CoolerMaster MasterGel Maker VS Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

[EarthDog]

1-2C difference

3-4?

 

[R-T-B]

3-4?

I doubt many common pastes have that much seperation frankly.

Liquid metal 10 degree difference from conventional paste is my general experience. Consistently. Makes sense since it's actually a ball of metal.

 

[EarthDog]

I doubt many common pastes have that much seperation frankly.

Liquid metal 10 degree difference from conventional paste is my general experience. Consistently. Makes sense since it's actually a ball of metal.

It's less than many may think.

Best Thermal Paste for CPUs 2025: Over 50 Compounds Tested and Ranked

The right thermal paste will improve performance.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[RedDorki]

So for those who are crying about AS5, did you have followed the instructions on the site of AS5 and took the curing time in mind ? Plus, did the reviewers have taken the tinting of the cooler and metal cap in mind, which breaks down the curing time. Nowhere is this mentioned in the review of Tomshardware, nor the 16 hours of testing is enough for this compound to perform at peak (curing time is between 50 & 200 hours) ?

It's easy to judge performance as bad, if the instructions by the manufacturer are being neglected.

 

[EarthDog]

LOL, curing time for that, maybe 1-3C?

tinting?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Just an FYI - I did finally get around to testing Master Gel Maker.... I wouldnt say its trash but my temps ran a lot hotter than the Noctua NT-H1 i had on previously. I used MGM on my CPU & GPU - GPU temps didnt change an awful lot.

On both applications the spread and coverage was pretty good. but the CPU went up 5-8'c. This is my personal experience however. MGM is best avoided in place of NT-H1 or MX-4 which will perform better in spades.

Or just get the kryonaut

 

[v12dock]

I used PK-3 for the longest time. I recently switched to Graphite Thermal Pads and have never looked back.

 

[advanced3]

If your going liquid metal, a messy but good way to apply it to shield it from components you don't want it touching is actually... cheap thermal paste, like mx-4 or mx-2. Coat whatever you don't want it touching with the a thin layer and the thermal paste seems to avoid it and actually have a phobia of conventional thermal pastes. Don't ask me why, just a trick I picked up. Works great on the electrically sensitive "trench/moat" around NVIDIA GPU dies.

I use clear nail polish.

 

[StrayKAT]

Yep, welcome to the only real thermal solution worth paying extra for... If done right, liquid metal is awesome material unlike anything else, and provides way more than the 1-2C difference common in thermal pastes. And yeah, you did right shielding the components around the GPU die. Doesn't take much but makes it A LOT safer.

I'd be scared to use it regularly.. but I did use it for delidding.

I actually bought a Carbonaut pad for the IHS over Kryonaut though. It's not as good, but it is convenient and consistent.

 

[R-T-B]

I'd be scared to use it regularly.. but I did use it for delidding.

I mean, if you don't shield it well, it will kill things. I've done it. It's certainly not a recomended compound but it does what it says if you are brave, heh.

 

[freeagent]

Numbers man. It's all about the numbers.

Cooler Master MasterGel Maker 11 W/mk
Kryonaut 12.5 W/mk
Thermalright TF6 12.5 W/mk
Thermalright TF8 13.8 W/mk
Thermalright TFX 14.3 W/mk
Thermalright also has liquid metal called Silver King at 79 W/mk

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A little something for everyone

 

[delshay]

I'd be scared to use it regularly.. but I did use it for delidding.

I actually bought a Carbonaut pad for the IHS over Kryonaut though. It's not as good, but it is convenient and consistent.

As far as I see it, thermal pads are excellent for VRM/memory cooling but not so good for IHS/direct die contact when compared to normal paste. If you have a spare device you don't care about, I would try the Carbonaut Pad on that as a experiment, but you have to be selective on the type of VRMs you place the pads on, as I do believe they are conductive, so it will not work on some MOSFETS. It will work best where the coldplate uses bolts or screw-down as mounting pressure is also important.

 

[StrayKAT]

As far as I see it, thermal pads are excellent for VRM/memory cooling but not so good for IHS/direct die contact when compared to normal paste. If you have a spare device you don't care about, I would try the Carbonaut Pad on that as a experiment, but you have to be selective on the type of VRMs you place the pads on, as I do believe they are conductive, so it will not work on some MOSFETS. It will work best where the coldplate uses bolts or screw-down as mounting pressure is also important.

It's only a few degrees loss afaik. I've already delidded anyways, so I'm not as desperate for more as I would be otherwise. But I get what you're saying.

 

[Tromick]

Well i was looking for who used Noctua NT-H1... Finally... I am looking for long lasting thermal paste. In first months Noctua reacts so well to the heat. Fast cooling, on heat stable low degrees ratios...
But after 5-6 months laptop starts to heating. I mean clicking to Chrome. 55C to 68C... It doesn't work anymore. When i open my laptop i am seeing that thermal paste no where like it is flied away. It is too liquid and don't have longevity. Is it Kryonaut good at this point? Fast cooling, stable low degrees, like first day performance after 5-6 months. etc. etc.

By the way this experience from my 5739G. I am really curious about my Dell 7567 thermal paste. 7 months passed and it still works at same degrees. I wish to know which thermal paste used on it. Some computer brand's stock thermal paste amazingly good. I feel so ashamed that when i cleaned my stock 9 years old thermal paste and reapply my Noctua to it. That 9 years old thermal paste even much much better than Noctua. Think about it. 9 years old and works crazy.

Funny lol... I was reading this thread like i read it first time. When i saw my message, i was like "Woah!?"

Anyway i updated this cuz people should know this... I wanted to upgrade my stock thermal paste of Dell 7567 with Noctua NT-H1. I am dissappointed very much... 1,5~2 years old stock thermal paste was way better than Noctua NT-H1. Laptop started to work noisy at low fan speed on idle or surfing on web. I mean, i never ever get fan sound with 200 tabs, many different programs at background but NT-H1? Big yes! I ordered Mastergel Maker Nano 2g. on Aliexpress right away. It came to Turkey in 2 weeks. Applied with the stick that comes in package and result is amazing! It is same as stock Dell 7567 thermal grease. Finally, i have found really good (not metal) thermal grease.

By the way, in 2018, i have talked with someone who works at Asus authorized service. He told that he applies MX-2 to some GPU or applies MX-4 to some CPU and GPU's. It changes case to case. Anyway i am happy with this Mastergel Maker Nano thing. I can't find it on Turkey and the one came from Aliexpress is 2018 production. I hope they will produce it on next years...

stabilitytest.png is stock thermal grease which i did the test when house was very cold and it was winter. (2018)
The other ones are done in this summer.

 

[EarthDog]

Likely a bad application or mount. Its no worse than any stock paste. Your test condition changed too...winter v summer so I assume ambient are warmer as well.

Glad the new paste works though.

 

[Tromick]

Likely a bad application or mount. Its no worse than any stock paste. Your test condition changed too...winter v summer so I assume ambient are warmer as well.

Glad the new paste works though.

Nope, Noctua NT-H1 drive me crazy since 2015... This is why i searched new grease for over years. It wasn't "Okay." to me. Now it's "Okay!" When i am web browsing with 200 tabs or leaving computer with these tabs (idle), it is 50-55C like the stock one which the stock one always game same degrees. Doesn't matter is it winter or summer. This one is same also. Right now it is 50-52C and at winter, it will be 50-52C as well. Thank you again. Never ever buy Noctua NT-H1, just buy MX-4 or if you have money, buy Mastergel Maker Nano.

 

[dirtyferret]

Nope, Noctua NT-H1 drive me crazy since 2015... This is why i searched new grease for over years. It wasn't "Okay." to me. Now it's "Okay!" When i am web browsing with 200 tabs or leaving computer with these tabs (idle), it is 50-55C like the stock one which the stock one always game same degrees. Doesn't matter is it winter or summer. This one is same also. Right now it is 50-52C and at winter, it will be 50-52C as well. Thank you again. Never ever buy Noctua NT-H1, just buy MX-4 or if you have money, buy Mastergel Maker Nano.

So your one experience (most likely an installation issue) over rides all the different web sites that have reviewed NT-H1? I've used various paste from Noctua, Antec, IC diamond, cooler master, Artic, and more and never really saw one stand out that much more then the others. In fact I would say NT-H1 is one of the better thermal pastes out there.

 

[freeagent]

I liked AS5 better than NTH1.. I’m probably one of the few..

 

[Tromick]

So your one experience (most likely an installation issue)

Excuse me but how can it could be one experience? Even i am telling you "driving me crazy since 2015" ? You drove me crazy off more than NT-H1 when you said installation issue even you don't know about my experience history. You want to defend your favorite product, alright but you sound like you are paid worker from Noctua NT-H1 factory.

I have used this a lot of different computers/laptops. Even once i changed stock 6 years old Intel Q8300 thermal grease which it resulted same story. Higher idle temperatures. On laptops, after a while, it doesn't even exists. It doesn't stay on CPU, it just goes away. I am glad that Noctua NT-H1 works great for you but in Turkey, you can see a lot of same complaints about this damn sh*t.

 

[dirtyferret]

Excuse me but how can it could be one experience? Even i am telling you "driving me crazy since 2015" ? You drove me crazy off more than NT-H1 when you said installation issue even you don't know about my experience history. You want to defend your favorite product, alright but you sound like you are paid worker from Noctua NT-H1 factory.

I have used this a lot of different computers/laptops. Even once i changed stock 6 years old Intel Q8300 thermal grease which it resulted same story. Higher idle temperatures. On laptops, after a while, it doesn't even exists. It doesn't stay on CPU, it just goes away. I am glad that Noctua NT-H1 works great for you but in Turkey, you can see a lot of same complaints about this damn sh*t.

I don't have a favorite product, hence why I use so many and your posts give me all the answers I need to know about your "experience history"

 

[EarthDog]

Never ever buy Noctua NT-H1, just buy MX-4 or if you have money, buy Mastergel Maker Nano.

lol. I suppose its possible you got a bad batch? Otherwise, empirically tested reviews show it to be a quality paste. Respectfully, I absolutely believe a quality review is more representative of a product than an overwhelming majority of random forum users results. Especially those who run 200 tabs in browsers...

Guru3D Thermal Paste Roundup 2019

Thermal paste is an often-overlooked part of most computer setups. You can simply use the pre-applied stuff, or the thermal paste that comes with your motherboard, and still get reasonable processor t... AIO cooling for i9 9900K@5.0 GHz 1.35V

www.guru3d.com

 

[Tromick]

quality review is more representative of a product than an overwhelming majority of random forum users results

Interesting opinion. Have it your way!

 

[EarthDog]

Interesting opinion. Have it your way!

Most would call that closer to a fact than an opinion. Proper reviews eliminate variables that otherwise throw off tests. The tests are repeatable...empirical.

As you can see from the link I provided, the noctua paste youre talking about is a middle of the road product and about 1C behind mx-4 and a couple of C behind similar CM products. Your warning not to buy it just doesnt hold any water when properly tested. Certainly, the paste you used is better...no getting around that. But nht works well as you can see by other testing.

Here's another with your nano in it showing what im saying as well. About 1C difference.

Thermal Paste Round-up: CPU Water Cooling

We start with closed-loop liquid cooling, since this is the most popular type of water cooling used by enthusiasts. Relatively high performance and low complexity are particularly suited to less experienced builders.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Tromick]

Most would call that closer to a fact than an opinion. Proper reviews eliminate variables that otherwise throw off tests. The tests are repeatable...empirical.

As you can see from the link I provided, the noctua paste youre talking about is a middle of the road product and about 1C behind mx-4 and a couple of C behind similar CM products. Your warning not to buy it just doesnt hold any water when properly tested. Certainly, the paste you used is better...no getting around that. But nht works well as you can see by other testing.

Here's another with your nano in it showing what im saying as well. About 1C difference.

Thermal Paste Round-up: CPU Water Cooling

We start with closed-loop liquid cooling, since this is the most popular type of water cooling used by enthusiasts. Relatively high performance and low complexity are particularly suited to less experienced builders.

www.tomshardware.com

Here is people who are complaining same thing like me (except idle temperatures) :

NOCTUA NT-H1 termal macun Edit: Hiç de iyi değil | DonanımHaber Forum » Sayfa 2

Slm arkadaşlar inventus daha önceden aldığım NOCTUA NT-H1 termal macunu kullanmıştım bugün tekrardan aynı termall macunu temizleyip süreyim dedim, yak - Sayfa 2

forum.donanimhaber.com

Noctua NT-H1 Gümüş Termal Macun | DonanımHaber Forum

Noctua NT-H1 Gümüş Termal Macun bu termal macunu alıp kullanan ve istanbulda ikamet eden bir arkadaş varsa bir tanesi 15 kullanımlık diyor. bana 2 kul

forum.donanimhaber.com

Termal Macun Azami Kullanım Süresi

Merhabalar, bundan 4-5 sene önce Noctua Nt-h1 model termal macun almıştım ve 6 ayda bir olarak yenileme işlemi yapıyordum. Son zamanlarda termal macunu yenilememe rağmen işlemcinin sıcaklığını düşüremediğimi fark ettim. Bugün termal macunun kutusunda 2 yıl bekleme süresi yazdığını gördüm ancak...

www.technopat.net

I %100 know you won't read them all but just for showing that i am not alone. I never ever saw these things for Mastergel Maker or MX-4 on my country. Only first squeeze was great. After that, before i squeeze, always water came before grease. Results are at the top which i already mention there a couple of times.

I don't know that where are you from but i never ever made empty argue to proof my "pain" like this on worldwide. I am telling my story, saying other's stories. My and other people's pains are real as these fancy tests. Then what is this arguing? The URL's that you are sending me, i know all of them. These 200 tabs aren't empty things like this argue. If i were happy about my thermal grease, i or other people wouldn't write things about Noctua NT-H1 then... I wasted a lot of time with writing these again and again... Have a nice day and be safe.

 

[EarthDog]

I can google complaints about anything too. I believe you and your results. I also already conceded you may have had a bad batch. I took exception to your statement not to buy NH1 as when it works, which most assume is 99% of the time just like other products, it is fine and I supported that reasoning.

I'm sorry your experience wasn't a good one. Maybe you should have reached out to the company 5 years ago when you first started seeing water come out? Surely they would have replaced it for you. Instead, you ground it out with shitty results and here you are.

Bad tubes happen...but in no way does this reflect on the other 99 tubes (overwhelming majority is the point) that work properly. They also updated the product... perhaps to resolve that issue(?). I hope that clarifies my point.