AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT Geekbenched, Roughly 5% Faster than 3900X

[B-Real]

Phew!!

Runs Geekbench 5, My 9900K still gets 50 points higher in Single Threaded score (which is all I'm bothered about) than the 3900XT.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI with an Intel Core i9-9900K processor.

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..No need to think about upgrade until Q1 2021, with a switch to Zen 3 confirmed

So the single thread performance is equal now, as other reviews suggest it.

no one is complaining.

it is what it is,a tiny mhz bump for a pretty hefty premium.it's not good - that's why it's not getting a good reception.

There is no premium in the pricing. The 3900X was also $499 at launch.

It's up there in terms of unreliable but in this case you're basically comparing the same processor, so it's pretty spot on in terms of % gained.

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^ my 3 year old 8700K lmao. Unless zen 3 is 15-20% faster on ST it's gonna be a wait to DDR5.

And what do you want to say? AMD is on the same single thread performance level now. That is what is important. If Zen 3 is getting that rumoured 15% IPC gain, it will be better in ST scenarios.

 

[Houd.ini]

Lol its a shit deal to pay 80 bucks for 200mhz what reaction do you expect from people
You defended a massive price increase from b450 to b550 now youre complaining about people not liking the value of paying a 20 percent premium for up to 5 percent performance get real AMD has very good value options for boards and cpus why dont you focus on those instead of defending ones that everyone thinks are not

It is supposed to have the same MSRP as the 3900x, so in effect, you are complaining about the fact that resellers price the 3900x lower than MSRP.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Hmm milky.

 

[The Quim Reaper]

So the single thread performance is equal now, as other reviews suggest it.

Well, clock for clock, the Ryzen 3xxx chips are faster than the Intel CPU's in single threaded performance but their inability to maintain clock speeds as high as Intel CPU's, means the Intel chips still outperform them in single threaded workload.

I can run my 9900K all day long at 5ghz all cores, whereas the Ryzen chips will quickly drop down to 4.2-4.3 Ghz all core clock speeds under heavy load, negating any IPC advantage they may have.

 

[B-Real]

Hmm milky.

Hm, no?

Ryzen 9 3900X July 7, 2019 US $499

Well, clock for clock, the Ryzen 3xxx chips are faster than the Intel CPU's in single threaded performance but their inability to maintain clock speeds as high as Intel CPU's, means the Intel chips still outperform them in single threaded workload.

I can run my 9900K all day long at 5ghz all cores, whereas the Ryzen chips will quickly drop down to 4.2-4.3 Ghz all core clock speeds under heavy load, negating any IPC advantage they may have.

I'm assuming the clocks will rise too, so.

And what about the power consumption, what about the temperatures? What about the multithread performance? What about pricing? What about the price of the extra cooler?

 

[springs113]

What a joke. Today you can get a 3900X for $419, while the 5% faster 3900XT will launch at $499. This just seems like a disguised attempt by AMD to increase the prices on their CPUs.

PPL with this presumption baffles me. No once is forcing you to buy it. Show me a 12 core Intel with this amount of performance for this price...i'll wait and continue to wait. Utterly ridiculous complaining about such a thing. They also didn't include a cooler because they recommended something better than what they have to keep the cpu in check. Quit whining and buy a cheaper sku or go Intel. It's as simple as that. I remember buying a 5930k in 2014 for about $500, yet you're complaining about a cpu with double the cores for the same or less price, people need to get real.

 

[Makaveli]

Phew!!

Runs Geekbench 5, My 9900K still gets 50 points higher in Single Threaded score (which is all I'm bothered about) than the 3900XT.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI with an Intel Core i9-9900K processor.

browser.geekbench.com

..No need to think about upgrade until Q1 2021, with a switch to Zen 3 confirmed

In your position I would actually wait until zen 4.

Instead of x570 and zen 3 at the end of its life cycle. For those currently on AM4 its make more sense.

 

[Darksword]

Here's my 10900K @ 5.2Ghz all core for comparison. I have a feeling Zen 3 is going to completely annihilate this thing.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

Lol its a shit deal to pay 80 bucks for 200mhz what reaction do you expect from people
You defended a massive price increase from b450 to b550 now youre complaining about people not liking the value of paying a 20 percent premium for up to 5 percent performance get real AMD has very good value options for boards and cpus why dont you focus on those instead of defending ones that everyone thinks are not

You are a funny person. Admit you are complaining for no rational reason and leave the other conversations for their respective threads. It's fine to not like the xt series, but to try and rationalize your non existent reasons is just sad. Don't like them? Don't buy them.

 

[menis-legend]

Why pay more for 5% performance boost. Ryzen's come unlocked anyway so OC it yourself or get the motherboard do it for you.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

Why pay more for 5% performance boost. Ryzen's come unlocked anyway so OC it yourself or get the motherboard do it for you.

It's not exactly that simple. The XT s will probably be better binned chips, the reviews will tell the story. Now, are they worth it? Imo no. I have a 3900x I don't intend to change it for anything with less than 25% performance boost, so, even ryzen 3 will probably not be enough for me to go through the expense or the trouble. But, different people, different situations. It rests on the personal responsibility of the consumer. So, inform yourself as thoroughly as possible and then choose whatever fits your use case.

 

[menis-legend]

It's not exactly that simple. The XT s will probably be better binned chips, the reviews will tell the story. Now, are they worth it? Imo no. I have a 3900x I don't intend to change it for anything with less than 25% performance boost, so, even ryzen 3 will probably not be enough for me to go through the expense or the trouble. But, different people, different situations. It rests on the personal responsibility of the consumer. So, inform yourself as thoroughly as possible and then choose whatever fits your use case.

Yeah i agree be a better binned chip but OC a 3900X will outperform the XT if you don't OC it... I agree with the prices there at you want a good boost to even think about getting one. Which will be at this rate Ryzen 5000 series as the die can't get much smallest

 

[ratirt]

a lot of hypocrites here I see.
The 3900XT with 5% boost in performance is launching at the MSRP price of the 3900X while the latter one is going cheaper. How is that bad?
Would you rather want AMD call that 3900XT next gen like Intel did with CPUs? Even the performance bump is the same 3%-5% from gen to gen. One exception, no price boost.
I think it is good for AMD and customers to have another, slightly better option. They have stock of CPUs why not release it?

 

[Pumper]

The 3900XT with 5% boost in performance is launching at the MSRP price of the 3900X while the latter one is going cheaper. How is that bad?

You assume that AMD will keep making the X CPUs.

 

[ratirt]

You assume that AMD will keep making the X CPUs.

I didn't assume it will. Why? These CPUs are still in the market and selling. 3900XT the new CPU 5% better than the "X" one at the same price. Even if the "X" CPUs are no longer available what does it change?

 

[BoboOOZ]

You assume that AMD will keep making the X CPUs.

XT chips are high-quality binned silicon. Do you imagine AMD will make only these, and stop producing the lower tiers? Physics doesn't work that way. There will continue to exist 3 or four tiers per variant.

People, stop obsessing about these. It's the same debate as with x vs non-X or 3700x vs 3800x, buy the more expensive piece only if the price differential is very reasonable or if you're the type of person who absolutely needs the maximum performance for peace of mind. Otherwise, buy the vanilla version. In spite of the generally accepted advice, I bought a 3600XT because it was only 8 euro more than the 3600. More choice is always more better!

MSRP doesn't matter much, what matters is offer vs demand, this is what will determine the price, and we'll see where that goes once the pc market becomes less chaotic.

 

[menis-legend]

a lot of hypocrites here I see.
The 3900XT with 5% boost in performance is launching at the MSRP price of the 3900X while the latter one is going cheaper. How is that bad?
Would you rather want AMD call that 3900XT next gen like Intel did with CPUs? Even the performance bump is the same 3%-5% from gen to gen. One exception, no price boost.
I think it is good for AMD and customers to have another, slightly better option. They have stock of CPUs why not release it?

It's not anything against AMD if you already have a Ryzen 3900X or even a 1900X and a 2900X why upgrade to it for little performance gain ? But hey if your rolling a FX CPU or even a intel quad core the gains going to be massive jump on it seems should be cheaper.

 

[arbiter]

Correct if i am wrong but on top of 20% more you don't even get a cooler with the 3900xt? So instead of being 20% more more like 30% since you get less in the box and have to buy a 3rd party cooler? Better off just getting 3900x and bump the clocks 200 mhz since it would be easy thing to do.

 

[ratirt]

It's not anything against AMD if you already have a Ryzen 3900X or even a 1900X and a 2900X why upgrade to it for little performance gain ? But hey if your rolling a FX CPU or even a intel quad core the gains going to be massive jump on it seems should be cheaper.

A lot of people wait with the purchase. Of course there is no reason but if you don't have any new PC, if you go with the XT version you don't pay more than people that have upgraded few weeks back. I wouldn't buy the XT now because my 2700X serves me well and I plan to upgrade later when the new Ryzen CPUs show up.