Xeon Owners Club

[Zyll Goliat]

Which performs better in gaming in term of avg FPS in games?
E5 2620 v3 turbo boost unlocked vs E5 1620 v2 3.8 Ghz
Been looking for this benchmark online but there's only OC'ed 1620 vs 2620 v3 UTB video on YouTube
The 8gb 1620 v2 setup is about ~25$ cheaper than that of 2620 v3
If 2620 v3 is like only avg 2-4 fps better , I'll take 1620 v2 for better price to performance

Well here is the thing.....first of all also depend with what motherboard you will pair this cpu's because 1620 v2 is unlocked and it can be OC easily beyond 4ghz on some decent mobo...second E5 2620 V3 is 6c/12t so you have more threads even if is it maybe a bit slower on single core performance you will have more power under the "hood" which is also important in gaming + turbo unlock hack works on cheap Chinese motherboards so this CPU probably can work on 3,2Ghz on all cores and then his IPC wil be better....

If you do not planing to do any OC or turbo-bios-hack and you asking just for stock speed between these 2 cpu's then I guess it will really depend of the game you playing because most/older games still prefer "few"faster cores BUT newer games starting to like more cores/threads and sometimes even if they are slower they can give you more FPS in certain situations......
It's a close race between these 2 but In this case I will pick 2620 v3.....saying that even 6c/12t is not enough anymore maybe you can look for some cheap 8c/16t solution?

Yesterday just put Cooler Master Hyper T20 cooler for 90W TDP X3360, conclussion:
On 100% CPU load on WCG & other GPU projects top temp is 75C - according to Tthrottle monitor.

Just putting my 2 cents here for an info, about a 10€ cooler.

If you have somewhere 1 more fan put it on it it will work GREAT on CM T20 as twin-turbo and sometimes temps can go down drastically....

 

[sepheronx]

I am lucky I have X79/Sabertooth......here is the difference in Cpu-z results....

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tho' 2650 V2 aint' bad on stock speed either 2,6ghz and boosting on few cores on 3,4Ghz

i monitored with afterburner and found that mine boosts all cores at 3Ghz.

Not bad.

I was planning on getting a 1650 v2 instead for this system. Or even a 1680 v2 if I wait long enough. But that wont happen now as I will probably end up selling this machine by end of the year as apparently my 10500 ES processor is actually coming in (ordered it one to two months ago), and slowly building a new machine under that setup.

Or I may keep it. All depends. I can pick up these HP Z420's for fairly cheap ($170-200 CAD), so I can always keep the processor and put back in the E5 1620 v2 in there and sell it as a cheap gaming rig.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

i monitored with afterburner and found that mine boosts all cores at 3Ghz.

Not bad.

I was planning on getting a 1650 v2 instead for this system. Or even a 1680 v2 if I wait long enough. But that wont happen now as I will probably end up selling this machine by end of the year as apparently my 10500 ES processor is actually coming in (ordered it one to two months ago), and slowly building a new machine under that setup.

Or I may keep it. All depends. I can pick up these HP Z420's for fairly cheap ($170-200 CAD), so I can always keep the processor and put back in the E5 1620 v2 in there and sell it as a cheap gaming rig.

Depend of the workload but usually goes something like this with 2650 V2:
3100 MHz (4 or more cores)
3200 MHz (3 cores)
3300 MHz (2 cores)
3400 MHz (1 core)

 

[lexluthermiester]

Which performs better in gaming in term of avg FPS in games?
E5 2620 v3 turbo boost unlocked vs E5 1620 v2 3.8 Ghz
Been looking for this benchmark online but there's only OC'ed 1620 vs 2620 v3 UTB video on YouTube
The 8gb 1620 v2 setup is about ~25$ cheaper than that of 2620 v3
If 2620 v3 is like only avg 2-4 fps better , I'll take 1620 v2 for better price to performance

Both of those would be not so great a choice for gaming. A Xeon E5-1660 V2 would give you solid gaming performance for the price you'll pay;

Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 @ 2.40GHz vs Intel Xeon E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz vs Intel Xeon E5-1660 v2 @ 3.70GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

Intel Xeon E5-1660 V2 SR1AP 3.70GHz CPU Processor | eBay

This CPU was pulled from a working unit. This CPU looks to be in good/fair condition. (See pictures).

www.ebay.com

If that is to high a price, a 1650 v2 get near the same performance as the 1660 v2 but half the price;

Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 @ 2.40GHz vs Intel Xeon E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz vs Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

Intel (CM8063501292204) Processor for sale online | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Intel (CM8063501292204) Processor at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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You can buy a dirt cheap 1620 if you want, but the 6core CPU's will last you longer and have better value.

BTW, welcome to TPU!

 

[sepheronx]

1650v2 is a solid CPU for gaming. It gets close to the Ryzen 1600 in performance. My 1620v2 beat out in single core performance a 1600. So the 1650v2 should do much better.

 

[KLiKzg]

If you have somewhere 1 more fan put it on it it will work GREAT on CM T20 as twin-turbo and sometimes temps can go down drastically....

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I would need to find:
- Rubber holder for the CM T20 or Hyper T20? Do they sell these on aftermarket?
- Counted rotating fan or turn it to have correct laminating stream of air out. but that's not a big issue.

Damn you, now you got me excited.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I would need to find:
- Rubber holder for the CM T20 or Hyper T20? Do they sell these on aftermarket?
- Counted rotating fan or turn it to have correct laminating stream of air out. but that's not a big issue.

Damn you, now you got me excited.

Well I have Xigmatek Loki SD963 it's also a budget cooler that have 3 cooper pipes(so nothing special) and I been using it more then 2 years now and yes I mounted second fan on it tho' luckily I did have those rubber holders on those fan but even if you don't have them you can use maybe some wire or something just be creative you will figure something I am sure....
The best solution is to configure fans with the airflow in your case so from one side mount fan to take the air and the other fan mount to blow it out.....
I been using it like that since my X58 platform and now on X79 also.... I remember when I mount the second fan on it temps on my X58 6core Xeon went down a lot so I was able to push it much more on OC....GL

 

[Edwired]

Anyone notices that since newer cpu tends to be more power hungry as the wattages is going to go up instead of going down. It quite funny the how the power efficient is been waved about

Yesterday just put Cooler Master Hyper T20 cooler for 90W TDP X3360, conclussion:
On 100% CPU load on WCG & other GPU projects top temp is 75C - according to Tthrottle monitor.

Just putting my 2 cents here for an info, about a 10€ cooler.

It depends on the tjmax is been set to as a lot of arguments about the way it been set to like it could be 85c in one monitoring software and another will report 100c

X3360 has Tjmax of 95C, while X5460/E5450 both have Tjmax of 85C. That means, that upon switching from X3360 to X5460, the temperature reported by CoreTemp were 10C higher than its actual temperature. If you haven't changed the Tjmax value in the settings/config file, it might have seemed that your X5460 was getting quite hot, when it really wasn't.

 

[8BitZ80]

This is by far the closest match I've ever seen between two processors in their manufacturing markings.
I can only assume they were manufactured in the same batch and have co-existed together for all these years.

 

[Mr.Scott]

This is by far the closest match I've ever seen between two processors in their manufacturing markings.
I can only assume they were manufactured in the same batch and have co-existed together for all these years.

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Serial number is only 9 apart.

 

[Edwired]

What the odds of getting a pair that are 1 digit apart

 

[Mr.Scott]

What the odds of getting a pair that are 1 digit apart

I think I have a pair of Athlon MP's that are 1 apart. I'll have to look now.

 

[bobbybluz]

My E5 2683 V4 arrived Monday but due to much more important issues on the home front I haven't had time to swap it with the V3 yet. While I'm doing that it's also getting a PSU upgrade. Hopefully I can finally get to it tomorrow.

 

[phill]

Guys very daft question.... X58... Do we have a thread for just that or not?? I could have sworn we'd have something somewhere for sure but it might only be in this Xeon owners club thread?? Could someone please put me out of my misery??

 

[Edwired]

Guys very daft question.... X58... Do we have a thread for just that or not?? I could have sworn we'd have something somewhere for sure but it might only be in this Xeon owners club thread?? Could someone please put me out of my misery??

There's plenty of threads about x58 else where but only a handful found on techpowerup as far as i know

 

[phill]

Well I have something to share but I've no clue where to put it!! !!

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Well I have something to share but I've no clue where to put it!! !!

@phill Just put it in here.....I am sure all Xeon owners are interested in everything about X58 platform......

 

[phill]

Well, as long as you are sure as these are not Xeon's.....

Apologies for the big image but I thought as I was looking for two of these CPUs for my EVGA Classified boards as they can't take the Xeon's due to being revision 1.0, when these two came up that my mate over in Ohio showed me, it was like, damn....
I believe they where slightly over priced but for the simple fact of them both being completely boxed and complete, I just couldn't say no.... Age related wear and tear on the box, sadly not perfect but I've no idea on the chances of picking up two of these from the same seller, that's boxed and working?? My mate is going to test them out for me at some point, so I'm very much interested in seeing them up and running

And on another turn of events....
I had a Gigabyte X58-UD7 board bought a while ago, had issues with it from the start not posting, RAM not being recognised and all sorts, but for some strange reason, it's now up and running without any issues....



Oh how I miss Windows 7....

I even installed the heatsink on the north bridge as after a bit of testing it was feeling a little warm, so made sure I had all the screws and such for that and got it installed... Think a small fan over it would cool it much better than the big heatsink but still
So finally a working UD7 board with all the RAM slots working and filled... I know it's going to be tempting fate, but I'm going to strip out the RAM again and then put it back in and check it's all working, even with a CPU swap out just to make absolutely sure... Then I can put the board to one side and then get cracking on a few others I need to get tested

That was all

 

[sepheronx]

Time heals all wounds Phil. Guess that's what happened with your mobo

Awesome setup

 

[lexluthermiester]

That's a bit of a score! How much did you pay?

 

[phill]

Time heals all wounds Phil. Guess that's what happened with your mobo

Awesome setup

It sure healed something!! God knows what it could have been but it seems to be working so..... Thank you for the nice comment!!

That's a bit of a score! How much did you pay?

I believe my mate managed to grab them both posted for $300 with taxes since Ebay adds it on point of payment now Bit high like I said but even the coolers I've seen on there for nearly £50 and that's without the box, manual or anything... I just hope they don't suck at overclocking!

 

[lexluthermiester]

I just hope they don't suck at overclocking!

They don't. Intel binning more or less ensures you will get at least a decent OC with those chips. You should get 4ghz minimum out of them. 4.1/4.2ghz should doable with minimum effort.

 

[phill]

If anything I'd love for them to be as good as my 920 D0's I have but... We'll see What it will mean is that I'll have to possibly retube and reinstall all OS's on the two rigs and then we can have some fun with playing with some benchmarks and seeing what we can do I'll see if I can track down a X5680 which I think is more or less the same as a 980X and see if we can match the scores/overclock etc. Whatever way, I hope it'll be fun

 

[Mr.Scott]

Keep em cool, you'll be fine.
4.3 on air with minimal effort.
Post some results when you get going.

 

[Toothless]

So just having a fan pointed to the coolers dropped temps by another 10-15c after undervolting for 10c off. Now I'm dialing up and ran through cinebench r20 and cpu-z benches, hoping for a good and stable overclock.

So far, took on a stock 3700x.

EDIT: 4.25ghz is too much for it, so flat 4 it is.

Yes I did do an R20 run, or few, to check it all over.