stuttering in almost any game rtx 2070 super, desperate for help

[Lindatje]

HPET must be on in the bios and off in Windows.

 

[ARF]

Stuttering is normally caused by not fast enough CPU.
If the GPU is slow, there will still be some graphics settings which should be playable - for example everything set to Minimum or Low.

This is one very unbalanced system.

I would buy a normal motherboard that is not the oldest and weakest A320.
And I would sell RTX 2070 in order to change it with Radeon RX 5700 XT.

The guy still didn't tell what case he has, so we can recommend a new, proper motherboard.

 

[P4-630]

And I would sell RTX 2070 in order to change it with Radeon RX 5700 XT.

 

[ARF]

Ryzen is better to be paired with an AMD GPU. FACT!

The short verdict is, translated by yours truly: "After looking at all the results, we can see that the Geforce cards can better utilize the multicore Ryzen power in DX 9 and DX 11 titles. With low-level APIs, the Radeon cards gain a lot of traction and can even beat the GTX models in the highly optimised W2TNC in CPU-bound scenarios."

Pairing an AMD or NVIDIA GPU with Ryzen?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7l06r5
Does Ryzen Perform Better with AMD GPUs?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Stuttering is normally caused by not fast enough CPU.

no it's caused by a plethora of factors

This is one very unbalanced system.

with a 3600 and 2070S ?

The guy still didn't tell what case he has, so we can recommend a new, proper motherboard.

what ?
and what's wrong with a 65w cpu on a320 ?

And I would sell RTX 2070 in order to change it with Radeon RX 5700 XT.

you'd tell anyone to sell anything and get a 5700xt

and how doers this follow ? you're telling him stuttering is cpu's fault then urge him to change mobos and sell his nvidia for amd.

stop this misinformation craziness ! op is advised not to sell anything yet.

I'd start with playing with ram speed settings first,I heard ryzen and 3000mhz ram can cause issues sometimes.
try 2933,2666 or 3200,wouldn't hurt to rule out one possible conflict.

Ryzen is better to be paired with an AMD GPU. FACT!



Pairing an AMD or NVIDIA GPU with Ryzen?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/7l06r5
Does Ryzen Perform Better with AMD GPUs?

a 2 year old reddit thread is not a fact.
to learn what facts are find us a test from a reputable site that'll come up with same conclusion.
your whole point on tpu is to misinform people.

 

[ARF]

@davipn:

Can you take from your friends a Radeon card and try again. But try to take something like Radeon RX 560 or Radeon RX 570.
Uninstall all nVidia drivers, unplug the card and change it with a Radeon.

Report what happens.

Update your BIOS, AMD chipset driver, and install the latest Radeon Software from AMD.com

 

[purecain]

really gets to me when i read a thread like this one. Every pc i ever sold was made to an extremely high standard. looks like that pc you have needs a little work. Buy yourself a cheap ssd to run your games on . that will help and get a 700w psu preferably from seasonic. good luck with it buddy!
also run gpu-z on that card and post up your results so we can make sure everything adds up.

 

[cucker tarlson]

imo this looks like windows problem.
seen people write about this on ryzen systems with new win updates
can you roll back to any previous versions ?

 

[ARF]

really gets to me when i read a thread like this one. Every pc i ever sold was made to an extremely high standard. looks like that pc you have needs a little work. Buy yourself a cheap ssd to run your games on . that will help and get a 700w psu preferably from seasonic. good luck with it buddy!
also run gpu-z on that card and post up your results so we can make sure everything adds up.

Have you seen incompatibility issues between enemy brands?
I mean I have had freezes with Athlon 64 and ATi Radeon X1000 series GPU.
But back then chipsets for AMD Athlon were nVidia nForce, so it was quite explainable.

Today, to pair Intel with nVidia is as normal as to pair AMD with AMD.

And once the OP uninstalls the GeForce driver, his system suddenly begins to breathe again.

 

[cucker tarlson]

doesn't seem to mention it anywhere,did you try various nv drivers or just one ?

I just checked the latest,446.14 is one messy driver when it comes to latency.I'm not having any frametime/stutter issues on it though and gameplay is smooth as ever.

I think your dpc issues are not related to stutter in games,they shouldn't be.they're a separate issue on your machine.when the card goes into full power mode dpc latency tends to stay normal.it's a problem on light loads e.g. you can get crackling audio when watching youtube etc.

I tested 445.98 and 445.87,solid,not the best I've seen but there's nothing very alarming going on.

.87 seems a little bit more consistent in-game latency, .98 seems a little bit better in idle/light gpu load,but like I said - even with 446.14 which obviously struggles with latency on desktop,there's no difference between those three drivers in games.all three produce a perfectly smooth frametime record.

like I said,your latency problems are a separate issue and they are nv driver related.
your stuttering/frametime problems - that's sth else

 

[Apocalypsee]

Windows 10 can be taxing on HDD IMO, you gonna need SSD for that. Try to see disk utilization at idle, if its high do several tweaks like disabling superfetch and prefetch, adjust paging file to another disk and make it one size for minimum and maximum.

Ryzen system also sensitive to memory speed, make sure everything is right (memory speed, memory timing and check AIDA64 cache and memory benchmark to see whether everything is in order).

Only pair Ryzen with aMD card is load of bull, I am using Ryzen 3600 with GTX 1070 with no problem, and using Ryzen 1600 pair with the same card last year without issue too.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Only pair Ryzen with aMD card is load of bull, I am using Ryzen 3600 with GTX 1070 with no problem, and using Ryzen 1600 pair with the same card last year without issue too.

half of this forum is using ryzen w. nvidia
but arf is having a debate with himself vs. facts again.

 

[Mussels]

Ignore the ryzen/nvidia thing, its definitely unrelated.

Latency monitor seems to be on the right track, we need to find out whats going on here.
Is the VRM's on the mobo thermal throttling? It can be hard to tell, you dont have any kind of overclock or tweaked BIOS settings do you?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Is the VRM's on the mobo thermal throttling? It can be hard to tell, you dont have any kind of overclock or tweaked BIOS settings do you?

imo he should monitor core frequencies in game
if there's a clock speed drop that goes in line with ft spikes it may be a vrm related problem.

I don't think so tho.

 

[ARF]

Ignore the ryzen/nvidia thing, its definitely unrelated.

Latency monitor seems to be on the right track, we need to find out whats going on here.
Is the VRM's on the mobo thermal throttling? It can be hard to tell, you dont have any kind of overclock or tweaked BIOS settings do you?

This would mean the high-end graphics card overloads the entry, low-end A320 board.

He has to check with lower end graphics card, if possible without additional power connectors, supplied only from the PCIe slot.

 

[cucker tarlson]

2070s takes power from 2x8 pins

a no-corrector card would run all its power through pci-e

 

[Apocalypsee]

2070s takes power from 2x8 pins

a no-corrector card would run all its power through pci-e

His logic sometimes is weird. Anyone can see videos on YouTube where people coupled 3600 with A320 with even RTX 2080Ti and works

 

[Mussels]

This would mean the high-end graphics card overloads the entry, low-end A320 board.

He has to check with lower end graphics card, if possible without additional power connectors, supplied only from the PCIe slot.

That is not how any of this works.

 

[cucker tarlson]

possible hw problems:
vrm throttle
bad psu performance
ram issues

there's just no way a320 board can't deal with a 2070s

 

[ARF]

That is not how any of this works.

Ok, I will happy when you fix his problems. I don't see a solution yet.

You saw that without the graphics driver, his system works.

 

[cucker tarlson]

You saw that without the graphics driver, his system works.

without a graphics drivers he runs games with no stutter you mean ?

 

[davipn]

really gets to me when i read a thread like this one. Every pc i ever sold was made to an extremely high standard. looks like that pc you have needs a little work. Buy yourself a cheap ssd to run your games on . that will help and get a 700w psu preferably from seasonic. good luck with it buddy!
also run gpu-z on that card and post up your results so we can make sure everything adds up.

will try the psu, the gpuz log is here somewhere

without a graphics drivers he runs games with no stutter you mean ?

i think he said when i uninstaled the gpu drivers and the latecymon goes ok

will try the ram timing thing, im running out of ideas

also i already RMA my ssd thinking this was the problem, the site where i bought it dont give a shit about troubleshooting, so i RMA and the site dont even tested my ssd cuz it returned whit a little scratch on the screw hole ... it will be back in my hands in one week or more

personally i would take alook at the card first, check the heat or something unusual there, changing pciex slot
resetting the bios

all temps are ok

Post your driver sheet from latencymon after test, I cant open your posted pic.

here

@davidp So, what was the outcome of this thread

nothing for now :/

rolled back the drivers to 445.87 nothing

 

[Adonis]

I can almost guarentee that this issue is not caused by mixing Ryzen and Nvidia hardware. I have a Ryzen 5 1600X and a 2070 Super and my system runs perfectly fine. In fact my Ryzen 5 1600X is more likely to cause issues than the OP's Ryzen 5 3600. I know a lot of other people with Ryzen / Nvidia that don't have any issues.

I just wanted to ask this one question first, do you have multiple monitors connected to the GPU? I noticed severe stuttering in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice when I had more than 1 monitor plugged in.

 

[davipn]

I can almost guarentee that this issue is not caused by mixing Ryzen and Nvidia hardware. I have a Ryzen 5 1600X and a 2070 Super and my system runs perfectly fine. In fact my Ryzen 5 1600X is more likely to cause issues than the OP's Ryzen 5 3600. I know a lot of other people with Ryzen / Nvidia that don't have any issues.

I just wanted to ask this one question first, do you have multiple monitors connected to the GPU? I noticed severe stuttering in Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice when I had more than 1 monitor plugged in.

just a ultrawide 75 hz no freesync monitor

 

[Mussels]

Only two real options here: some kind of partially faulty hardware (VRMs overheating on mobo or GPU, or similar)

Or buggy software that only shows up at certain times, like a 3D overlay that activates when the graphics driver is called - a clean install wont help if you reinstall the same software every time.