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Intel Hit by a Devastating Data Breach, Chip Designs, Code, Possible Backdoors Leaked

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Do you think the alleged back doors are worth worry then or not so much?.
Haven’t looked at it in detail, but doubt any backdoors will be indicated as such in plain text, and certainly not visible at this access level
 
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Apart from that, if you password protect a zip file it's useless. The only ones really strong is RAR that could not even be broken with a cluster of GPU's in a reasonabel timespan. Aka the password protection on zip is very weak and could be bruteforced in matter of minutes.
That may be true for the original ZIP encryption techniques but modern ZIP programs like newer versions of WinZIP, 7Zip, and PowerArchiver all support AES 256-bit encryption that if you combine it with a long enough password well, all I can say is... Good luck son, you're going to need it. A twenty-character length password consisting of random stuff is going to take the age of the universe and then some to crack.
 
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A backdoor build in by intel is'nt a unreal situation either. But if there is any solid proof for that, then Intel is screwed. Getting to the public that backdoors in Intel CPU's do exist and can be exploited to this day is just game over.
It's called ME, and it allows them to control your computer if they so wished.
 
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Yup looks similar to what i see with my gpuz developer nda
Do they also force backdoors on you too? Asking for a friend. ;)

Has anyone actually seen what's inside that zip file?
Well, unzipped files, doh!

That may be true for the original ZIP encryption techniques but modern ZIP programs like newer versions of WinZIP, 7Zip, and PowerArchiver all support AES 256-bit encryption that if you combine it with a long enough password well, all I can say is... Good luck son, you're going to need it. A twenty-character length password consisting of random stuff is going to take the age of the universe and then some to crack.
Not with a quantum computer it isn't. AES is not a quantum-resistant algo.

A backdoor build in by intel is'nt a unreal situation either. But if there is any solid proof for that, then Intel is screwed.
If Snowden et al taught us something, it's that masses don't give a damn. People are still willingly posting their entire lives online.
 
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Almost certainly the "Intel123" password stems from an arbitrary corporate policy that any archives shared with third parties are password-protected so that, in the case of such a leak, there isn't a single password that can access all the archives.

Of course, because keeping track of a billion different passwords is a fucking nightmare, the end result is predictably that everyone uses the same stupidly weak password for everything. So the policy, like pretty much all policies that involve passwords, ends up having no effect besides pissing people off.

Today at 3:34 AM Low quality post by Mussels

As a moderator-- maybe if were professional and set a good example we would have better comments over all, and my ignore list could be less extensive?

People are still getting triggered by Internet comments about their imaginary sky deities in 2020? Wow.

Not with a quantum computer it isn't. AES is not a quantum-resistant algo.

What a moronic "argument". How many functional quantum computers are there, again?
 
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What a moronic "argument". How many functional quantum computers are there, again?
I'm with @Assimilator here, quantum computers are still very much in the experimental phase and nowhere near being useful to do any kind of major computing.
Not with a quantum computer it isn't. AES is not a quantum-resistant algo.
When and if quantum computers actually become a usable computer, then come back and talk to me about AES encryption being able to be cracked. Until that happens, AES is about as uncrackable as encryption possibly can get.
 
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Hurry amd, get copies of this data while you can, so you can keep your Saudi investors happy. :roll:
 
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Hurry amd, get copies of this data while you can, so you can keep your Saudi investors happy. :roll:
Like AMD didn't have access , do you not realize how close these companies have to work together to make the standards and interfaces work.
Do you not think they're testing new GPU on new Intel hardware.
 
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People are still getting triggered by Internet comments about their imaginary sky deities in 2020? Wow.

You best not be saying nothing bad about tinker bell. She taught me all I know about love. And password policies.
 
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What's worse? what happened or all the assumptions about what it really means? o_O

All of it, because it all hurts.

You best not be saying nothing bad about tinker bell. She taught me all I know about love. And password policies.

password is "tinkerbellislove,tinkerbellislife"

It's called ME, and it allows them to control your computer if they so wished.

No, not really. We've been over this before TPU. It needs a lot of things to go right before it's even useful for an arbitrary remote user, let alone Intel.

It is however a really really bad idea in general to have it in a CPU stack.
 
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No, not really. We've been over this before TPU. It needs a lot of things to go right before it's even useful for an arbitrary remote user, let alone Intel.
Wouldn't this require a hole in a corporate firewall to have access be granted? And if so, only a fool would have this kind of access open to the public Internet without having to go through a VPN router.
 
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Wouldn't this require a hole in a corporate firewall to have access be granted? And if so, only a fool would have this kind of access open to the public Internet without having to go through a VPN router.

Spot on.
 
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HAHAHAHAHA, we can safely assume that we have no slides shortages in next 4-5 years for "leaked rumours".

If the leak was caused by their own backdoor, I'll start to believe in God, that must've be divine punishment...
 

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Let's try and keep OT comments about god or religion out of this thead please. We also don't bash other people's beliefs on TPU.
 
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Another Chinese attack. The Communist Party is to blame.
 
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Hurry amd, get copies of this data while you can, so you can keep your Saudi investors happy. :roll:
Many are overestimating the usefulness of such leaked information. While it's certainly valuable in a way, but mostly to find out what the competition is planning to do, not to steal parts of its design and put into your own products.

A lot of the information in this leak is probably already known to AMD, some is shared among the companies, other through spying. And even if they could get hold of complete chip designs, it would probably be of very little use. At most, they probably could get some "inspiration" from it, but adopting other's chip design or code into your own is generally not very useful.
 

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It's called ME, and it allows them to control your computer if they so wished.
sometimes you feel like, there's something that related to national security policy. why i recall Huawei then. so basically there's no difference between two of them that fight each other
 
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nice, more of this please our distant black hat friends, and could you do AMD as well, that PSP could use a crowbar too
 
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What if performance gains brought about by the security updates are related to patched backdoors?
Let's drop the hype.
 
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password is "tinkerbellislove,tinkerbellislife"

Tinkerbell123, actually. She would scoff at yours because no numbers and Uppercase. She always told me size doesn't matter.
 
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Not sure what you are asking, please elaborate
I have a friend who is very paranoid. They were wondering if you receive orders to implement RATs or other malicious tools under the disguise of otherwise popular and legitimate software.

Now, my buddy is only lurking and never exposes themselves, so I'm their proxy. :D That's why I said I'm asking for a friend.

sometimes you feel like, there's something that related to national security policy. why i recall Huawei then. so basically there's no difference between two of them that fight each other
There is a simple truth - if they can do it, they will do it. Power and money trully corrupt everyone. Once one establishes that one is more than the 'lesser' minds, all methods of one's delusion are perfectly justified, simple psyche. Backdoors, WMD, you name it. All suddenly becomes acceptable.
 
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