 C with room temperature about 35-38 C 24/7 whole summer in open stand
so i assume that's ok temps for cards if they well made
only one thing to note: stock coolers was interchanged with a block of 3 high speed 90mm delta fans

Yeah they all so sound like jets too lol.

 

[More Sly]

only one thing to note: stock coolers was interchanged with a block of 3 high speed 90mm delta fans

I'm interested in what you suggested here - how did you replace the housing? Just a bracket like the one @AsRock linked?

Put a fan on top of the card 120x25mm fan if it will fit and have it over the GPU area, even to just see if temps drop all that much for you. If it's a reference card the VRM 1 is on the right side of the card and VRM 2 is on the left side (going by your picture).

Did you get one of those brackets ?.

I got better temps removing old fans with the shroud too.


What could all so be happening is that the CPU cooler is pulling more of the air from the GPU too.

Only the fans so far - I'm in Germany so I'm going to hunt for that bracket today. Three fans like @_UV_ suggested would probably be better. Too bad I bought replacement stock fans at the onset of this.

If the cpu fan is starving it, hopefully another intake will help. I'm going to sway that 120 out for two 140s and add two 140 exhausts to the top.

Still deciding in a vertical GPU mount would help or hurt the airflow. It looks like there's plenty of room in front of my glass so maybe that could help everything distribute a bit.

I'll be giving everything a more thorough clean tonight and update then.

I'm thinking just grabbing this Accelero Xtreme IV is worth it (https://www.arctic.ac/de_en/ax4.html).

 

[AsRock]

Chances are you will not see them any were but ebay.

I use one of those Delta fans already a 92mm on the rear of the case, they surly move a lot of air but at full speed and 2-3 of them WOW i hope the PC is in another room hehe.

As for the Accelero Xtreme IV i been their tried that, in both cases with the 290X and 390X i kept the backplate and the memory\VRM heat sink original. The 290X it was bearly worth doing and for the 390X it was no better at all. If you want to go as far as sticking on those crappy little heat sinks they suppoy with the crap they sell today, well that's up to you.

 

[_UV_]

'm interested in what you suggested here - how did you replace the housing? Just a bracket like the one @AsRock linked?

it was not a suggestion) i simply hold fans together with cable ties and placed them instead of stock cooling fans with frame onto cooler fin

 

[More Sly]

Well, I opened it up and reapplied thermal paste (thank you @xman2007). Guess my application last week sucked. I did the thin spread and I'm not sure why. I've always used the criss-cross previously and went pea dot this time. I've definitely seen an improvement - though the temperature is still hitting 94-degrees. The plus side is that it's taking longer to get there and, though I'm still losing clock speed, it's only going down to mid-900MHz which isn't causing the performance issues I had yesterday.

Not sure how much more I can do to help keep it down, but I'm glad I caught what must have been a bad application of paste. I'll update again when I grab some new fans.

New log attached.


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[_UV_]

as i remember MSI and Asus used non customized coolers for a whole range of cards, and 390 was one of a bad examples
terrible brushed and i assume aluminum heat spreader
look at mine cards

XFX R9 390X Double Dissipation Review - Closer Look (Without Cooler)

In our next review of AMD's R9 390X we take a look at what XFX has to offer in the R9 390X Double Dissipation graphics cards - custom cooled with the all-new Ghost 3.0+ solution.

www.vortez.net

that's how it must be made if you are a bit serious about quality and engineering, not just cost saving and marketing

and your TIM looks inadequate, you need something with less viscosity, i used MX-2, but you need to reapply it every 2 years, because it becomes dry in about that time, no matter how high temperatures was or it was in storage, sure that isn't greatest TIM on market, but it is reliable and easy accessible almost everywhere

 

[AsRock]

 

[AsRock]

Well, I opened it up and reapplied thermal paste (thank you @xman2007). Guess my application last week sucked. I did the thin spread and I'm not sure why. I've always used the criss-cross previously and went pea dot this time. I've definitely seen an improvement - though the temperature is still hitting 94-degrees. The plus side is that it's taking longer to get there and, though I'm still losing clock speed, it's only going down to mid-900MHz which isn't causing the performance issues I had yesterday.

Not sure how much more I can do to help keep it down, but I'm glad I caught what must have been a bad application of paste. I'll update again when I grab some new fans.

New log attached.


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Niice some nice VRM temps too, been planing for a while now to add 2 more fans too the bottom of my case and replace the 200mm fan on the side too on top of that adding a way to flip the PSU so it take's air from the out side and adding a fan at the top (maybe )..

Got a little toasty today although the ambient temps was 33.9c. Pics quality is Steam butchered.

Cpu Cores
CPU fans
CPU Temp

GPU Temp
VRM1
VRM2

Chipset
Chipset fan
FPS

After about 2 hours

3h+ later and thought i would post it as the horse was in the way ha.

Might want to keep a eye on that 12v rail too IF it's showing correctly.

 

[More Sly]

Well, got the fans. Didn't do a ton but I did have a small improvement to my clock speed. It's still dipping to the 900s at 94-degree, but fighting up to 1000 more regularly. Attached log again (just the last two sessions this time).

Thanks for all the help, folks! I'll grab some new TIM in the near future to get some better quality stuff on there - thanks @_UV_. Not sure how much I can do beyond that before replacing the GPU cooling, and at that point I'll probably just go grab an RX 5700 XT. The ol' 390 is getting up there.

Niice some nice VRM temps too, been planing for a while now to add 2 more fans too the bottom of my case and replace the 200mm fan on the side too on top of that adding a way to flip the PSU so it take's air from the out side and adding a fan at the top (maybe )..

Got a little toasty today although the ambient temps was 33.9c. Pics quality is Steam butchered.

Nice! At least you're keeping below 90, unlike some of us... haha

Might want to keep a eye on that 12v rail too IF it's showing correctly.

I'm not too sure what that is to be honest, so I'll go look it up!

 

[AsRock]

Well, got the fans. Didn't do a ton but I did have a small improvement to my clock speed. It's still dipping to the 900s at 94-degree, but fighting up to 1000 more regularly. Attached log again (just the last two sessions this time).

Thanks for all the help, folks! I'll grab some new TIM in the near future to get some better quality stuff on there - thanks @_UV_. Not sure how much I can do beyond that before replacing the GPU cooling, and at that point I'll probably just go grab an RX 5700 XT. The ol' 390 is getting up there.

Nice! At least you're keeping below 90, unlike some of us... haha




I'm not too sure what that is to be honest, so I'll go look it up!

I would still try placing a fan on top of the GPU as seen as you have a back plate you could try the fan facing either way, some thing else i would try to is were your lower fan is at the front place another sucking air from that fan next to the v card PCI-e cable to make sure enough air is getting from the front.

I know and understand you want it to look clean as possible but iif you try the idea's and they work maybe you will get a idea what your happy with.

As for that bracket on ebay might pick one of those up for the other system as the eVga fans are faling on that AGAIN, cheap ass sleeve crap.


Well a Seasonic i had to send back a few years ago ( i believe ), when i told Seasonic the issue and what the 12v rail was reading before shutting down or rebooting ask me to send it back to them. They said any thing lower than 11.20 was not acceptable.

12v rail is your v card main power source.

 

[xman2007]

Well, got the fans. Didn't do a ton but I did have a small improvement to my clock speed. It's still dipping to the 900s at 94-degree, but fighting up to 1000 more regularly. Attached log again (just the last two sessions this time).

Thanks for all the help, folks! I'll grab some new TIM in the near future to get some better quality stuff on there - thanks @_UV_. Not sure how much I can do beyond that before replacing the GPU cooling, and at that point I'll probably just go grab an RX 5700 XT. The ol' 390 is getting up there.

Nice! At least you're keeping below 90, unlike some of us... haha




I'm not too sure what that is to be honest, so I'll go look it up!

I forgot to ask and haven't read through the last page but have you also tried to apply an undervolt with msi afterburner? This may help you in conjunction with the fans and some better TIM to stay under 94c and stop your throttling once and for all

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yeah, I mostly don't notice but might as well grab a stand while I'm investing.



Thanks! I'll look into upgrading the card's fans.

What do you all think about a vertical card mount? I'm wondering if it would help or hurt the air more.

I had one of those cards for ages it was meant to run upto those speeds and Temps, modern games will naturally push it harder.
It's worth a re thermal paste but it's designed to boost upto that anyway, cooler is always better but delta fans

He isn't mining, it's probably not in the spair room they're jet engines.

 

[More Sly]

I forgot to ask and haven't read through the last page but have you also tried to apply an undervolt with msi afterburner? This may help you in conjunction with the fans and some better TIM to stay under 94c and stop your throttling once and for all

I haven't looked at that at all! Undervolting is a new term to me - I'll do some research there. Thank you!

I had one of those cards for ages it was meant to run upto those speeds and Temps, modern games will naturally push it harder.
It's worth a re thermal paste but it's designed to boost upto that anyway, cooler is always better but delta fans

He isn't mining, it's probably not in the spair room they're jet engines.

Yeah, I figure it's meant to go high - I always heard they're heat beasts. 94 just seemed like it was pushing it a bit to me. Still does, a little. Maybe my thermal paste just isn't up to par, but I'm hoping i can get it to drop just a degree or two and keep stable at 1040MHz.

UPDATE: Looking at my logs again, it looks like I got 10-20 degrees off my CPU which is really, really welcome. Stable in mid-50s - down from up to 70.

 

[Meehi]

UPDATE: Looking at my logs again, it looks like I got 10-20 degrees off my CPU which is really, really welcome. Stable in mid-50s - down from up to 70.
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hi man, I have the same problem with my Gigabyte r9 390. 3 years ago I was using it in games 70 decrees C. I didn’t play any games for 3 years and now when I started again it gets hot. I stopped the test in heaven benchmark at 93 degrees and rising. I have payed some tech guy to reapply the thermic paste and now it is cooler by only 4 degrees, not enough. Any advice for me? thanks

 

[More Sly]

UPDATE: Looking at my logs again, it looks like I got 10-20 degrees off my CPU which is really, really welcome. Stable in mid-50s - down from up to 70.

hi man, I have the same problem with my Gigabyte r9 390. 3 years ago I was using it in games 70 decrees C. I didn’t play any games for 3 years and now when I started again it gets hot. I stopped the test in heaven benchmark at 93 degrees and rising. I have payed some tech guy to reapply the thermic paste and now it is cooler by only 4 degrees, not enough. Any advice for me? thanks

Hey Meehi, First - are you running higher settings than you did before or are you benchmarking with the same game and settings? I assume if you had someone reapply thermal paste then they also cleaned the heatsink of dust and everything? Check your fan speeds to make sure nothing is wrong with them, then maybe consider the airflow in your case.

Keep in mind that the degree drop you quoted was on my CPU, not my GPU. It was from adding better airflow to my case and wasn't the problem I was looking to solve when I did this - just a welcome bonus. My GPU is still running hot (over 90) but its affecting my clock speed less so I'm more comfortable with assuming it isn't in the danger zone.

 

[Meehi]

Thank you, yes indeed I guess I wasn't paying attention with the quote - it was the cpu. I use the same stock settings, the same windows install, and I even opened up the pc case to help the cooling. Eventually I changed the windows from 8 to 10 and the problem persisted. I now ordered some top quality thermal paste and I will apply it myself this time. Never before I have seen temp above 70 with this gpu in this benchmark or any games.

 

[More Sly]

Let me know how that goes! I'm probably getting a new card in November so I won't bother opening my 390 up again, but you have reminded me that I wanted to experiment with undervolting as @xman2007 suggested. I'll do that this week and report back.

 

[AsRock]

UPDATE: Looking at my logs again, it looks like I got 10-20 degrees off my CPU which is really, really welcome. Stable in mid-50s - down from up to 70.


hi man, I have the same problem with my Gigabyte r9 390. 3 years ago I was using it in games 70 decrees C. I didn’t play any games for 3 years and now when I started again it gets hot. I stopped the test in heaven benchmark at 93 degrees and rising. I have payed some tech guy to reapply the thermic paste and now it is cooler by only 4 degrees, not enough. Any advice for me? thanks

Different games by any chance too ?, after owning the 290X and 390X ( clock is 1050 core ) they are both HOT cards and need the ventilation. i have been able to keep mine under 90c in a room temp of 35c although i had to take the side panel of the case, i keep meaning to make 2 fan hole at the bottom of the case for more air flow which would solve my issue.

I have all so taken the shroud of mine along with the fans and added my own fans with a PCI bracket from a old GPU cooler i had. The original card maybe able to take the heat but the fans don't.

 

[Meehi]

Let me know how that goes! I'm probably getting a new card in November so I won't bother opening my 390 up again, but you have reminded me that I wanted to experiment with undervolting as @xman2007 suggested. I'll do that this week and report back.

update, so I bought the current best thermal paste

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut and I gained another 5 degrees C. Top temperature is now 83 C. I feel like I should replace the thermal pads on the other chips too

 

[More Sly]

That's really great to hear! I'll have to invest in some of that next time I open it up. I was using thermal paste that came with my Cooler Master CPU cooler.

 

[Meehi]

That's really great to hear! I'll have to invest in some of that next time I open it up. I was using thermal paste that came with my Cooler Master CPU cooler.

83 with the case closed and 80 C with the case panel removed

 

[More Sly]

Those are some excellent numbers! I might grab some anyways to be honest. Not like it goes bad...

 

[Meehi]

Those are some excellent numbers! I might grab some anyways to be honest. Not like it goes bad...

Tell me how it went for you. I also found out some people saying the same problem (with other AMD GPUs) came when they updated the GPU drivers. Interestig thing to study

 

[FriendlyAdvisor]

Hello friendly readers of the Techpowerup community,

I feel your pain regarding the MSI graphics card R9 390x because despite the fact that it's getting extremely hot in games after a while, it's still a pretty strong contender even in 2020.
So I played a little bit with the airflows, inverted the fans on the case (see 1st image), but it only helped with 1-2 degrees Celsius difference. The games would freeze after a while and my PC would automatically restart itself or remains just hanging. Just fyi, the fans are mounted to pull the air out of the case. Do not mount them to push any air into the case, because you make the situation worse by keeping the hot air trapped in the case.

So I thought, let's test several thermal pastes and came over the following one => Arctic Silver - Ceramique 2 [Tri-Linear Ceramic Thermal Compound] (see 2nd image).
It worked !!! I tested it for about an hour: with the old paste it went up to 95 degrees after just 15 minutes of Ultra Settings (ex. NFS Payback) and then the whole system crashed.
With this Ceramique 2 thermal paste from Arctic Silver I have a maximum of 84 degrees Celsius and the game is not crashing.

I will test it again today for about 2-3 hours with more games and let you guys know, if I've really discovered the holy grail to this issue.

Kind wishes and "see" you soon, guys !


P.S. I didn't play with the clock speeds of the GPU or VRAM. GPU runs at default settings: GPU - max. 1080Mhz and VRAM - 1500Mhz.

 

[More Sly]

I got my clock speed stable again after reapplying that thermal paste and throwing in more system fans. Temps are still above 90 but the clock was stable last time I checked, so it doesn't seem to be too much of an issue. Waiting on a 3070 upgrade now. I might experiment with putting a waterblock on the 390 down the road.