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I'm fed up with Firefox but the alternatives are no good either.

Font rendering on Chrome is blurry and annoying.

I might try the new Edge, don't have a lot of hopes since its based on Chrome.

Edit:

View attachment 161405 View attachment 161406

The new Edge is just a lame version of Chrome.
For fonys get the font changer extension and select one of the Google fonts
 
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not saying you're crazy, the one reply you made you make it sound like there are only 3 browsers choose from.
 

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not saying you're crazy, the one reply you made you make it sound like there are only 3 browsers choose from.

If you look at the screenshots from the other thread, you'll see all browsers produce exactly the same fonts according to the used engine.
 
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Someone explain what the problem is, because I don't understand what are you talking about.
 

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Not a Firefox fan, Thankfully being a Seamonkey user none of this shit happens.

I don't need the Ultra clean annoying interface,
 

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True, but the text/font rendering engine is pretty much the same(AFAIK) so @Regeneration experience would not improve as he wants anti-aliasing filters applied to fonts. It's been a bit since I used SeaMonkey last, does it have AA font rendering?

Yes it does according to him, but low on his list apparently :p.

 

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Is font AA really that important to you?

Clear and pretty text, performance, support for the latest standards, and ad blocker (extension or built in).

SeaMonkey is based on Firefox code..

Not a Firefox fan, Thankfully being a Seamonkey user none of this shit happens.

I don't need the Ultra clean annoying interface,

SeaMonkey was the first browser I tried from the list. It has 2 old-school themes: classic Firefox and Netscape. :love:

However, performance isn't great and the engine appears outdated (based on FF 60).

Someone explain what the problem is, because I don't understand what are you talking about.

Mozilla are assholes, the competition have ugly fonts, and except of few, all other browsers are clones of Chrome.
 
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Well, I don't understand the problem with the address bar. What about visually impared? It's an address bar. I see no problem with it.
What are you on about?
 

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Every update Mozilla makes some stupid change to the UI instead of useful ones like performance tweaks and such.

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Address bar doesn't need to be highlighted like this. Looks like it wants to eat you.
 
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OP, based on your join date, you've been around for a while, so I'm sure you are aware of it to some level, but .. have you considered simply going the ESR route?

I started on the ESR route some years ago, and as a result I've mostly forgotten about the Mozilla drama.

Edit: Side question: Am I the only one who instintively hits the Alt key anytime I want to access Firefox's menu? I've found I click the 'three hamburger' icon only on rare occasion.
 

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OP, based on your join date, you've been around for a while, so I'm sure you are aware of it to some level, but .. have you considered simply going the ESR route?

I started on the ESR route some years ago, and as a result I've mostly forgotten about the Mozilla drama.

Edit: Side question: Am I the only one who instintively hits the Alt key anytime I want to access Firefox's menu? I've found I click the 'three hamburger' icon only on rare occasion.

So far the best advice here. And no, the menu appears everytime Alt is pressed, even in the background, so its a easier way. Multilingual people use Alt very often.
 
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Well, I don't understand the problem with the address bar. What about visually impared? It's an address bar. I see no problem with it.
What are you on about?

As a visually impaired Firefox user, I find the highlighted address bar quite handy. Since I use a theme though, it doesn't have the blue bar around it. It does, however, light up when I mouse over it. Still handy!
 
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Mozilla are assholes
I can't agree with this. They're doing things some(you included) don't like, but doesn't make them aholes. They respect your privacy, actively protect same and they go out of their way to provide a very secure browsing experience for every platform commonly in use. Chrome, Edge? Forget about privacy and security... Sorry mate, Firefox may have a few annoyances but it's the best out there, full stop, end of discussion.
 

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Firefox ESR with these about:config changes:

gfx.canvas.azure.backends set to direct2d1.1,cairo,skia
gfx.content.azure.backends set to direct2d1.1,cairo,skia
gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode set to 2

Produces the best fonts on a regular DPI:

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Firefox ESR with these about:config changes:

gfx.canvas.azure.backends set to direct2d1.1,cairo,skia
gfx.content.azure.backends set to direct2d1.1,cairo,skia
gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode set to 2

Produces the best fonts on a regular DPI:

View attachment 161754
That bottom line looks better. Still looks a bit janky, but much improved.
 
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