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Nah. That would be a solid card, but not overkill IMHO. Actually, a 2GB GTX560ti would be a better card as it has more VRAM.


Very nice!


X48 actually, but the P45 was solid when the board it went to was well designed & built.
Hm, on the other hand I COULD put a HD 4890 Crossfire setup... hmm... :D

IMO it really depends on which era of games you intended to play with your XP rig. A bit of overkill is in order since back then we don't use 1080p monitor, unless you have proper period correct monitor to couple with them :)
It must run Crysis at medium 60fps :) that 4890 CF would be the coolest thing ever..
 
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It must run Crysis at medium 60fps :) that 4890 CF would be the coolest thing ever..
I think CF 4890 could achieve that. HD 6970 could do 30fps very high 1080p. Crysis scales well when dialling down detail setting, as it was the last Cryengine thats build purely for PC.
 
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It would seem this Q9400 was one of the better bins. The core voltage is nudged up to 1.3875 from stock 1.2875. No problems with 3.553 GHz.
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Weren't some of those Viewsonic LCDs rebranded IBM screens? I found a few models IBM did that were sold under a few different brands, including iiyama and Viewsonic.
Not sure, never knew that. If they were, I would have been ok with it as IBM screens were very good in the late 2000's, IIRC.

The core voltage is nudged up to 1.3875 from stock 1.2875.
Wouldn't go much higher than that. 1.4v would be the upper limit I would try, but that is just one perspective.
 
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I need a better board... this Asrock KT400A shit just isn't good. :(

Trying now with AXP2700+ at 2.23GHz, though the final build will be with Athlon 1000 @ 1400 :)


...if I get a hella good mobo, that is going to be at least at 1.5GHz, that AXIA OC's like mad.. :rolleyes:

Why the Athlon? some may ask. Just for the nostalgia. My first gaming PC had an Athlon 1000 @ 1404MHz :)
 
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Why the Athlon? some may ask. Just for the nostalgia. My first gaming PC had an Athlon 1000 @ 1404MHz :)
Athlon Thunderbird? I missed out on that CPU, however I did have the Palomino, and the one before that got panned for running hot/no OC potential, that was missing the extra metal layer on the silicon die. Or was that Palomino?
 

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Athlon Thunderbird? I missed out on that CPU, however I did have the Palomino, and the one before that got panned that was missing the extra metal layer on the silicon die. Or was that Palomino?
Yup, Thunderbird :)
 
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I only overclocked the Q9300 for a few hours for entertainment purposes. Twelve years ago, it was plenty quick enough at its 2.5 GHz stock speed. My father certainly didn't need it to run any faster than stock when I built a new system for myself and gave the Core2Quad Q9300 system to him. The i5-3570K that he has now is noticeably quicker for his office tasks, but a big part of that is that it boots from SSD.
 
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The i5-3570K that he has now is noticeably quicker for his office tasks, but a big part of that is that it boots from SSD.
Maybe that’s why the 9400 doesn’t feel that slow. Booting the board from a older Intel 520 series 120GB SSD.
 

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Maybe that’s why the 9400 doesn’t feel that slow. Booting the board from a older Intel 520 series 120GB SSD.
SSD is just a magical thing. Even older dualcores get a hella huge boost just by having a SSD :)
 
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SSD is just a magical thing. Even older dualcores get a hella huge boost just by having a SSD :)
The Intel SSD is one of those with a Sandforce controller but with Intel customized firmware.

The only time Intel sourced the SandForce controller?
 

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The Intel SSD is one of those with a Sandforce controller but with Intel customized firmware.
My laptop has a DRAM-less Gigabyte branded one and that's already a thing :)

And about the Athlon... ofc it's an AXIA core ;)

 

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@Chloe Price or anyone else who wants to build a retro system based on Win9x or Win2k/XP,
Just an FYI, all SSD's made within the last 5 years have TRIM/Garbage collection functionality built into the drive controller, so you don't need to worry about performance degradation on OSes that have no TRIM support. Just get a modern SSD(anything with 3D NAND) and you're good to go.
(I think this might have been said already, but it's worth repeating here.)
 
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@Chloe Price or anyone else who want to build a retro system based on Win9x or Win2k/XP,
Just an FYI, all SSD's made within the last 5 years have TRIM/Garbage collection functionality built into the drive controller, so you don't need to worry about performance degradation on OSes that have no TRIM support. Just get a modern SSD(anything with 3D NAND) and you're good to go.
Hmm, I'd love to put 2000... or maybe dualboot? :)
 

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Crap, I have been looking for a copy with key of Win2K for a long time. Haven't came across a single one yet that I can grab. :(
 
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Crap, I have been looking for a copy with key of Win2K for a long time. Haven't came across a single one yet that I can grab. :(
 

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Hi guys, looking to sell on some of my old PC parts, but it's something I've lost touch with over the years so I'm a bit out of sync with prices etc. I understand there's been a bit of a resurgence in building retro PCs, so there might be more value than I first thought...!

The main components I wondered about a rough value on were...
Pentium 4 3.4ghz
Motherboard gigabyte ga-8i848pm
ATI sapphire HD3850 512mb AGP slot

I'm just curious more than anything - didn't realise there was an interest in it sadly I've decided to leave my days of Baldur's Gate and Dungeon Keeper behind me, but certainly some very fond memories
 
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Hi guys, looking to sell on some of my old PC parts, but it's something I've lost touch with over the years so I'm a bit out of sync with prices etc. I understand there's been a bit of a resurgence in building retro PCs, so there might be more value than I first thought...!

The main components I wondered about a rough value on were...
Pentium 4 3.4ghz
Motherboard gigabyte ga-8i848pm
ATI sapphire HD3850 512mb AGP slot

I'm just curious more than anything - didn't realise there was an interest in it sadly I've decided to leave my days of Baldur's Gate and Dungeon Keeper behind me, but certainly some very fond memories

IMO, you'll have a hard time getting a decent amount of money from that stuff...I mean...I bought my entire Pentium 3 retro PC, with matching mouse and keyboard, for $13 CAD, from a PC recycler / refurbishing center. The P4 is maybe worth $5...the board, maybe $20-25, the GPU, maybe $10-$15. You might be able to get more if you put them on Ebay and aren't in a rush to sell...or they could never sell. Honestly, it's almost hard to give away hardware of that age, as it's not really "retro" to most people, but not new enough to make a modern PC...and super common.
 

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and super common.

The 3850 AGP might be worth something.
I know @Chloe Price scored a good deal on one lately but they can sometimes sell upwards of a hundred or so. Possibly more if you have a retail box and what not to go along with it.
 

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The 3850 AGP might be worth something.
I know @Chloe Price scored a good deal on one lately but they can sometimes sell upwards of a hundred or so. Possibly more if you have a retail box and what not to go along with it.
Yeah, those are kinda rare and sought after as it's the fastest AGP card (3870 AGP prototypes don't count) and like you said, those are usually about 80-100EUR/USD and even upwards on ebay..
 

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Best AGP i could find when i wanted one for a retro build
was Sapphire HD 3650 AGP ( with retail box and drivers Disk ).
 
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