TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[Nordic]

Keep up the good work Phill. Hopefully it isn't too much of a bother for you.

 

[phill]

Keep up the good work Phill. Hopefully it isn't too much of a bother for you.

I guess with the data I collect, it's nearly an hour a day to update and collect but I'm thinking of others and hoping that it helps someone, so I'm pretty sure I can spare an hour That said, when I go back to work properly after all this COVID stuff, I'll be happy to take an hour out my day!!

The team side of things is rather easy... Everyone here is brilliant and I've seen no cause for any worry or concern at all. Even with the added Moderator status for the section and such.. I can say I'm fairly ok with everything right now

If anyone has any suggestions or wishes me to do things differently, I'm all ears so please just suggest away !!

 

[Peter1986C]

That's just awesome @windwhirl !!

I had a similar PM from the good man himself @stinger608 saying that he'd actually received this email this time!! I was going through a few tabs in my Chrome browser and noticed I was logged in and then went back a few times and I think it must have sent the message again!! Not quite what I was expecting to be honest mate!!

Still, was there anyone who didn't get another copy of the message at all??.... lol

I got it twice so far

Same here.

As of a few weeks ago, I am officially on Crunching hiatus
I don't want to to strain my barely working central AC unit (some estimates put it at almost as old as me...) in the summer heat.
I have also been dealing with a host of medical issues (went to the ER twice since Thursday) and a botched foot surgery that happened in February. Most likely needs redone.
I hope to be back when it cools off or if I get a new AC unit (most likely in the Fall)

We understand sir. Priorities.
You better first get better and then see about that AC. After that you could always get back to crunching.

Get well soon and hang in there.

 

[4x4n]

New toy

Went all in on the RGB. Don't know if I'll leave it like this, but here it is for now.

 

[bogmali]

Nice!

 

[phill]

You lucky man @4x4n !! What do you think?? Impressed??

 

[bogmali]

Old School project coming online in a few days, will be adding to my stables.

EDIT:

Build complete and tested a few WCG runs. Still waiting for 2 more sticks of Sammy wonderRAM, which will be here tis weekend and then I will add her to the stable.

 

[phill]

The writing on the CPU is just ever so slightly in the light to see the last few digits of the CPU model! Damn it! lol

 

[bogmali]

The writing on the CPU is just ever so slightly in the light to see the last few digits of the CPU model! Damn it! lol

E-5 2660 V2

 

[phill]

Will be a decent cruncher I'm sure The two in my R620 aren't bad and the power consumption isn't terrible either!!

 

[4x4n]

You lucky man @4x4n !! What do you think?? Impressed??

Pretty happy with it so far, haven't had much time to mess with it. At first just loaded optimized defaults and made sure PBO was on. All core boost was 3950-4100 and vcore was up to 1.35. Temps went into the 70's. Also, auto on SOC voltage was 1.32 Had read that most chips would do all core 4000 around 1.1v so started with that and changed SOC to 1.0v. Just took it up to 4.1, still at 1.1v vcore, temps are high 50's to low 60's. My kill-a-watt is showing 215-220 watts. The 2695 Xeon I have uses just under 200 watts and produces less than half of what this chip does.

 

[phill]

Pretty happy with it so far, haven't had much time to mess with it. At first just loaded optimized defaults and made sure PBO was on. All core boost was 3950-4100 and vcore was up to 1.35. Temps went into the 70's. Also, auto on SOC voltage was 1.32 Had read that most chips would do all core 4000 around 1.1v so started with that and changed SOC to 1.0v. Just took it up to 4.1, still at 1.1v vcore, temps are high 50's to low 60's. My kill-a-watt is showing 215-220 watts. The 2695 Xeon I have uses just under 200 watts and produces less than half of what this chip does.

Auto seems to be very poor for these CPUs, the power usage is high and some of the volts seem to be a complete waste...

I did a bit of a test with my 3900X, auto volts (around 1.45vcore ish?) down to what I run it at now, 1.0vcore, I find it still boosts to 4.20GHz, temps are some 30C lower than what they where through the Rzyen software, It's a big ass difference!! I think at worse case, my watt meter showed 275w under CPU load on, but with the locked 1.0vcore in, I was seeing a 100w or so less than that... So I just tend to leave it there and let it carry on Gaming seems to be fine too with my triple 1080P screens and two 1080 TI's installed... I'm not complaining but I'd love to swap it out with a 3950X instead

 

[phill]

Stats are a little messed up today guys, when I get things sorted with the family and such, I'll update them as soon as I can

Apologies for the delay in advance!!

 

[manofthem]

Salutations all!. It's been a while to be sure, but I'm hoping to get back into things in the coming weeks. Still rocking the old 1600x, which I just fired back up, but I'm planning a few hardware changes in the near future. Had no idea that there's now a COVID project, but that's cool to see.

@phill great to see you rocking as Team Captain, leader, and mod!

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Salutations all!. It's been a while to be sure,

DUDE!

 

[phill]

I'm here to help in anyway I can, hopefully I can at some point, somewhere, sometime...

Great to have you around again @manofthem

 

[manofthem]

Auto seems to be very poor for these CPUs, the power usage is high and some of the volts seem to be a complete waste...

I did a bit of a test with my 3900X, auto volts (around 1.45vcore ish?) down to what I run it at now, 1.0vcore, I find it still boosts to 4.20GHz, temps are some 30C lower than what they where through the Rzyen software, It's a big ass difference!! I think at worse case, my watt meter showed 275w under CPU load on, but with the locked 1.0vcore in, I was seeing a 100w or so less than that... So I just tend to leave it there and let it carry on Gaming seems to be fine too with my triple 1080P screens and two 1080 TI's installed... I'm not complaining but I'd love to swap it out with a 3950X instead

I appreciate this post, as well as the one higher up by @4x4n. Last night I ordered a 3900x, so this info will help guide me once I get it up and running.

Initially I'm going to try to update the bios on my current x370 Taichi and see if it'll run. If there prove to be difficulties with that idea, I'll have to get a new board.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Initially I'm going to try to update the bios on my current x370 Taichi and see if it'll run.

Asrock says it will work.

 

[manofthem]

Asrock says it will work.

It seems that in order to get it working, I have to do a few flashes. The current bios is running P3.20, and they say I have to flash the P3.30 and then P5.10 before flashing a bios that supports Ryzen 3.

Today I'll decide whether to do all of that, or just order a new motherboard. It wouldn't be anything high end, just a midrange board.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Maybe this will help:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...r-pictured-8-channel-ddr4.269557/post-4306054

AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

We don't even know if Intel will allow PCIe 4.0 on z490 let alone a new(er) gen CPU with native PCIe 4.0 on it. Having said that (more) options is a good thing, would be interesting if the x6xx MB from AMD will have dual support for DDR4/5 & possibly more than 2 gens of CPU supported. My...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[manofthem]

Maybe this will help:
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...r-pictured-8-channel-ddr4.269557/post-4306054

AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

We don't even know if Intel will allow PCIe 4.0 on z490 let alone a new(er) gen CPU with native PCIe 4.0 on it. Having said that (more) options is a good thing, would be interesting if the x6xx MB from AMD will have dual support for DDR4/5 & possibly more than 2 gens of CPU supported. My...

www.techpowerup.com

That is certainly a help and encouragement, thanks for finding and posting.

My main concern, I guess, is that my wife has been my using pc more far more often over the past few months, probably more than I use it. So need to figure if I should just keep the current setup (most of it) for her and then build another one, or just keep and upgrade the single pc.

Either way, I'm looking forward to the seeing some nice ppd with the 3900x when it's finally setup.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

You know us. We're always in favor of building another PC.

 

[4x4n]

Finally had some with the 3950x this weekend. Ran WCG for about an hour at all core 4.25ghz, 1.25v. Ram at 3600, 16-16-16-36. Only needed 1.00v SOC for this. Power usage was 290-295 watts with temps in the mid 70's.

Also tried to do individual CCX clocking but I need to read up more on that.

I think there is more in this chip but the temps and power usage really start to go up as you increase the clocks. The sweet spot does seem to be 4.1ghz with 1.10v. Running it there has been averaging around 35k a day. I can keep my fans around 1000rpm which is nice and quiet, temps stay high 50's low 60's.

If we get a stretch of hot weather I might shut it down for a bit, but I think at these settings I can keep it going though the summer.

 

[phill]

It seems that in order to get it working, I have to do a few flashes. The current bios is running P3.20, and they say I have to flash the P3.30 and then P5.10 before flashing a bios that supports Ryzen 3.

Today I'll decide whether to do all of that, or just order a new motherboard. It wouldn't be anything high end, just a midrange board.

Grab something worthy of your cash is my only personal recommendation. Depending if you wish to use the rig or just crunch on it that's another question but I tried not to skimp on the Ryzen boards I've bought so far

My 3900X runs at 4.20GHz @ 1.00vcore. I've not messed about with the manual overclocking, all I have done with it is to set the XMP, test the volts (I'm on air cooling at the moment... ) and go from there.

With auto volts which was around 1.45vcore ish, power draw was around 280w or so, plus temps after just a minute were hitting into the 90C's.
I tested all the way down to 0.9vcore until I updated my bios and then 0.90vcore stopped working, but 1.00vcore seems to be the perfect spot for this CPU. Today max temps have been 56C, anywhere from 50C to 55C I think is the sweet spot and bearing in mind this is just an 14D sat on top of the CPU no securing or anything of it, I'm dead pleased (however it does need a clean...)

Folding/crunching/mining, they all have one thing in common for me and that's to never push the CPU, just let it go along gently and as constant as possible without trying to gain every last % of performance from it. From what I've been hearing some of these 3000 CPUs they have become degraded after long use now how true that is, I'm not sure, this is however the internet so... Probably not that true... Maybe?? Jayztwocents last video mentioned about it, but I haven't run the CPU anywhere near it's 'normal' volts for just this reason and more so to keep the temps and power consumption down. Which I didn't mention... Idle, gets as low as about 80w, underload, it doubles to just 160w to 170w depending on the type of work unit it's doing.. I thought that was pretty impressive??

Apologies for the ramblings but, I hoped my experiences with the CPU will be helpful, to someone at least

 

[manofthem]

Finally had some with the 3950x this weekend. Ran WCG for about an hour at all core 4.25ghz, 1.25v. Ram at 3600, 16-16-16-36. Only needed 1.00v SOC for this. Power usage was 290-295 watts with temps in the mid 70's.

Also tried to do individual CCX clocking but I need to read up more on that.

I think there is more in this chip but the temps and power usage really start to go up as you increase the clocks. The sweet spot does seem to be 4.1ghz with 1.10v. Running it there has been averaging around 35k a day. I can keep my fans around 1000rpm which is nice and quiet, temps stay high 50's low 60's.

If we get a stretch of hot weather I might shut it down for a bit, but I think at these settings I can keep it going though the summer.

That's quite an impressive chip and settings. Thanks for posting this information, as it'll give me something to compare to, even though it's a slightly different cpu.

I feel your pain about the hot weather! Today it was about 97 with a head index of 107, not ideal for much of anything.

Grab something worthy of your cash is my only personal recommendation. Depending if you wish to use the rig or just crunch on it that's another question but I tried not to skimp on the Ryzen boards I've bought so far

My 3900X runs at 4.20GHz @ 1.00vcore. I've not messed about with the manual overclocking, all I have done with it is to set the XMP, test the volts (I'm on air cooling at the moment... ) and go from there.

With auto volts which was around 1.45vcore ish, power draw was around 280w or so, plus temps after just a minute were hitting into the 90C's.
I tested all the way down to 0.9vcore until I updated my bios and then 0.90vcore stopped working, but 1.00vcore seems to be the perfect spot for this CPU. Today max temps have been 56C, anywhere from 50C to 55C I think is the sweet spot and bearing in mind this is just an 14D sat on top of the CPU no securing or anything of it, I'm dead pleased (however it does need a clean...)

Folding/crunching/mining, they all have one thing in common for me and that's to never push the CPU, just let it go along gently and as constant as possible without trying to gain every last % of performance from it. From what I've been hearing some of these 3000 CPUs they have become degraded after long use now how true that is, I'm not sure, this is however the internet so... Probably not that true... Maybe?? Jayztwocents last video mentioned about it, but I haven't run the CPU anywhere near it's 'normal' volts for just this reason and more so to keep the temps and power consumption down. Which I didn't mention... Idle, gets as low as about 80w, underload, it doubles to just 160w to 170w depending on the type of work unit it's doing.. I thought that was pretty impressive??

Apologies for the ramblings but, I hoped my experiences with the CPU will be helpful, to someone at least

Also, thanks for posting this valuable info.

As far as boards go, what would you recommend? Unfortunately I have to keep it to around $250. I will be attempting to give the bios update a go for now, so I may simply grab a different board down the line even if the flash works.

The plan is to keep this rig going on wcg as much as possible, some random gaming if I have time (haven't in a long time), as well as some work for work.