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Hello! I was thinking about building a x79 system (don't ask me why) and as you know you are limited on that platform to only 6 cores... with i7s. Xeons can go higher. The 2690 sandy 8c and 2690v2 ivy 10c seem like the best options... But how to oc them? Can the i7 3820 trick be used for these cpus as well?
 
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You can OC via BCLK IF you have decent X79 motherboard I am running my Xeon 2650 V2 OC on 3,4Ghz(all cores)+ turbo 3860Ghz.....

X2650V2.jpg

This Xeon 2650 V2 stocked clock is 2,6Ghz turbo boost 3,4 so I managed to rise the BCLK/Bus speed on 113.5 here bellow is how much more points making in CPU-z benchmark compared to the stocked CPU
2650V2MulticoreScoreCpuzgraph.jpg
 
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You can OC via BCLK IF you have decent X79 motherboard I am running my Xeon 2650 V2 OC on 3,4Ghz(all cores)+ turbo 3860Ghz.....

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Nice... But you can't run 125 baseclock and a random multiplier? How the 3820 could be overclocked was that the bclk would only affect the clock speed if you selected the 100, 125, 166 and 250 options.
 
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Nice... But you can't run 125 baseclock and a random multiplier? How the 3820 could be overclocked was that the bclk would only affect the clock speed if you selected the 100, 125, 166 and 250 options.
No can't work like with I7 3820....This Xeons are locked so you can't change the multiplier you can only rise BCLK...If you want unlocked Xeons then go for 16xx series...the BEST option is 1680 V2 it's still a BEAST but that piece of silicon is not yet cheap.......
 
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Sad. But a friend told me the e5 16xx family exists. The 1680v2 a fully unlocked 8 core ivy. I would have loved to have the 10 core... but the 8 core will do just fine.
 
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Sad. But a friend told me the e5 16xx family exists. The 1680v2 a fully unlocked 8 core ivy. I would have loved to have the 10 core... but the 8 core will do just fine.
It is what it is.........depend what is the main purpose of your build is it just for gaming.....what GPU you planing to put in that RIG?
 
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Honestly I just want something to play with without throwing it in the bin after I'm done.
 

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You can OC via BCLK IF you have decent X79 motherboard I am running my Xeon 2650 V2 OC on 3,4Ghz(all cores)+ turbo 3860Ghz.....

View attachment 152443
This Xeon 2650 V2 stocked clock is 2,6Ghz turbo boost 3,4 so I managed to rise the BCLK/Bus speed on 113.5 here bellow is how much more points making in CPU-z benchmark compared to the stocked CPU
View attachment 152444

Greetings from Brazil, i have a XEON 2650v2 STOCK runing on a KLLISRE x79 and i need to know how to change BCLK, my motherboard dont show this option to me.
And, what motherboard are you using?
 
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Greetings from Brazil, i have a XEON 2650v2 STOCK runing on a KLLISRE x79 and i need to know how to change BCLK, my motherboard dont show this option to me.
And, what motherboard are you using?
Unfortunately I am afraid you can't do that on those Chinese or certain server motherboards you need some "branded" X79 motherboard with proper bios tweaking/options and those used boards are probably still very expensive........GL
 

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Greetings from Brazil, i have a XEON 2650v2 STOCK runing on a KLLISRE x79 and i need to know how to change BCLK, my motherboard dont show this option to me.
And, what motherboard are you using?
Actually you can overclock BUS on these motherboards
 
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Honestly I just want something to play with without throwing it in the bin after I'm done.
If you want something fun yet still very powerful and affordable, you might consider a dual socket HP z820 workstation. This was HP's high end business offering back in 2012-2013 and with the right chips (which are relatively cheap on ebay at this point) they are still a force to be reckoned with. This machine does not have much in the way of competition. Even now, most state of the art rigs dont even come close to matching it in memory bandwidth...or CPU power for that matter. Obviously it needs to have both sockets populated to achieve this.



In order to

It was pretty much the cream of the crop for a number of years when it first hit the market. Dell has their own workstation equivalent, but is nowhere near as aesthetically pleasing on the eyes as the 820. In fact, I don't like the dell styling at all.





The computer is innovative and even groundbreaking in a number of respects. First of all, it's a 100% tool free design. Meaning everything locks or snaps into place and you can essentially disassemble the entire rig without the use of a Philips head screwdriver, or any other tool for that matter. This makes upgrading hardware, or troubleshooting a problem a real breeze. For example. It literally takes about one second to remove the CPU cooler hood that sits atop the sockets. And don't think for one second that HP was cutting corners by having "snap on" components. No, this is very high level stuff operating at a very high level of performance.

Speaking of air flow, the z820 also has one of the best cooling systems ever put to use in a workstation computer and includes active cooling on all 16 ram slots plus a high quality 80mm PWM fan above each CPU. As you probably know, many servers in the wild use segregated channels to route fresh air through specific "corridors" within the chassis...and the cooling potential is very good so long as you can keep a steady rate of fresh air coming in. It's more or less the same in the z820, only it's much more quiet than a server. And in point of fact, quieter than most desktops as well...

z820 CPU channel and hood:


In addition to that, and to give you a complete understanding of the level of performance of this cooler, you can completely lose a 80mm fan (and I'm talking about the fans that sit directly above the CPUs here) and you can still use the machine aggressively. For example, my testing revealed that after multiple CB 15/20 runs, the chip with no active cooling amazingly holds at about 165*F. Still well below the 212*F ceiling. How can this be possible, you might be asking yourself...? And it's simple. The CPUs and their associated heatsinks sit directly in the path of an airflow channel;. Starts in the 5.25" drive bay area by pulling fresh air through the front bezel, then the air flows over both CPU coolers (which are offset) and subsequently exhausts via the two 80 mm PWM fans at the back of the case, In other words, HP has built redundancy into an already exceptionally high performance, balanced cooling solution. This is not something you see every day. So you have near perfect airflow in this case, which is another thing to add to the pros list. One other thing. it has a 1125w (up to 1250w) PSU, and lots of PCIe expansion shots to allow for upgrades and modifications down the road. Had no problem putting my massive 5700 XT in there, with room to spare.



And you wouldn't know by using it that the case actually contains six 80 mm fans. To give you an example of the supreme operational quietness of the z820, I can run CB extreme or CB R20 and in many cases the fans dont even move from idle. It's pretty crazy. I've never seen anything like that, ever. In fact the most I've seen out of the fans is about 20%, and even then the fan noise is still pretty faint. You also have options in the BIOS to ramp up your fans a little quicker if you are really hammering it.

Leading to the radiators. Yes the machine had a factory watercooling option, which makes it a very unique kind of machine with a significant place in the histories of technology. Plus the rig caught my eye with it's beautiful brushed aluminum finish and I immediately knew I had to get one and put in my computer collection. So I bought two of them! lol

Surprisingly, these little 80 mm coolers have huge capacity for heat dissipation. Even with the power hungry Xeon 150w E5 2687w ( Intel's fastest 8 core Ivy bridge) you still cant hit the ceiling. Very robust, to say the least. That's essentially 300 watts of heat being dissipated by a mere 160 mm worth of radiator. See for yourself:



I will be back later to fill you in on my CPU recommendations.

Hint:
OEM Ivy Bridge > RETAIL Ivy Bridge


I am running the E5 2673 v





2696 v2


But short answer to your question? No, cant do much in the way of overclocking on these Xeons as already mentioned (at least on a z820. Although, if we pool our money together I'm sure we could have someone over at bios-mods.com help us out with custom BIOS or something like that. Seeing how CPU cooler itself is almost perfectly designed for pretty serious overclocking, that would be a thrilling upgrade.

Due to the fact you have limited headroom to OC, it's important to select CPUs that will compensate for that lost potential. What I mean is you want to get a CPU with a relatively high turbo or base clock for optimal results. You probably already know this, but I just wanted to put it out there.

Okay, I will take off my sell-you-a-z820 hat now :)
 
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If you want something fun yet still very powerful and affordable, you might consider a dual socket HP z820 workstation. This was HP's high end business offering back in 2012-2013 and with the right chips (which are relatively cheap on ebay at this point) they are still a force to be reckoned with. This machine does not have much in the way of competition. Even now, most state of the art rigs dont even come close to matching it in memory bandwidth...or CPU power for that matter. Obviously it needs to have both sockets populated to achieve this.



In order to

It was pretty much the cream of the crop for a number of years when it first hit the market. Dell has their own workstation equivalent, but is nowhere near as aesthetically pleasing on the eyes as the 820. In fact, I don't like the dell styling at all.





The computer is innovative and even groundbreaking in a number of respects. First of all, it's a 100% tool free design. Meaning everything locks or snaps into place and you can essentially disassemble the entire rig without the use of a Philips head screwdriver, or any other tool for that matter. This makes upgrading hardware, or troubleshooting a problem a real breeze. For example. It literally takes about one second to remove the CPU cooler hood that sits atop the sockets. And don't think for one second that HP was cutting corners by having "snap on" components. No, this is very high level stuff operating at a very high level of performance.

Speaking of air flow, the z820 also has one of the best cooling systems ever put to use in a workstation computer and includes active cooling on all 16 ram slots plus a high quality 80mm PWM fan above each CPU. As you probably know, many servers in the wild use segregated channels to route fresh air through specific "corridors" within the chassis...and the cooling potential is very good so long as you can keep a steady rate of fresh air coming in. It's more or less the same in the z820, only it's much more quiet than a server. And in point of fact, quieter than most desktops as well...

z820 CPU channel and hood:


In addition to that, and to give you a complete understanding of the level of performance of this cooler, you can completely lose a 80mm fan (and I'm talking about the fans that sit directly above the CPUs here) and you can still use the machine aggressively. For example, my testing revealed that after multiple CB 15/20 runs, the chip with no active cooling amazingly holds at about 165*F. Still well below the 212*F ceiling. How can this be possible, you might be asking yourself...? And it's simple. The CPUs and their associated heatsinks sit directly in the path of an airflow channel;. Starts in the 5.25" drive bay area by pulling fresh air through the front bezel, then the air flows over both CPU coolers (which are offset) and subsequently exhausts via the two 80 mm PWM fans at the back of the case, In other words, HP has built redundancy into an already exceptionally high performance, balanced cooling solution. This is not something you see every day. So you have near perfect airflow in this case, which is another thing to add to the pros list. One other thing. it has a 1125w (up to 1250w) PSU, and lots of PCIe expansion shots to allow for upgrades and modifications down the road. Had no problem putting my massive 5700 XT in there, with room to spare.



And you wouldn't know by using it that the case actually contains six 80 mm fans. To give you an example of the supreme operational quietness of the z820, I can run CB extreme or CB R20 and in many cases the fans dont even move from idle. It's pretty crazy. I've never seen anything like that, ever. In fact the most I've seen out of the fans is about 20%, and even then the fan noise is still pretty faint. You also have options in the BIOS to ramp up your fans a little quicker if you are really hammering it.

Leading to the radiators. Yes the machine had a factory watercooling option, which makes it a very unique kind of machine with a significant place in the histories of technology. Plus the rig caught my eye with it's beautiful brushed aluminum finish and I immediately knew I had to get one and put in my computer collection. So I bought two of them! lol

Surprisingly, these little 80 mm coolers have huge capacity for heat dissipation. Even with the power hungry Xeon 150w E5 2687w ( Intel's fastest 8 core Ivy bridge) you still cant hit the ceiling. Very robust, to say the least. That's essentially 300 watts of heat being dissipated by a mere 160 mm worth of radiator. See for yourself:



I will be back later to fill you in on my CPU recommendations.

Hint:
OEM Ivy Bridge > RETAIL Ivy Bridge


I am running the E5 2673 v





2696 v2


But short answer to your question? No, cant do much in the way of overclocking on these Xeons as already mentioned (at least on a z820. Although, if we pool our money together I'm sure we could have someone over at bios-mods.com help us out with custom BIOS or something like that. Seeing how CPU cooler itself is almost perfectly designed for pretty serious overclocking, that would be a thrilling upgrade.

Due to the fact you have limited headroom to OC, it's important to select CPUs that will compensate for that lost potential. What I mean is you want to get a CPU with a relatively high turbo or base clock for optimal results. You probably already know this, but I just wanted to put it out there.

Okay, I will take off my sell-you-a-z820 hat now :)
I love your enthusiasm! Consider me your 'woke' (in the sense of having an appreciation for 'deprecated' workstations) com padre. I've got 2 2650v2 in my system but it's feeling a bit lackluster in processing performance. Not bad, necessarily, but could be better. I was researching oc'ing and found the fsb method but I wasn't able to find my specific clock chip in the setfsb program.

I like your thought about opting for a processor that has a higher turbo clock and I'm about ready to jump in on x2 xeon 2696 v2. I'd like to ask, have you been able to manage any overclocking with this cpu in the time that you have/had it?

Also, I welcome any advice you may share on your workstation ownership!

Thanks for the awesome post, while it is from a few years back I find it's still very relevant.

Cheers,
el
 
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You can OC via BCLK IF you have decent X79 motherboard I am running my Xeon 2650 V2 OC on 3,4Ghz(all cores)+ turbo 3860Ghz.....

View attachment 152443
This Xeon 2650 V2 stocked clock is 2,6Ghz turbo boost 3,4 so I managed to rise the BCLK/Bus speed on 113.5 here bellow is how much more points making in CPU-z benchmark compared to the stocked CPU
View attachment 152444
I would love to know how you got that OC to workout. People often say that x99 xeons are limited to about a 5% BCLK OC so it's interesting to know how you got 13.5 on an x79 xeon. I am currently trying to get the most out of a 2696 v3 via a bclk OC but my motherboard bios doesn't natively support it, so I'll be modifying the bios and flashing it to my motherboard with a higher bus speed. I'm assuming that the 5% "limit" is because the bottleneck would be the memory controller. I don't know if my thinking is right, but I'm assuming that I could simply set my ram speed to a lower value such as 1600mhz or 1866mhz so that the memory controller isn't overwhelmed, and that way, I'll be able to OC the cpu as far as the chip lets me go? I am already using the microcode hack at -75mv so I can get 3.7Ghz all core under load. I am planning on setting the voltage to stock and possibly increasing it to accommodate the higher clocks. I'm aware that the tdp limit won't let me clock very high, but I came across this "SVID bug" that apparently removes the tdp limitations so I'm hoping that will let the cpu have no restrictions aside from voltage, clock speed, and memory controller. And like I mentioned earlier, I'm hoping that setting the ram speed to lower values will essentially remove the cpu memory controller bottleneck. From there it seems like the usual process for overclocking where you increase clocks and increase voltage to accommodate for higher clocks and rinse and repeat. Is my reasoning correct? Was there anything that you did that helped you get such a good OC on your xeon? I would love any input you may have!
 
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I would love to know how you got that OC to workout. People often say that x99 xeons are limited to about a 5% BCLK OC so it's interesting to know how you got 13.5 on an x79 xeon. I am currently trying to get the most out of a 2696 v3 via a bclk OC but my motherboard bios doesn't natively support it, so I'll be modifying the bios and flashing it to my motherboard with a higher bus speed. I'm assuming that the 5% "limit" is because the bottleneck would be the memory controller. I don't know if my thinking is right, but I'm assuming that I could simply set my ram speed to a lower value such as 1600mhz or 1866mhz so that the memory controller isn't overwhelmed, and that way, I'll be able to OC the cpu as far as the chip lets me go? I am already using the microcode hack at -75mv so I can get 3.7Ghz all core under load. I am planning on setting the voltage to stock and possibly increasing it to accommodate the higher clocks. I'm aware that the tdp limit won't let me clock very high, but I came across this "SVID bug" that apparently removes the tdp limitations so I'm hoping that will let the cpu have no restrictions aside from voltage, clock speed, and memory controller. And like I mentioned earlier, I'm hoping that setting the ram speed to lower values will essentially remove the cpu memory controller bottleneck. From there it seems like the usual process for overclocking where you increase clocks and increase voltage to accommodate for higher clocks and rinse and repeat. Is my reasoning correct? Was there anything that you did that helped you get such a good OC on your xeon? I would love any input you may have!
Hey @FISHLORD100 unfortunately you will not be able to OC that much your Xeons via BCLK on X99 it is a different story when it comes to the X79 I was able to OC 2650V2 up to the 113,5 and even more 2697V2 up to the 115,5 and both of them worked flawlessly and totally stable on those speed only issue was PCIe slot that could work only as PCIe2 because when you OC via BCLK you also rising PCIe slot so it could not handle that high OC as PCIe3 so it was working perfectly fine on PCIe2 speed(OC=15%) if you want to see some benchmarking results I made a post years ago HERE
As I said unfortunately X99 and X299 are not as good for BCLK OC as X79 or X58 majority of people as I know can't pass 102-105 BCLK on X99 and even then you could expect certain problems and issues but to reach even that OC you will probably need some good branded motherboard with nice bios options for tweaking......GL
 
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