American FDA Approves Video Game as ADHD Treatment, Makes it Available as a Prescription

[R-T-B]

Not going to say ADHD is BS

Good, because I get sick of hearing that.

I knew a kid with it in my middle school class, and if he didn't have it he'd have "bouncing off the walls syndrome." He was so hyper he stuck his finger in an electric pencil sharpener, literally.

RIP pinky.

But yeah, I do believe it is overdiagnosed. Just like several autism spectrum disorders. Or rather... not so much overdiagnosed as overmedicated (I believe a lot of the populace has tendencies towards one or the other, so...). But hardly all the cases need medicating, and a lot get pills anyways.

Hopefully, this should help with that.

 

[remixedcat]

I am so glad I grew up in the countryside as well. Lived the farm life and was outside all the time playing with animals or riding bikes or 4wheelers or just exploring our woods. Good times. I was allowed to also walk down the road but not to ride with strangers and I had to come to the house to tell mom n dad if my friends stopped by. Got hurt a lot just doing kid things and turned out stronger and wiser.

 

[Caring1]

Such as what? I took it for years with no issues.

Side effects and risks associated with the long-term use of ADHD medication include:

• Heart disease.
• High blood pressure.
• Seizure.
• Irregular heartbeat.
• Abuse and addiction.
• Skin discolorations.

Observations of children known to have used Ritalin long term show a number of them to suffer drug dependency later in life.

 

[R-T-B]

Side effects and risks associated with the long-term use of ADHD medication include:

• Heart disease.
• High blood pressure.
• Seizure.
• Irregular heartbeat.
• Abuse and addiction.
• Skin discolorations.

Observations of children known to have used Ritalin long term show a number of them to suffer drug dependency later in life.

Well Ritalin is a amphetamine derivative.

I may have been prescribed something similar once (Adderall). It was not a fun experience, and no it did not end up working out for me.

I am so glad I grew up in the countryside as well. Lived the farm life and was outside all the time playing with animals or riding bikes or 4wheelers or just exploring our woods. Good times. I was allowed to also walk down the road but not to ride with strangers and I had to come to the house to tell mom n dad if my friends stopped by. Got hurt a lot just doing kid things and turned out stronger and wiser.

That's all well and good it worked out for you but some of us are born with conditions the outdoors don't fix too, mind. A lot of these kids wouldn't even end up surviving if forcibly pushed into such a world.

Ritalin is no different than prescribing ex-smokers amphetamines which work by amplifying the side effects.

That's really not how it works.

If you have ADHD, it calms you.

If you don't, it wires you up like meth does. Guess what happened to me?

 

[mtcn77]

Can I take objection to that? I was that wall to wall kid which got fixed with love from the school teacher? Suddenly you develop introspection if someone does not shun you before your parents.

That's really not how it works.

You are really not supposed to say that to textbook information, but do as you please...

 

[R-T-B]

That's not the problem. Don't think of ADHD as kids who don't want to do things not being able to focus on them. Think of it more like kids who do want to focus on things, but can't. There is a big difference. Impulse control is only part of it.

That's really the crux of this. Real ADHD, not the overprescribed kind, is not something a rougher upbrining from the past is going to cure. It's more likely to be fatal to them in some form.

You are really not supposed to say that to textbook information, but do as you please...

Oh, so you are a textbook now? I forgot...

 

[mtcn77]

Oh, so you are a textbook now? I forgot. Which volume of lord of the rings, since you make no sense half the time?

Oh, you "do" think this is might and magic we are talking about. Interesting...

 

[R-T-B]

Oh, you "do" think this is might and magic we are talking about. Interesting...

Nah, I just trust my certified doc more than a rando on the internet. I've actually tried this stuff, and heard about the reasons it did not work.

I scrubbed out the lord of the rings comment because it was a bit silly even for me, but you found it anyways.

 

[mtcn77]

Nah, I just trust my certified doc more than a rando on the internet. I've actually tried this stuff, and heard about the reasons it did not work.

You 'tried'? Nice try... I bet your doc approves of your alliterations.

 

[R-T-B]

You 'tried'? Nice try...

Yes, I was on adderall for roughly a year. What's hard to believe? It made me nearly kill my brother, and almost divorce my parents. It was not a good experience. Because I don't have ADHD.

Similar medications, stimulants mostly, have made me do odd things in the past. We stay away from them now because I don't need that crap, aparently. Ask @sneekypeet about the last time I was prescribed Abilify (which seemed innocent enough)...

It sucks too because my core issue is my sleep and wake cycle don't work, so stimulants would kind of rock if they didn't make me batshit insane.

 

[mtcn77]

Yes, I was on adderall for roughly a year. What's hard to believe? It made me nearly kill my brother, and almost divorce my parents. It was not a good experience. Because I don't have ADHD.

Now, the subject is about you? I suppose not, but be my guest making it a point of projection...

Good thing we got the message across. Don't try the blame game with perceived persecutions. I'm talking what is inside the 'textbook'.

 

[R-T-B]

I'm talking what is inside the 'textbook'.

Good thing you provided us with references, oh wait.

No it's not about me, but YOU asked. Cya later, instigator.

 

[mtcn77]

Good thing you provided us with references, oh wait.

Oh, did you ask for any? I thought you were on with your personal anectodes.
I will not give any advice on medications over the internet. Sorry.

 

[R-T-B]

I will not give any advice on medications over the internet. Sorry.

Is anyone here really doing that?

To be completely clear, and leave your insinuations at the door, I was only providing my experiences. If anyone bases their medication choices off of them, they are a moron. Please don't.

Oh, did you ask for any?

Usually when providing a strange fact from nowhere, they are expected. Especially when it goes against accepted norms.

 

[mtcn77]

Is anyone here really doing that?

It is a bad precedent. Something even you are not supposed to do.
You see with textbook information, you can. Because it is true.

 

[R-T-B]

Yep. Call me when you get a reference.

 

[mtcn77]

I was only providing my experiences. If anyone bases their medication choices off of them,

I want to fill this with another sentence, you would be giving low credibility medical evidence. Anectodes are not to be taken seriously in any context.

Yep. Call me when you get a reference.

Interesting, how you can paraphrase that with your anectodal juxtaposition. I bet you don't exactly believe in evidence based medicine?

I still want to ge tthe message across, my class of evidence is not 'C'.

 

[Aquinus]

Well Ritalin is a amphetamine derivative.

Actually, Adderall (mixed amphetamine salts,) is a substituted amphetamine. Ritalin (methylphenidate,) is actually considerably different in the sense that it's just a NDRI. Amphetamine is both a reuptake inhibitor and a releasing agent and acts through a different mechanism via TAAR1 as opposed to Methylphenidate for just the NET and DAT.

That's really not how it works.

If you have ADHD, it calms you.

If you don't, it wires you up like meth does. Guess what happened to me?

^ This, and when you actually are ADHD and you're not medicated, it's like being wired up on meth. When my daughter was first medicated with a stimulant, she told me that it made her tired.

I want to fill this with another sentence, you would be giving low credibility medical evidence. Anectodes are not to be taken seriously in any context.

Look in the mirror and see yourself.

 

[mtcn77]

Look in the mirror and see yourself.

I'm okay with myself.

Ritalin (methylphenidate,) is actually considerably different in the sense that it's just a NDRI.

That is moving the goalpost. One doesn't clear the other. In fact, all prior things do still stand. You might oppose it, but we cannot dismiss facts as we please.

 

[Aquinus]

That is moving the goalpost. One doesn't clear the other. In fact, all prior things do still stand. You might oppose it, but we cannot dismiss facts as we please.

You've yet to make that point. You've been all edge and no point.

 

[mtcn77]

You've yet to make that point. You've been all edge and no point.

I've yet to see where it is amiss that my example on smoking pills are not what you are suggesting. We've been past that. Stop ascribing undue credits to them. If we look at your past example,

Amphetamine is both a reuptake inhibitor and a releasing agent and acts through a different mechanism

If you administer free neurotransmitters, the cells obviously 'downregulate' their receptors. What is there to elaborate further?

 

[Caring1]

It is a bad precedent. Something even you are not supposed to do.
You see with textbook information, you can. Because it is true.

Textbooks generalise, they are not a one solution fit for all.
What works for one, may not work for another, that is why doctors trial medications on their patients, then increase dosage if it works.

 

[mtcn77]

Textbooks generalise, they are not a one solution fit for all.
What works for one, may not work for another, that is why doctors trial medications on their patients, then increase dosage if it works.

This is the wrong message just like the quote above. Doctors don't trial medications, that is a trick to gain patient compliance.
Don't try to trick me into your arguments, you will find it more than a match for yours.
Guys, let me help you. I want to. You need to have the best of evidence to make sense of this. Don't let the jargon get the better of you.

 

[Caring1]

Don't try to trick me into your arguments, you will find it more than a match for yours.
Guys, let me help you. I want to. You need to have the best of evidence to make sense of this. Don't let the jargon get the better of you.

Looks like you are the one that needs help.

 

[mtcn77]

I do not deny my passion, in fact I embrace it. Only through me will you gain power undreamed of by the normies to save your precious argument.

Looks like you are the one that needs help.

Just because I'm playful you cannot prove the negative, but chime on. I like drawing parallels to star wars, starcraft you name it. It is not a one sided digression you see, if you won't ground yourself on medical posits. I share your zeal on fluidity of thought.