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Have Some Facebook With Your VR: Facebook and Oculus Integration to Become Mandatory

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Boy that didn't age well.
I disagree... It lasted longer than his job at Oculus after they bought it. I really don't see what the big deal is over linking it to your FB account. I mean I do nothing with my FB account (my wife created for me years ago..)... I don't buy games on the oculus store when they are on Steam. I've only bought the Darth Vader eps. I still have the 15 dollar store credit from when their store went down for a few days, years ago... lol Guess what when their store was down I could still log into SteamVR and play games.

I have to say I'm pretty excited about OC7. There have been leaks of a new Quest II.
 
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i understand Facebook owns oculous, but facebook is for housewives who want to flirt with ex boyfriends , & people who like posting pictures of their dogs, or people selling a 12 year old air conditioner.....Facebook is to gaming, like bandaids are to accounting.
 
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Ill reserve judgment until I try my oculus with it but i don't have high hopes for this ,would steam vr support work with no other software?.
 
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Ill reserve judgment until I try my oculus with it but i don't have high hopes for this ,would steam vr support work with no other software?.
@Mindweaver and someone else said yes. It’ll work with Steam VR without a Facebook account.
 

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Just use Steam VR store only, simple as that

This is what i do, and have no problems so i dont see the drama

make a fake/empty FB account if you care that much, its not like the cameras these headsets use have any detail worth spying on you with (use the passthrough mode and you'll see a blurry grainy black and white mess)
 
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TBH, Viveport is not any better (HTC proprietary platform, where they have shittier contents than Oculus store and worse social network integration, and on top of all that buggy AF)

So I never used Viveport minus the first 2 months of owning the Vive to grab my free bundled games.

SteamVR is the way to go. Until Epic Store has a VR version though.
 
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Exactly!!!

My first VR HMD was the Oculus Rift and now I have the Oculus Quest. I went with Oculus options because they were cheaper. However, I didn't want to be locked in to a specific manufacturer so while there where Oculus exclusive games that I was interested in (Lone Echo, Stormland and so on) I abstained from buying them. Simply put, I'm not buying anything from the Oculus store in part due to trust issue but I also don't know that my next VR HMD will be from Oculus.

A side note,...

People who have used / bought a VR HMD know or eventually come to understand that these things are like typical PC peripherals. Its not one and done, you'll eventually upgrade to a new VR HMD. Therefore there is no reason to use something like this Facebook / Oculus fiasco as an excuse to opt out of VR,....although a lot of people are oddly enough just looking for excuses.

No excuse?

This is a company that manages to follow you regardless of whether you are logged in, regardless of whether you should or shouldn't have your privacy at any given time. Mark doesn't give a damn about you, but does care about your data. Your burner account is just as valuable as any other to him. Now you're sharing tons more data with it, because the headset is full of sensors and other data. They can connect the dots, don't you worry. Almost every service can link accounts to users based on something as simple as dynamic IP adresses already. Wake up. These data models are far bigger than the account itself.

Forgot Cambridge Analytics already? It didn't matter if you had a burner account or not. It doesn't even matter if you actually are on FB. But because so many fools ARE, they can still connect the dots and data mine on you regardless. All that is required is one facebook member to share some piece of info.

But aside from that. I don't see myself logging into Razer Synapse for peripheral use, and neither do I see myself doing so for something stupid like an HMD. The question that needs to be asked is why they demand it, and why it is not optional. That alone should speak volumes and be a big red flag. Matter of principle too. 'Oh, I can still go through SteamVR Store'... as if that is somehow not a fat warning sign and likely to get a mandatory FB login regardless. Not today... tomorrow. When you've invested in the HMDs just a bit more.

Burner accounts are a 1999 Hotmail approach. Wake up, the world is smarter than you by now, they know the trick.

I disagree... It lasted longer than his job at Oculus after they bought it. I really don't see what the big deal is over linking it to your FB account. I mean I do nothing with my FB account (my wife created for me years ago..)... I don't buy games on the oculus store when they are on Steam. I've only bought the Darth Vader eps. I still have the 15 dollar store credit from when their store went down for a few days, years ago... lol Guess what when their store was down I could still log into SteamVR and play games.

I have to say I'm pretty excited about OC7. There have been leaks of a new Quest II.

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. Even just the fact that data ownership isn't in your own hands but, due to the login and connected terms, automatically belongs to FB, should be enough to scare you away. Burner account? Its irrelevant. You're steadily filling it up with your data - and its actual, true, valuable data. Not nonsense posts, but actual sensor data. You're not getting paid for that either.
 
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Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. Even just the fact that data ownership isn't in your own hands but, due to the login and connected terms, automatically belongs to FB, should be enough to scare you away. Burner account? Its irrelevant. You're steadily filling it up with your data - and its actual, true, valuable data. Not nonsense posts, but actual sensor data. You're not getting paid for that either.

Well, I want to see this tech evolve quickly and if they need to know my position in space to do so I could care less. Again once they stop supporting Oculus accounts then just use steam. I mean I don't see the difference in them or Steam. If you have a cell phone then you are already being tracked. If you think smartphones have only evolved due to hardware sales then you need to in your words wake up...

The idea behind the burner account is that it's not connected to your friends and family which I don't care about. I want to be able to see other people using the tech that I've purchased or quickly find people to play VR.
 
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The idea behind the burner account is that it's not connected to your friends and family which I don't care about. I want to be able to see other people using the tech that I've purchased or quickly find people to play VR.

Yes, and that was the point I was trying to make to you. You're living an illusion if you think that burner account isn't linked to family and friends. They link it, and you provide them with lots of data to do so. Regardless of whether you call yourself AnonymousBloke283501 or not.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The tech won't evolve more quickly or slowly if customers make a stand for basic rights, you know. What does happen, is that it evolves in the wrong direction if you allow them to get away with it. You can look back at recent history for proof on how social media are rampaging across the media landscape. To each his own, but supporting that, I don't see how its a good thing.
 

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Yes, and that was the point I was trying to make to you. You're living an illusion if you think that burner account isn't linked to family and friends. They link it, and you provide them with lots of data to do so. Regardless of whether you call yourself AnonymousBloke283501 or not.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The tech won't evolve more quickly or slowly if customers make a stand for basic rights, you know. What does happen, is that it evolves in the wrong direction if you allow them to get away with it. You can look back at recent history for proof on how social media are rampaging across the media landscape. To each his own, but supporting that, I don't see how its a good thing.
Again I said to use a burner account if you don't want people to see you online.. Not for FB not to see you online. I think we are on the same page on that, I'm just clarifying about the Burner account. But for mean I don't care about it. I'm not that exciting and yes ads and things push tech from the funds being made by them. That's all I really have to say about this, I can accept you don't like it.
 
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Again I said to use a burner account if you don't want people to see you online.. Not for FB not to see you online. I think we are on the same page on that, I'm just clarifying about the Burner account. But for mean I don't care about it. I'm not that exciting and yes ads and things push tech from the funds being made by them. That's all I really have to say about this, I can accept you don't like it.

Burner accounts are easier said than done. They require a phone number for verification now when you try to establish an account, and they aggressively delete fake accounts.

I am not going to give them any more information than possible. I had a fake account for a couple months and deleted it afterwards. That's all they got from me besides my Oculus account which only has payment info on it.

Suffice to say, I'm never buying another Oculus product again. Fortunately there are just as good devices around now with just around the same price, if not marginally more (aforementioned HP Reverb G2).
 
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I thought you had to give FB your phone number to have an account, or am I wrong?
(Or is that just Google)
 

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I thought you had to give FB your phone number to have an account, or am I wrong?
(Or is that just Google)
I know Messenger keeps bugging me for mine...
 

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There are people in the u.s.a who are not allowed on Facebook legally, and by Facebook's policy.

Facebook integration into everything needs to stop for that reason.....

Yet there's is nothing stopping them from purchasing said items.
That's actually not a bad point.
And how about countries where facebook doesn't operate or isn't allowed? I mean this is a whole planet not just the US.
So it might be a case of them shooting themselves in the foot multiple ways.
 

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messenger asks for your number in case your account is hacked for 2 factor authentication.

That's hardly unique.
 

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If I wouldn't have a FB account, I'd just make something useless to use my Rift. Personally I wouldn't see this as a problem.
 
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Yes, and that was the point I was trying to make to you. You're living an illusion if you think that burner account isn't linked to family and friends. They link it, and you provide them with lots of data to do so. Regardless of whether you call yourself AnonymousBloke283501 or not.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The tech won't evolve more quickly or slowly if customers make a stand for basic rights, you know. What does happen, is that it evolves in the wrong direction if you allow them to get away with it. You can look back at recent history for proof on how social media are rampaging across the media landscape. To each his own, but supporting that, I don't see how its a good thing.
All good points, this post and your previous one too. I was thinking of a burner account as one that does not have any one linked (such as a friends list) and is provided with the bare minimum personal info required in order to have a functional account. That is what we are already doing with Steam as well, no? They will get information on what I play, how long, when my headset is/isnt plugged in, etc. Steam does all of that now as well. We also give Steam our personal info for "security" reasons (which also includes tracking the physical location of where we log in from), billing, have friends linked on our account, etc. With a fake account I see it more of an annoyance that shouldn't be required than I do a personal attack, because I have the option to not use their product. But this particular discussion can go waaaay beyond a video game account tracking you. My first thought was (as Mindreaver also mentioned), do you carry a cell phone? Or even worse, a smart phone? If yes, the privacy you are voluntarily surrendering every minute that it's powered on is many, many times that of what Steam or a fake FB account is infringing on. The difference being that FB is a hated company by many so speaking out against or boycotting them is easy. Where as, very few people are willing to deal with the inconvenience and disruption that ditching their cell phones would cause to take an equally firm stance on privacy. I was looking at the use of a burner account in the event that my Oculus would be rendered unusable (sounds like 2023 for me), until an alternative would be available. Coincidentally I just pre-ordered my Reverb G2 last month, so a solution to the FB account linking appears to be coming sooner than that in my case.
 
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