Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Mussels · Jun 29, 2020

tabascosauz said:
Looks like some form of clock stretching? I get higher scores than your 4.3 result just running without PBO @ 4.075-4.15GHz all core normal boost...are you using Ryzen Master for OC? RM does all sorts of weird things to clocks and scores.

You have faster ram than i do, and i OC'd in BIOS only.

2700x is now at 4.1GHz all core, 1.3125V - 55C load in torture tests, prior to the lapping that thing would always be 80C on that cooler.

tabascosauz · Jun 29, 2020

Mussels said:
You have faster ram than i do, and i OC'd in BIOS only.

2700x is now at 4.1GHz all core, 1.3125V - 55C load in torture tests, prior to the lapping that thing would always be 80C on that cooler.

CB should be relatively unaffected by RAM speed, especially between 3200/16 and 3600/16. RAM speed definitely not a larger difference than CPU speed.

tabascosauz · Jul 1, 2020

A quick heads-up for anyone considering B550: AMD apparently doesn't like high boost clocks and Vcore in Cinebench R20. It now looks like it has a multiplier offset in CB R20 on the newest firmwares. As far as I can tell, they previously did this to Prime95 very, very early after Ryzen 3000's launch, where for a very short time, you could get Ryzen 3000 running AVX Prime95 Small/Smallest at near-full all-core speeds as it devolved into a fireball.

I've now tried two midrange B550 mATX boards, and new AGESA v2 1.0.0.0/1.0.0.1/1.0.0.2 shipped with release or early BIOSes on B550 boards appears to limit them both to the same sub-4GHz all-core speeds in Cinebench. The similarity of the scores between the ASRock and Asus make me think that the Mortar and Aorus Pro probably behave the same way as well.

Just yesterday with my B450 ITX board which has been on the original 1.0.0.4B BIOS (F50) for months, I was benching 4950-5050 points bone stock, no PBO. Clocks always start at 41.5-41.8x, slowly dropping as the test goes on.
With the B550M Steel Legend (which, sadly, had other firmware issues to worry about) scores were consistently between 4770-4800, and the B550M TUF Wifi is exactly the same at precisely 4778. All-core clocks never peak past 39.8x. Temperatures are similarly low, more than 5 degrees less than previously.

I did lose a few points in CPU-Z compared to the Aorus ITX (519/5570 vs. 525/5640), but I can chalk that one up to inherently compact power plane of ITX boards, the superior IR35201 controller, and a more relaxed Vcore attitude on the Asus. The ASRock was absolutely tanking at 490/5100 in CPU-Z, there's clearly something wrong with that board. The clocks that the TUF sustains in CPU-Z is competitive with the Aorus ITX, anyways, at around 41.25x max.

On the other hand, the difference in Cinebench is drastic and seems to point quite assuredly to something having been done in the firmware. I've also not been able to make PBO work on either the ASRock or Asus board to try and mitigate the effect of the lower frequency; any PBO settings whatsoever other than Disabled introduces severe and unpredictable instability from wildly variable scores to errors and sudden crashes. Same goes for Asus' recently touted "ASUS Performance Enhancement / APE" feature that's a part of the latest BIOS. Best left off for now.

We'll see how it goes. At the very least, the TUF's AX200 Wifi is excellent, the Realtek 2.5 is excellent, the CPU is stable, and BIOS is easy to use in typical ASUS fashion, so it's not given me a reason to switch to yet another board.

Obviously, manual overclocks should not be affected. Given the stellar quality of new Matisse batches easily achieving in excess of 4.3GHz at 1.2V or less, that may be the way to go for now.

Mussels · Jul 1, 2020

tabascosauz said:
Obviously, manual overclocks should not be affected. Given the stellar quality of new Matisse batches easily achieving in excess of 4.3GHz at 1.2V or less, that may be the way to go for now.

So glad mines one of those, 4.3 at 1.2V rock solid... i'm tempted to try lower volts and/or raising the BCLK for tiny little gains.

entropy13 · Jul 1, 2020

I'll be here regularly soon...

pantherx12 · Jul 1, 2020

Best cinebench scores today. After poking the reseller for ages finally got a bios update and what a difference!

10c reduction in load temperatures whilst running a combined CPU/GPU load and around an 8c difference when running cinebench.

Means the CPU has more room to stretch it's legs, I beleive before there may of been a possitive voltage offset applied before so it run into PPT limits and thermal limits to the point where laptop would thermal shutdown whilst playing metro exodus.

This is all stock settings, the best bit about this fans didn't go over 50% whilst running these cinebench runs whereas before they'd be hitting 100% easily.

Mussels · Jul 3, 2020

Wish me luck bois!

Shou Miko · Jul 3, 2020

Mussels said:
Wish me luck bois!

Oh the itx board is like e of f strix version you would need more them luck :roll:

I been thinking about updating my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC but haven't got around to it.

Mussels · Jul 3, 2020

puma99dk| said:
Oh the itx board is like e of f strix version you would need more them luck

I been thinking about updating my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC but haven't got around to it.

the ITX is more like the x470 board, its heaps better than the B450-E

so far no issues, no shocker there with an all core manual OC.

Shou Miko · Jul 3, 2020

Mussels said:
the ITX is more like the x470 board, its heaps better than the B450-E

so far no issues, no shocker there with an all core manual OC.

What does the AGESA 1.0.0.6 bring to the table I can't find much information.

Mussels · Jul 3, 2020

puma99dk| said:
What does the AGESA 1.0.0.6 bring to the table I can't find much information.

XT support is my guess, and possibly initial support for the 4000 series chips

PerfectWave · Jul 3, 2020

CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 7803
"01. [E] Improve system performance.
02. Update AMD AM4 AGESA Combo PI V1 1.0.0.6

scared to death to do the upgrade. Now my system works perfectly. Before i had tons of kernel power error then i magically press the reset bios button and finally my system is almost perfect.

BTW still waiting the new bios from gigabyte for my aourus gaming 7 x470 wifi

toilet pepper · Jul 3, 2020

puma99dk| said:
Oh the itx board is like e of f strix version you would need more them luck

I been thinking about updating my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC but haven't got around to it.

I got the same board and a 3600. Nothing changed much. PBO is still broken and negative voltage offset still doesnt work.

They added a few more memory profiles for memtry it. And you can select higher memory frequencies now. I was able to run my 32gig ram to 3800mhz cl 16 1:1 at 1.38V and it seems stable.

biffzinker · Jul 3, 2020

toilet pepper said:
They added a few more memory profiles for memtry it. And you can select higher memory frequencies now.

There was also a new skip memory training option that's enabled after the BIOS update. Does reduce the POST wait time before Windows starts to boot.

Memory Fast Boot [Enabled]

heky · Jul 4, 2020

I just flashed the newest beta BIOS for my board. It has the new AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2 and i must say i am impressed. It boots even faster now and the voltage control got better. Also getting much lower idle voltage. Now the max idle and single core load voltage for my chip is 1.46v, was 1.504v before.

Just a quick CB R20 and Aida64 run. Both at CPU Stock, PBO disabled, Ram at 3800 Cl16 @ 1.38v. Added Cpuz, just for fun.

GoldenX · Jul 4, 2020

Waiting for my B450 one, I hope Gigabyte doesn't lag too much behind.

AsRock · Jul 4, 2020

Just about to update mine, apparently they had it ready on the 2nd :eek:

).

Update AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 V2 1.0.0.2

entropy13 · Jul 4, 2020

entropy13 said:
I'll be here regularly soon...

After 5 Intel CPUs...

heky · Jul 4, 2020

entropy13 said:
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After 5 Intel CPUs...

Welcome to the bright side?! :roll:

entropy13 · Jul 4, 2020

heky said:
Welcome to the bright side?!

Also, getting more than 4 cores. LOL

Mussels · Jul 4, 2020

I have per CCX clocking in the BIOS now, so i can set the two of them at different clocks and voltages

havent messed with it, but dayumn its a nice addition

heky · Jul 4, 2020

Mussels said:
I have per CCX clocking in the BIOS now, so i can set the two of them at different clocks and voltages

havent messed with it, but dayumn its a nice addition

Wait, you can set per CCX voltages? I mean i had per CCX clocking in the BIOS since day one, but per CCX voltages sounds awesome.

Mussels · Jul 4, 2020

heky said:
Wait, you can set per CCX voltages? I mean i had per CCX clocking in the BIOS since day one, but per CCX voltages sounds awesome.

I just double checked, its one voltage and two sets of multi options for me (two CCX's)

so sadly no, no differing volts

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 4, 2020

Mussels said:
You have faster ram than i do, and i OC'd in BIOS only.

2700x is now at 4.1GHz all core, 1.3125V - 55C load in torture tests, prior to the lapping that thing would always be 80C on that cooler.

Wow that's an add for lapping there good results on temperature.

HenrySomeone · Jul 4, 2020

PerfectWave said:
vega and ryzen will do damn good cos of infinity fabric

OMG, just noticed this - in retrospect, this is comedy gold!

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard	Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Memory	Kingston Fury Beast DDR5-5600 16GBx2
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Gaming OC AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB
Storage	TEAMGROUP T-Force Z440 2TB, SPower A60 2TB, SPower A55 2TB, Seagate 4TBx2
Display(s)	AOC 24G2 + Xitrix WFP-2415
Case	Montech Air X
Audio Device(s)	Realtek onboard
Power Supply	Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 750W 80+ Gold
Mouse	Logitech G Pro X Superlight Wireless
Keyboard	Royal Kludge RK-S98 Tri-Mode RGB Mechanical Keyboard
Software	Windows 10

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Video Card(s)	MSI Ventus 3x 3070
Storage	2tb intel nvme and 2tb generic ssd
Display(s)	Generic dell 1080p overclocked to 75hz
Case	Phanteks enthoo
Power Supply	650w of borderline fire hazard
Mouse	Some wierd Chinese vertical mouse
Keyboard	Generic mechanical keyboard
Software	Windows ten

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Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Raphael (Waiting on 9800X3D) \ i5-1135G7 Tiger Lake-U
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Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Logitech K520
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26216445

System Name	Ciel / Akane
Processor	AMD Ryzen R5 5600X / Intel Core i3 12100F
Motherboard	Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus / Biostar H610MHP
Cooling	ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic / Stock
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz / 2x 8GB Patriot 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	Gainward Ghost RTX 3060 Ti / Dell GTX 1660 SUPER
Storage	NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB / NVMe WD Blue SN550 512GB
Display(s)	AOC Q27G3XMN / Samsung S22F350
Case	Cougar MX410 Mesh-G / Generic
Audio Device(s)	Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC
Power Supply	Aerocool KCAS-500W / Gigabyte P450B
Mouse	EVGA X15 / Logitech G203
Keyboard	VSG Alnilam / Dell
Software	Windows 11

Processor	AMD 3900X \ AMD 7700X
Motherboard	ASRock AM4 X570 Pro 4 \ ASUS X670Xe TUF
Cooling	D15
Memory	Patriot 2x16GB PVS432G320C6K \ G.Skill Flare X5 F5-6000J3238F 2x16GB
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Power Supply	Seasonic Prime TX-750 \ Corsair RM1000X Shift
Mouse	Steelseries Sensei wireless \ Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard	Logitech K120 \ Wooting Two HE
Benchmark Scores	Meh benchmarks.

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
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Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	laptop Timespy 6506