NVIDIA Announces GeForce Ampere RTX 3000 Series Graphics Cards: Over 10000 CUDA Cores

[medi01]

Mm, did number of transistors per CU go down?

Digital Foundry benchmarks 3080 = 65-90% faster than 2080... AWESOME!!!

So far so good for the "two times faster" promise, lol.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Jup, RTX 3080 will straight up murdering 2080 Ti, 40-50% faster than 2080 Ti and 80% faster than RTX 2080 just in rasterization

Edited: @Fluffmeister just posted the DigitalFoundry link like 5s faster than I did

Yeah just beat ya too it! Sorry fella! But yeah, the 3080 smacks the 2080 pretty hard.

 

[Nkd]

Jup, RTX 3080 will straight up murdering 2080 Ti, 40-50% faster than 2080 Ti and 80% faster than RTX 2080 just in rasterization

Edited: @Fluffmeister just posted the DigitalFoundry link like 5s faster than I did

Well looks like Navi is going to be just competing with 3080 from rasterization standpoint looking at specs. I don’t see them tryin got compete with 3090 because math doesn’t add up unless Ofcourse they have more cores all of sudden then rumored. Plus not sure if amd really wants to compete at 1000+. Just not something they shoot for.

 

[Vayra86]

Gets juicy from about 6 minutes in, compares a cranked 2080 to a 3080.

Go to 6.16 to be precise and well.... gee.

I think its always best to take a worst case, much salt scenario on these comparisons because you're not usually looking at the toughest scenes games will throw at you.

Realistically I think what 3080 will give you, is +75% over a 1080ti / 2070S. Because let's face it, 2080 wasn't much of its own tier.

Which is STILL pretty damn decent at 700. I have to say. Its also good to see that the x80 pulls up the absolute performance already. That's a lot better than Turing's 2080ti doing it.

 

[PowerPC]

Gets juicy from about 6 minutes in, compares a cranked 2080 to a 3080.

Go to 6.16 to be precise and well.... gee.

So Doom Eternal performance of 3080 vs 2080 is increased by a whooping 81% without RTX because that game doesn't even support RTX afaik.

And my prediction a couple of weeks ago was around 60%, which was actually made fun of on this forum hahaha. Even 60% would still have been a lot actually and much more than at least two of the last increases of generations.

 

[randompeep]

Out there wishing people would calm their asses down on VRAM battle. Like the heck you do with dozens and dozens?! Isn't this the hardware you'd be supposed to game the next 3-5 years like you do with a next-gen console, huh ? How many of y'all are gonna do it in 4k 120 Hz or 8k (just to call it out) ?
And for the VRAM 'horny' peeps, go hunt the used market! Big deals are already on globally

 

[Zubasa]

So far so good for the "two times faster" promise, lol.

Ampere got more than double the CUDA cores, but the rest of the card (ROPs / Bandwidth etc) didn't get this kind of increase.
So the performance checks out in the end.

I think its always best to take a worst case, much salt scenario on these comparisons because you're not usually looking at the toughest scenes games will throw at you.

Realistically I think what 3080 will give you, is +75% over a 1080ti / 2070S. Because let's face it, 2080 wasn't much of its own tier.

Which is STILL pretty damn decent at 700. I have to say. Its also good to see that the x80 pulls up the absolute performance already. That's a lot better than Turing's 2080ti doing it.

Yeah 70-ish% increase is like Maxwell vs Pascal which is very nice, finally we get a "real" generational increase.

 

[Chrispy_]

So
kopite7kimi
was right about pricing.

According to him/her Big Navi soundly beats 3070 (rendering 3070Ti useless).
This means we have:

3070 << Big Navi < 3080

It also explains the unexpectedly conservative pricing.

big navi is still a ways off though, right?

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Dont forget the real benchmark is not from Nvidia slide.

 

[chodaboy19]

Wow the performance increase is truly brutal across the board!

After some more driver and game optimization, the performance will just keep going up!

 

[Chomiq]

That's one of the points, though. Consoles are obsolete even before launch.

100 mil + of PS4 sold says otherwise.

No Ti branding this time around supposedly. I think with the super models they'll double the VRAM on higher SKUs.


3080S 20GB / 3070S 16GB model what you should keep an eye out if they are forced by AMD.

They have a big price gap between 3080 and 3090. They can hold out until flagship RDNA2 and then drop 3080 Ti to fit this scenario.

 

[Vayra86]

Well looks like Navi is going to be just competing with 3080 from rasterization standpoint looking at specs. I don’t see them tryin got compete with 3090 because math doesn’t add up unless Ofcourse they have more cores all of sudden then rumored. Plus not sure if amd really wants to compete at 1000+. Just not something they shoot for.

I think Navi is going to struggle catching this 3080 to be honest. AMD has yet to surpass 2070S performance convincingly, and now they're making an 80% jump ahead? Not likely, unless they make something absolutely gargantuan. But let's not dive into the next pond of speculation... my heart...

By the by, do we have TDPs for these Ampere releases already? The real numbers?

 

[HD64G]

The " twice as fast" or 3070 is faster than 2080Ti , is it the general performance ? or RT performance only ? or we don't know yet ...

That increase in performance is clearly the FPS with RTX ON.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Out there wishing people would calm their asses down on VRAM battle. Like the heck you do with dozens and dozens?! Isn't this the hardware you'd be supposed to game the next 3-5 years like you do with a next-gen console, huh ? How many of y'all are gonna do it in 4k 120 Hz or 8k (just to call it out) ?
And for the VRAM 'horny' peeps, go hunt the used market! Big deals are already on globally

Just look at Microsoft FS 2020. 2080TI manages only 31FPS (with deeps to 21) over NY City at 4K/ULTRA and wants to use 12.7GB of VRAM. 3080 will hopefully get us to 55 fps (with deeps to 40ies). Having 16GB would probably smoothen these fps deeps further. Needless to say 3080 is still a godsent for flight simmers

 

[sutyi]

100 mil + of PS4 sold says otherwise.

They have a big price gap between 3080 and 3090. They can hold out until flagship RDNA2 and then drop 3080 Ti to fit this scenario.

Most leaky info points to AIB partners pushing towards a more transparent naming scheme for the product stack. Super had a better a ring to it.

I'm not doubting they'll release a something between the 3080 and the 3090 down the line, but 80% it will not be called a 3080Ti.
It will probably be called a 3080 Super and it will have 20GB memory and a 350W TGP. They'll release it around 899-999 when they have enough cut down cores.

 

[efikkan]

According to him/her Big Navi soundly beats 3070 (rendering 3070Ti useless).
This means we have:
3070 << Big Navi < 3080
It also explains the unexpectedly conservative pricing.

That's a pretty bold statement when nobody have compared them in real workloads yet.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Big Navi™ will push the prices a bit down further.

 

[Icon Charlie]

That increase in performance is clearly the FPS with RTX ON.

I agree.

I want to see standard testing from several different sites on a large amount of games and programs is when judgement should be placed.

Starting at 1080p. and go up from there. I want to see real performance gains without RTX on.

 

[PowerPC]

With the VRAM discussion, you also have to mention that the 30x0 cards all have 60% faster VRAM than the previous generation (it makes the process of freeing up and writing to Memory much faster) and therefore will probably lead to a much smaller VRAM bottleneck than Turing had if you even encounter this as a problem, which most games so far don't even on 4K. 8-10 GB is still pretty good. But they'll probably release Ti variants of all these cards with increased VRAM, but also a much higher prices.

 

[Chomiq]

Most leaky info points to AIB partners pushing towards a more transparent naming scheme for the product stack. Super had a better a ring to it.

I'm not doubting they'll release a something between the 3080 and the 3090 down the line, but 80% it will not be called a 3080Ti.
It will probably be called a 3080 Super and it will have 20GB memory and a 350W TGP. They'll release it around 899-999 when they have enough cut down cores.

Thing is, Super is perfectly fine if you're doing a refresh. Ti is helpful if you need something quick to one up the competition. They can do Super refresh in 12 months, but Ti would be a direct response if RDNA2 actually managed to match 3080 in non-RT performance.

 

[Zubasa]

Wow the performance increase is truly brutal across the board!

After some more driver and game optimization, the performance will just keep going up!

You might want to tone down the excitement a bit, generally nVidia GPUs don't tend to gain a lot of performance unless there is some glaring bug in the driver.
nVidia is generally pretty good at getting most of the performance out of their cards from the get go.
For example, the relative performance between Pascal and Turing more or less stayed the same in most cases.

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[medi01]

That's a pretty bold statement when nobody have compared them in real workloads yet.

How NV/AMD "know" what is being cooked in the other kitchen always was a mystery to me (and I wondered how much of it could be blocked on driver level).

Nevertheless, 3080 and below pricing is... not usual, is it?

 

[Metroid]

3080 because is the best cost benefit price/performance gpu, I want more gddr memory, 10gb is not enough, I like Nvidia cooling design however I will have to wait for reviews and then decide which 3080 to buy, 3080 nvidia reference cards will only come with 10gb, so need to wait and see which company will pack more gddr and have the best cooling solution.

3070 = $499
3080 = $699
3090 = $1499

3090 is too expensive for the performance it will give, I mean is better to buy 2 x 3080 and put on sli, I dont think the 3090 will be even 50% faster than the 3080.

Also nvidia made wonders, I mean 2080 is 12nm and 3080 is 8nm, in that sense we should expect only 50% faster and yet is a lot more than that. If we take 1080 which is a 14nm and compare x 3080 8nm which is not even a 7nm, the performance will be much more than 100% and for that I'm happy.

 

[Zubasa]

How NV/AMD "know" what is being cooked in the other kitchen always was a mystery to me (and I wondered how much of it could be blocked on driver level).

Nevertheless, 3080 and below pricing is... not usual, is it?

Depends on how you think of it, Turing's pricing was "unusual" in the bad way.
TBH, I was kind of expecting nVidia to raise the price on those as well.

 

[medi01]

That increase in performance is clearly the FPS with RTX ON.

On one hand there is that 2+ times CU cores, on other, lower clocks and lower number of transistors per CU (???).

If increasing number of CUs 2.5 times only brings 1.5 times better perf, I'd call it disappointing.

Depends on how you think of it, Turing's pricing was "unusual" in the bad way.

ASP price bump started when AMD Raja times, which is Pascal.

 

[SIGSEGV]

I knew that 3090 would be more costly. Well, it is very obvious that the main target of this card is for intermediate or even beginner researchers and professionals, especially for whom they use CUDA libraries for having fun with deep learning. Well, with 3090 hefty prices, I prefer to rent google cloud AI to serve my passion.
I really hope AMD has a secret recipe to counter these ampere GPU lineups.