Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600-CL18 OC for Ryzen 5 3600

[Waldorf]

in general power down/gear down should be off (when ocing ram) on ryzen anyway.

@mxking035
primary timings are much more important than S/T timings, at least when it comes to ryzen.
you want to get to/close to 3600 (1800 mhz) and then lower timings as much as possible.

 

[mxking035]

in general power down/gear down should be off (when ocing ram) on ryzen anyway.

@mxking035
primary timings are much more important than S/T timings, at least when it comes to ryzen.
you want to get to/close to 3600 (1800 mhz) and then lower timings as much as possible.

I mean in our case and results lowering primary while stuck at tRFC doesnt gain only its adding voltage. Comparing to previous post 16-19-16-36 my 16-20-20-40 has better results. Even we reach 16-16 still tRFC=560 in our ram.

That's why I mention "found out 16-20-20-40 is better so i will not get too far ratio from tRC and tRFC as it is limited by ram ". That's why examen1996 mention that "bang for the buck'' is 3733 16-20-20-20-40-64-570...." atleast we can still use our tRFC in this case .

In addition: Read in 1usmus post that best value for tRFC is between 6x tRC to 8x tRC which our ram barely reach x10.

 

[Waldorf]

well, my kit does 3600@ 16-19-19-19-36-58-312, voltage 1.35-1.36 and its enough for me.
not gonna spend the extra time to get it to work at 3733, as the Gb x570 are a bit bitchy with ram,
and all bios updates for ram "improvement" actually made stuff worse.

 

[mxking035]

in general power down/gear down should be off (when ocing ram) on ryzen anyway.

Noted.

primary timings are much more important than S/T timings, at least when it comes to ryzen.
you want to get to/close to 3600 (1800 mhz) and then lower timings as much as possible.

I highly agree with this. However considering lowering primary comes together with lowering tRFC for better effects. But in this ram stopped at some point of adding advantage due to tRFC limit that's why my 16-19 and 16-20 has same results, or even better in 16-20 cuz i don't need to add vSoC. Sorry for my english.

What also I mean in start with S/T is just my own advice or my own way with starting safe Primary in Dram Calculator 16-21-21-42-64-561 and XMP S/T, I maximized my S/T and I will easily point out where the errors comes, sometimes even passed the test, still game crash in middle.

that's why:
*I knew that tRC or tFAW caused my BSOD or crashed my mid game or so many errors.
*I knew that ProcODT/RTT fixed my error when I lower Tertiary specially that with SLC, tRDWR, tWRRD just to remove single error or no boot.
*I know my vSoC=1.1v caused single error so making it 1.05v error gone.

Until i have nothing to gain and stable in S/T, then I proceed to lower Primary with already stabilized S/T.
From that I need to add vSoC .025v for 1 step lower of tRCDRD in my setup to remove the 1 error in MemTest64 or add 0.01v Dram to stable my game without crashing in midgame, If Dram is not enough, sometimes my FPS is too low, adding .01v fixed it.

So my point is I'm fixing small errors at a time and I can point out where from those 33 timings the error comes from . These avoid random changing of timings and lost somewhere and go back to XMP.

Moreover: All stable S/T works in lower Primary. So finding errors shortened.

well, my kit does 3600@ 16-19-19-19-36-58-312, voltage 1.35-1.36 and its enough for me.
not gonna spend the extra time to get it to work at 3733, as the Gb x570 are a bit bitchy with ram,
and all bios updates for ram "improvement" actually made stuff worse.

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Wow nice info. So 3733 is sweet spot.

Oh very low tRFC.

 

[Taraquin]

Thank you for sharing. With this 3733 does your CPU temp increase for daily use?

Update: I just tried 2 sticks only and tRCDRD got below 21 like 16-19-19-36 but found out no benefits lowering it too much and just increasing Write but sacrifice Read, stability and voltage requirement. I tried this with my self limit of max vDram=1.37v and vSoC=1.1v ProcODT=53.3Ω and recommended tRP not lower than tRCDRD (I read somewhere):

Read:Write:Copy:Latency - All tested in TM5, MemTest64 (10 Loops) and my Game - no error, no game crash
16-21-21-21-42 - 1.36v soc=1.050v : 54,939 — 53,123 — 55,626 — 68.4 — same setting as 4 sticks, little loose secondary & tertiary timing
16-21-21-21-42 - 1.36v soc=1.050v : 55,400 — 53,300 — 55,800 — 68.2 — approx only, no screenshot - optimize secondary and tertiary
16-20-20-20-40 - 1.36v soc=1.075v : 55,499 — 53,394 — 56,564 — 67.8 — same 2nd and 3rd timing
16-19-16-19-36 - 1.37v soc=1.100v : 55,186 — 53,697 — 56,531 — 67.8 — same 2nd and 3rd timing

found out 16-20-20-40 is better so i will not get too far ratio from tRC and tRFC as it is limited by ram. Also this tRC and tFAW crashing my mid game (Dota2 - Max Settings) even it pass the TM5 and MemTest64. So I better stay with higher on that as it has small benefits in latency.

For me, better to optimized the secondary and tertiary timings before proceeding to lower primary as it increase more read/write/copy with lower latency and get it stable with ProcODT/RTT with lower voltage of DRAM and SoC requirements.

This is only my experience and this post also is my first search in google overclocking by searching my ram like examen1996 so big help from Freeco on examen1996 also learned here about importing thaiphoon is better and more stable baseline.

3600 16-21-21-21-42 tRFC=575 @1.36v
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3600 16-20-20-20-40 tRFC=558 @1.36v
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3600 16-19-16-19-36 tRFC=558 @1.37v
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A few tips for further tweaking: tRP can often ble lower, on rev E 11-12 is often stable, on Hynix you must often go higher. Is your second kit Micron rev B? tFAW and tRRDS is in a 4:1 relation. Best possible setting is tFAW 16, tRRDS 4. I would try tRRDS 7 tFAW 28 if I were you. tRC should go a bit lower, tried 60?

in general power down/gear down should be off (when ocing ram) on ryzen anyway.

@mxking035
primary timings are much more important than S/T timings, at least when it comes to ryzen.
you want to get to/close to 3600 (1800 mhz) and then lower timings as much as possible.

Actually, tRFC is the second most impactful timing in most gamingscenarios after CL. tFAW, tCWL (follows CL) and tRW also matters quite a bit. All these timings has much higher impact on games than tRCDRD/WR. In some apps and benches tRCDRD can matter quite a bit. tRP and tRAS has some impact, but not as much as tRFC.

If I make a list of most importat timings for games it would be: CL>tRFC>CR>GDM>tRC>tRP>tRAS>tFAW>tWR>tCWL>tRCDRD/WR. Not the truth by any means, but I think I'm close based on many hours of testing different subs, atleast on my system.
When running xmp you tRFC at 3200 tends to be 560. On a good B-die kit you can get down to 250, that can improve perf be over 10% alone in some games, even on Micron E you can get it down to 450 which gives you a few percent.

 

[mxking035]

A few tips for further tweaking: tRP can often ble lower, on rev E 11-12 is often stable, on Hynix you must often go higher. Is your second kit Micron rev B? tFAW and tRRDS is in a 4:1 relation. Best possible setting is tFAW 16, tRRDS 4. I would try tRRDS 7 tFAW 28 if I were you. tRC should go a bit lower, tried 60?

My 2 sets of sticks, Micron E-Die and Samsung B-Die. total 4x8GB.
My testing for 2 sticks is the B-die which tRFC can lower until 555 only almost same as E-Die. I will try my E-Die on those settings after I'm done with B-Die.

*tRP, I check my history table i tried to make until 18 and didn't see difference. So I stick with tRP=tRCDRD, as 1usmus recommended.

*Tried tRRDS:tFAW;
5:20 - 1st boot issue & no gain & BSOD
5:26 - 1st boot issue & no gain & BSOD
6:24 - game crashing/1 error/BSOD
until tFAW 32 is stable but no gain - only possibility of crashing so my best choice is 34/35 atleast near to 6xtRRDS (Recommended by 1usmus x6 to remove single error). So i forget about tFAW, see below photo by 1usmus his tFAW is high.

*tRC i can go until 60 but will cause huge errors, 62 no error but crashing my midgame. so I stick with 63/64.
Also considering recommendation range of tRFC=6xtRC until 8xtRC, still our tRFC is far from x8. so I better near with tRFC atleast as they are sycn and I didn't find it lowering if I cannot lower my tRFC.

Actually, tRFC is the second most impactful timing in most gamingscenarios after CL. tFAW, tCWL (follows CL) and tRW also matters quite a bit. All these timings has much higher impact on games than tRCDRD/WR. In some apps and benches tRCDRD can matter quite a bit. tRP and tRAS has some impact, but not as much as tRFC.

Yes agreed. Thanks for advice. Tried also tCWL 14 and think its better.
As it doesn't necessary to be same with tCL on some board. Even in auto my tCWL is 14.
Previously with my 16-21-21-42-64-575 4-sticks optimized (maximum I can do) with my S/T i reach 8k in cinemabench with D15S Air Cooler.

If I make a list of most important timings for games it would be: CL>tRFC>CR>GDM>tRC>tRP>tRAS>tFAW>tWR>tCWL>tRCDRD/WR. Not the truth by any means, but I think I'm close based on many hours of testing different subs, atleast on my system.

I agree, I see most gains in latency on those. Also I'm considering Read/Write/Copy and I gain from tertiary, ProcODT, RTT. Sometimes I have to higher time some related to "Write" and gain it on "Read". tRTP decrease my latency for by very little but loss my "Read" mb/s.

1usmus timings: My most basis of timings and with his articles.

My cinemabench: Not necessary but to prove my claim.

For those not yet having R9 3900x: Here is for reference top score in Cinemabench in hwbot, please refer with the one using Air Cooler only.

Cinebench - R20 overclocking records @ HWBOT

Overclocking records

hwbot.org

 

[examen1996]

My 2 sets of sticks, Micron E-Die and Samsung B-Die. total 4x8GB.
My testing for 2 sticks is the B-die which tRFC can lower until 555 only almost same as E-Die. I will try my E-Die on those settings after I'm done with B-Die.

*tRP, I check my history table i tried to make until 18 and didn't see difference. So I stick with tRP=tRCDRD, as 1usmus recommended.

*Tried tRRDS:tFAW;
5:20 - 1st boot issue & no gain & BSOD
5:26 - 1st boot issue & no gain & BSOD
6:24 - game crashing/1 error/BSOD
until tFAW 32 is stable but no gain - only possibility of crashing so my best choice is 34/35 atleast near to 6xtRRDS (Recommended by 1usmus x6 to remove single error). So i forget about tFAW, see below photo by 1usmus his tFAW is high.

*tRC i can go until 60 but will cause huge errors, 62 no error but crashing my midgame. so I stick with 63/64.
Also considering recommendation range of tRFC=6xtRC until 8xtRC, still our tRFC is far from x8. so I better near with tRFC atleast as they are sycn and I didn't find it lowering if I cannot lower my tRFC.


Yes agreed. Thanks for advice. Tried also tCWL 14 and think its better.
As it doesn't necessary to be same with tCL on some board. Even in auto my tCWL is 14.
Previously with my 16-21-21-42-64-575 4-sticks optimized (maximum I can do) with my S/T i reach 8k in cinemabench with D15S Air Cooler.


I agree, I see most gains in latency on those. Also I'm considering Read/Write/Copy and I gain from tertiary, ProcODT, RTT. Sometimes I have to higher time some related to "Write" and gain it on "Read". tRTP decrease my latency for by very little but loss my "Read" mb/s.

1usmus timings: My most basis of timings and with his articles.
View attachment 167961

My cinemabench: Not necessary but to prove my claim.
View attachment 167962

For those not yet having R9 3900x: Here is for reference top score in Cinemabench in hwbot, please refer with the one using Air Cooler only.

Cinebench - R20 overclocking records @ HWBOT

Overclocking records

hwbot.org

Don't forget to also enjoy you pc ) , been in this rabbit hole before, be it ram oc or cpu oc (obviously not with this cpu ), don't get too worked up about some numbers that change on a bench .
Play or work or whatever, and when you will upgrade again, probably your gpu , then you cand continue to ram oc if you deem it necessary(bootleneck, but I doubt pushing the ram further will do anything worthwhile).

In my opinion your results are already great

 

[mxking035]

Don't forget to also enjoy you pc ) , been in this rabbit hole before, be it ram oc or cpu oc (obviously not with this cpu ), don't get too worked up about some numbers that change on a bench .
Play or work or whatever, and when you will upgrade again, probably your gpu , then you cand continue to ram oc if you deem it necessary(bootleneck, but I doubt pushing the ram further will do anything worthwhile).

In my opinion your results are already great

Actually enjoying it on rendering really fast.
This PC is for my hobbies like structural designing, modelling, rendering and gaming Dota 2: 200-236 FPS. Tuning CPU and Ram is my added relaxation time and this post is my first time search about ram OC. My PC is just 2 months old and my first gaming PC.

Anyone can call it waste of time but I think it's better doing something than smoking outside or watching korean drama
This PC match my previous enjoyment and more safety than (Fuel Injected Motorbike Tuning - using laptop and phone) drag.

Before buying this PC I don't have any idea about this things, I just told the builder that this is my budget for PC, I know only i3, i5, i7 and how big is the ram, I thought my laptop i7 is fast which only I found it 2-cores .

Coming to GDM:
examen1996 I tested GDM off, I just did a quick test:
But before GDM off, first I have to higher my tRDWR:tWRRD from 6:1 to 8:3 to fix no boot.
*16-20-20-40 from 67.8ns to 67.2ns you are right
*16-19-19-38 BSOD can't go to windows, I tried to make Command Rate Auto its trying to go 2T buts still BSOD.

Observed that when GDM off, CAD Bus has effects and results are not constant which needs to be clear.
60-20-20-40 - worked best in latency 67.2 to 67.5ns.
20-24-40-30 - latency little constant on 67.3/67.4ns
24-30-24-24 - 67.7 to 68ns

well, my kit does 3600@ 16-19-19-19-36-58-312, voltage 1.35-1.36 and its enough for me.
not gonna spend the extra time to get it to work at 3733, as the Gb x570 are a bit bitchy with ram,
and all bios updates for ram "improvement" actually made stuff worse.

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Just have a quick try on 3733: but i just notice I mistyped the tRFC 653, I'm trying 563
Tried with my (16-21-21-42 auto CADbus) settings as baseline but @1.38v and change tRFC which I mistyped.

First boot have some errors and crash the TM5 (basic 5-7min). So I add ProcODT and reduce vSoC: 48Ω and 1.075v at the same time to make sure no single error as it was just quick view while waiting for driver .And got TM5 pass. Not sure yet which from vSoC or ProcODT make it stable, maybe ProcODT.

I will try it next time optimized 3733 with lower tRFC, ower Primary and S/T until ProcODT 53.3Ω.

Pass TM5 with ProcODT=48 and vSoC=1.075v @1.38v. I'll try lower vDram if it works, I can assure only with Memtest64 and play game with it max set @1080p and no crashing at midgame, otherwise I have to add 0.1v vDram or ProcODT53.3 or vSoC1.1 or add little tRFC like 2-4.

 

[Taraquin]

I have to raise volrage by 0.03V to stabilize if I disable GDM.
ProcODT can stabilize if lowered, but voltage requirements might go up.
You shouldn't need that high tRCD, 20, should be enough, tRAS should be tCL+tRCD or + 2 so 37 or 39 or one lower if you can run tRCD 20. You can probably liwer tRP quite a bit, only Hynux struggles with that value, Samsung and Micron trives at liw tRP, 15 or maybe lower should work. tRAS+tRP also sets lowest tRC-value which in turn sets tRFC.

 

[mxking035]

I have to raise volrage by 0.03V to stabilize if I disable GDM.
ProcODT can stabilize if lowered, but voltage requirements might go up.
You shouldn't need that high tRCD, 20, should be enough, tRAS should be tCL+tRCD or + 2 so 37 or 39 or one lower if you can run tRCD 20. You can probably liwer tRP quite a bit, only Hynux struggles with that value, Samsung and Micron trives at liw tRP, 15 or maybe lower should work. tRAS+tRP also sets lowest tRC-value which in turn sets tRFC.

I agree, thanks for advice. My best setup is 16-20-20-40 as of now, but I consider testing again with lower tRP and tRAS. Before, I tried until 16-36 and as i remember it just increased my "Copy/Write" but lost in "Read" with small latency gain 0.1-0.2ns. That's why I use flat type as "Read" is not decrease or balanced.

Yes higher ProcODT can lower your vDram requirements .
As of now, I see GDM off work for me with higher tRDWR:tWRRD. So i skipped increasing vDram.

I think additional 0.03v is high with GDM off and sacrifice stability, even though it cuts 0.5ns but not constant when you try it many times in Aida64 from 67.2 to 67.7ns depends with CadBus combinations. Maybe due to CadBus timing and CadBus has no limit so it has really huge possible combinations.

 

[Taraquin]

In certain games GDM off gave me 2-3% better perf.

 

[examen1996]

60-20-20-40 is the safest bet, as for the gdm, yes it does a lot

 

[Mcg]

Hi Everyone, Just ran into trouble regarding same issue.


I'm running Ryzen 5 3600X with Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite.
2 Kits of 8*2 Total 32GB 3600mhz
Corsair CMW16GX4M2B3600C18

I tried to figuer out what is the problem with running XMP profile with my system.
With the First version of my bios the XMP wont run at all,then it got upgraded and it did work but sometimes the pc wont post/Go to BSOD.
In the past week im trying to find what could work (Timing) but today all of sudden after messing with some Numbers the pc Just went off, when i boot it the thing goes to a black screen with the fans in the case going 100%.
Only thing to make it stop is to kill the PSU.
If i try to restart it goes to the same loop.


The annoying problem is that im not able to CMOS with the 2Pins that are on the board so my only option for CMOS is getting the battery off (which sucks-located under the GPU with).
Another problem showed up, now every command im trying to change with the Memory resolve the same kill switch to the system and forcrd to CMOS in order to return to normal.
Tried only XMP on and got the same result, tried manual change only the speed to 3200 and it did aswell.


Did my memory died? Lol im not sure what went wrong, the numbers i wrote were the one DRAM calculator showed me.

Current running on stock speed-2133mhz.

This kit of memory fits only intel cpu's?

Appricate the help, thanks.

 

[mxking035]

Hi Everyone, Just ran into trouble regarding same issue.


I'm running Ryzen 5 3600X with Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite.
2 Kits of 8*2 Total 32GB 3600mhz
Corsair CMW16GX4M2B3600C18

I tried to figuer out what is the problem with running XMP profile with my system.
With the First version of my bios the XMP wont run at all,then it got upgraded and it did work but sometimes the pc wont post/Go to BSOD.
In the past week im trying to find what could work (Timing) but today all of sudden after messing with some Numbers the pc Just went off, when i boot it the thing goes to a black screen with the fans in the case going 100%.
Only thing to make it stop is to kill the PSU.
If i try to restart it goes to the same loop.


The annoying problem is that im not able to CMOS with the 2Pins that are on the board so my only option for CMOS is getting the battery off (which sucks-located under the GPU with).
Another problem showed up, now every command im trying to change with the Memory resolve the same kill switch to the system and forcrd to CMOS in order to return to normal.
Tried only XMP on and got the same result, tried manual change only the speed to 3200 and it did aswell.


Did my memory died? Lol im not sure what went wrong, the numbers i wrote were the one DRAM calculator showed me.

Current running on stock speed-2133mhz.

This kit of memory fits only intel cpu's?

Appricate the help, thanks.

Can you try Enable XMP and manually set Dram Voltage to 1.37v.

Can you share your screenshot of Ryzen Master info of ram?

 

[Mcg]

Any change im making atm is causing me going into the black screen loop.
Cant recall how many time i removed my GPU.

 

[mxking035]

Any change im making atm is causing me going into the black screen loop.
Cant recall how many time i removed my GPU.

My ram also can't work with XMP below 1.37v with 4 sticks.

I have to raise volrage by 0.03V to stabilize if I disable GDM.
ProcODT can stabilize if lowered, but voltage requirements might go up.
You shouldn't need that high tRCD, 20, should be enough, tRAS should be tCL+tRCD or + 2 so 37 or 39 or one lower if you can run tRCD 20. You can probably liwer tRP quite a bit, only Hynux struggles with that value, Samsung and Micron trives at liw tRP, 15 or maybe lower should work. tRAS+tRP also sets lowest tRC-value which in turn sets tRFC.

This my results lowering tRP and tRAS.
It decreases my "Read" increase "Write" and slows down my L3 Cache.

 

[Mcg]

Can you try Enable XMP and manually set Dram Voltage to 1.37v.

Can you share your screenshot of Ryzen Master info of ram?

BTW -that huge black screen loop was becouse of the damn MotherBoard. I downgraded to a lower version and now im able to set manul speeds and settings (At the time im at 3200mhz and its stable for now-Xmp enabled would give me BSOD or the 3 crash loop.

Thank you for your time and help my friend.

 

[mxking035]

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BTW -that huge black screen loop was becouse of the damn MotherBoard. I downgraded to a lower version and now im able to set manul speeds and settings (At the time im at 3200mhz and its stable for now-Xmp enabled would give me BSOD or the 3 crash loop.

Thank you for your time and help my friend.

I see your tWRRD is 1, it will not work with 4 sticks of that ram in my case. Should atleast 3. And your ProcODT is high, 43 or 48 is fine. With vSoC=1. 05. vDram=1.37v.

This is my XMP. Its very loose timing, should work for you. Your board setting tWRRD auto for 2 sticks.

My board is just click button for CMOS. Lucky for me. I think better you find solution first to work with your CMOS easily before tightening anything in ram. I guess its just a jumper. You can DIY something.

I'm running Ryzen 5 3600X with Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite.
2 Kits of 8*2 Total 32GB 3600mhz
Corsair CMW16GX4M2B3600C18

Correction, your ram is not CMW16GX4M2B3600C18, It's CMW16GX4M2D3600C18, so same ours only its B-die same on my half set.

 

[Taraquin]

I would evaluate using a game, shadow of the tomb raider for instance. Aida gives clues but it doesn't always show real world performance. I have seen several times that my aida-score got slughtly worse, but in games performance was higher

 

[mxking035]

I would evaluate using a game, shadow of the tomb raider for instance. Aida gives clues but it doesn't always show real world performance. I have seen several times that my aida-score got slughtly worse, but in games performance was higher

I see, I check with that sometime.

60-20-20-40 is the safest bet, as for the gdm, yes it does a lot

What is you VDDP and VDDG for 3733? I notice auto is high around VDDG=1.15v. Can you share your 3733 ryzen master?

 

[mxking035]

I see, I check with that sometime.


What is you VDDP and VDDG for 3733? I notice auto is high around VDDG=1.15v. Can you share your 3733 ryzen master?

I notice that the E-Die is doing well than B-Die with the same model in 3733, requires smaller VDDP and VDDG than my B-Die.

 

[karkass]

Hello guys, I returned to the rabbit hole of attempts at ram overclock. I own two kits of CMK16GX4M2D3600C18 (2x 2x8). I have an x570 Aorus Elite rev 1.0 on F30 Bios version + 3800x on stock speeds. Please help me find some good known values. I am sick of errors and bsods. If I can't get stable c16 I will settle with c18. But at this moment nothing seems to be stable. Before I've used xmp values but with xmp disabled, and seemed ok.
Anyways, any help would be appreciated.

 

[mxking035]

Hello guys, I returned to the rabbit hole of attempts at ram overclock. I own two kits of CMK16GX4M2D3600C18 (2x 2x8). I have an x570 Aorus Elite rev 1.0 on F30 Bios version + 3800x on stock speeds. Please help me find some good known values. I am sick of errors and bsods. If I can't get stable c16 I will settle with c18. But at this moment nothing seems to be stable. Before I've used xmp values but with xmp disabled, and seemed ok.
Anyways, any help would be appreciated.

can you check if those are Micron E-Die or Samsung B-Die(downbinned)?
can you show your zentimings? https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

 

[karkass]

can you check if those are Micron E-Die or Samsung B-Die(downbinned)?
can you show your zentimings? https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

First of all I want to thank you for your response. The zen timings I will show you are just the values of the xmp.
Both my kits are the same, and are micron e die. In that .rar is the taiphoon html. The closest I've reached was with one of your setups, the 16.21.21.21.42 if I am not mistaken. I've even passed the windows memtest, but then I've started to bsod.

 

[mxking035]

First of all I want to thank you for your response. The zen timings I will show you are just the values of the xmp.
Both my kits are the same, and are micron e die. In that .rar is the taiphoon html. The closest I've reached was with one of your setups, the 16.21.21.21.42 if I am not mistaken. I've even passed the windows memtest, but then I've started to bsod.

Problem with this ram and with 4 sticks tRCDRD cant go lower in my case.
But probably you can try with 3666 16-21-21-42 1.38/1.39v 4 sticks. But 2 sticks works until 3733 on me.

In this ram also cause me BSOD if I try higher vDram so better 1.37-1.38v.

You can also try below settings for 4 sticks as initial. vsoc=1.05v. vDram=
37v. If it works you can go lower 16-20-20-40 same at 1.37v same vSoC.

Or you can post your settings which make you BSOD and use 1usmus v3 TM5 to check your timings.
Maybe some experts here can help with error code.I'm also newbie and still exploring.