AMD Ryzen 5000 "Zen 3" "Vermeer" Launch Liveblog

[Rahnak]

I hope they do a 5700X later on. There's a pretty big price gap between the 5600X and the 5800X.

 

[ShurikN]

Unfortunately, I think Big Navi might fall short of Nvidia's best.

Looks like it's 10fps down on 3080 in two of the 3 games. I'll come down to pricing. Probably another 5700XT VS 2070Super situation (in terms of price/perf).

 

[kapone32]

Let me be brutally honest. AMD is no different than Intel in terms of dictating prices when they have the performance crown.

The pricing for the Ryzen 5000 series:

5600X: $300 - very close to the price of the 3700X which featured two more cores.
5800X: $450
5900X: $550
5950X: $800

All priced $50 higher than their Ryzen 3000 counterparts.

What is your point? Who isn't excited about these especially if you were able to compare the 3100x vs the 3300x. That is why I am happy to pay that for a 5600X.

 

[milewski1015]

I hope they do a 5700X later on. There's a pretty big price gap between the 5600X and the 5800X.

Agreed. Hopefully there'll be some non-X SKUs too, since at MSRP the X SKUs are generally not worth spending more for

 

[chaosmassive]

if AMD follow their tradition, there will be non X SKU which hopefully shave off another 50-100 unnecessary spending on X counterpart.

 

[TheLostSwede]

 

[Frick]

Let me be brutally honest. AMD is no different than Intel in terms of dictating prices when they have the performance crown.

The pricing for the Ryzen 5000 series:

5600X: $300 - very close to the price of the 3700X which featured two more cores.
5800X: $450
5900X: $550
5950X: $800

All priced $50 higher than their Ryzen 3000 counterparts. What's more, there's no sign of 5700X which was a sweet spot for the previous gen Ryzen CPUs. Either you pay $50 more for the 3600X alternative or you have to pay whopping $120 more to get just two more cores.

Customers first, my ass. More like profits first now that Intel still cannot solve their 10nm node.

No one assumed otherwise. At least not anyone worth listening to.

 

[kapone32]

Think I might go all in with a 5950x but didnt se any info about compability with mainboards and would have liked to see the Ifinity speeds

There should be zero issues with B550 and X570 boards with BIOS updates. Even budget B550 boards have BIOS flashback.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

wow big navi matches rtx 3080 at 4k in 3 games, about 5 fps slower than 3080, but still wow. well done AMD

Matches?

I mean go to Wizz RTX3080 review and look at Gears 5 and BL3 4k numbers. Big Navi is like ~10fps lower in both those games.

Basically sits exactly where I thought it would.

 

[kapone32]

Matches?

I mean go to Wizz RTX3080 review and look at Gears 5 and BL3 4k numbers. Big Navi is like ~10fps lower in both those games.

Basically sits exactly where I thought it would.

But which Navi card is it?

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Where is the 5ghz hype train?

 

[BoboOOZ]

Unfortunately, I think Big Navi might fall short of Nvidia's best.

They said Radeon 6000, we don(t even know if what we saw was the biggest Navi.

 

[gravel]

AMD The World's Best Gaming CPUs ...rip intel

 

[Space Lynx]

Matches?

I mean go to Wizz RTX3080 review and look at Gears 5 and BL3 4k numbers. Big Navi is like ~10fps lower in both those games.

Basically sits exactly where I thought it would.

still not bad considering how big of a leap the 3080 was.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

But which Navi card is it?

They said Radeon 6000, we don(t even know if what we saw was the biggest Navi.

This is true we don't know.

still not bad considering how big of a leap the 3080 was.

3080 wasnt that big of a leap if we are talking pure rasterization.

 

[birdie]

Where is the 5ghz hype train?

Derailed as it's been with AMD for the past 10 years?

 

[the54thvoid]

Where is the 5ghz hype train?

Clock frequency is less important than IPC. It's why AMD had their crazy high power FX chips at 5GHz. It was just a number. Now they're serious. Thanks to an engineer named Su.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

still not bad considering how big of a leap the 3080 was.

Clock frequency is less important than IPC. It's why AMD had their crazy high power FX chips at 5GHz. It was just a number. Now they're serious. Thanks to an engineer named Su.

Su and Jim Keller

 

[R0H1T]

Let me be brutally honest. AMD is no different than Intel in terms of dictating prices when they have the performance crown.

The pricing for the Ryzen 5000 series:

5600X: $300 - very close to the price of the 3700X which featured two more cores.
5800X: $450
5900X: $550
5950X: $800

All priced $50 higher than their Ryzen 3000 counterparts. What's more, there's no sign of 5700X which was a sweet spot for the previous gen Ryzen CPUs. Either you pay $50 more for the 3600X alternative or you have to pay whopping $120 more to get just two more cores.

Customers first, my ass. More like profits first now that Intel still cannot solve their 10nm node.

Let me be brutally honest, Intel don't lower their MSRP they just EOL their processors & launch new ones with more clock speeds or HT ~ that's their playbook for more than a decade! You want a new gen chip with an old chipset ~ sucks to be you because Intel not only locks you in with their BS OCing premium on their processors but also locks you out of performing upgrades because they just need to mint $ like there's no tomorrow. I have a couple of x9xx motherboards with no upgrade path because ~ Intel

So stop your BS comparisons about what AMD & Intel do

 

[Punkenjoy]

Where is the 5ghz hype train?

That hype train is just another proof than enthousiast don't know what they need. They are able to beat Intel with a CPU that have less Frequency. So do you still need more GHz? or more perf?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Think I might go all in with a 5950x but didnt se any info about compability with mainboards and would have liked to see the Ifinity speeds

It's all up on their website already

https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen

 

[birdie]

Clock frequency is less important than IPC. It's why AMD had their crazy high power FX chips at 5GHz. It was just a number. Now they're serious. Thanks to an engineer named Su.

I'm 100% sure Lisa has had zero input/impact on any Zen uArch. She's a CEO, not a CPU engineer. She might have chimed in on their pricing though.

 

[Zareek]

Someone put +$100 for 5800X, 3800X launched at $399.99 so it's $50. Not sure why but it quoted the wrong post.

I'm a little disappointed by the price increases but I suspect this is only a launch price. It gives them room to react as Intel drops it's prices while bagging as much profit from the early adopters as possible.

 

[laszlo]

no comment til see the reviews of all ... cpu&gpu...

 

[Punkenjoy]

Let me be brutally honest, Intel don't lower their MSRP they just EOL their processors & launch new ones more clockspeeds or HT ~ that's their playbook for more than a decade! You want a new gen chip with an old shipset ~ sucks to be you because Intel not only locks you in with their BS OCing premium on their processors but also locks you out of performing upgrades because they just need to mint $ like there's no tomorrow. I have a couple of x9xx motherboards with no upgrade path because ~ Intel

So stop your BS comparisons about what AMD & Intel do

Yes, if you have a 5xx series motherboard or supported 4xx series motherboard, you will just be able to pay for a new CPU to upgrade where with Intel, you always have to add the cost of a new motherboard. I will certainly buy a 5900x or something like that later down the road (maybe next summer) to replace my 3600.

Drop in replacement are amazing. But hey, don't get too exited, it's pretty clear that there will be a new AMD socket for DDR5.

Also, i am happy about what i am seeing, but AMD is a corporation. Their goal is to make money. That's it. So don't cheer to much for a company. But i am very happy that there is a fight going on between Intel and AMD. Just hope Intel will fight back hard so AMD have to reply hard and etc...

This is what is good for customer.

Like with GPU, if the rumors that Nvidia cranked up Ampere to fight AMD are true, well it's all good for us no matter what you end up buying.