Xeon Owners Club

[phill]

Thanks all, I'm going to try and get it cleaned off tonight and then hopefully give it a test tomorrow Let it dry out a bit as I'm guessing I'll have to spray quite a bit in the socket??

 

[bobbybluz]

Thanks all, I'm going to try and get it cleaned off tonight and then hopefully give it a test tomorrow Let it dry out a bit as I'm guessing I'll have to spray quite a bit in the socket??

I try to avoid spraying things into LGA sockets. Brake Cleaner can melt some plastics (I was an auto mechanic for years) and other spray cleaners leave a residue. I use an extremely soft old toothbrush with the tip dipped in 90% isopropyl alcohol and VERY GENTLY use the tip to brush away the paste. The first pass usually softens it and the second removes it. You barely have to touch it to get it off once it's softened.

 

[Edwired]

I try to avoid spraying things into LGA sockets. Brake Cleaner can melt some plastics (I was an auto mechanic for years) and other spray cleaners leave a residue. I use an extremely soft old toothbrush with the tip dipped in 90% isopropyl alcohol and VERY GENTLY use the tip to brush away the paste. The first pass usually softens it and the second removes it. You barely have to touch it to get it off once it's softened.

I sprayed alot of motherboards and sockets never had any issues since as i used WD-40 Specialist Fast Drying Contact Cleaner abit pricey for one but brake cleaner works the same way abit cheaper. I spray in quick burst method as it only need a small amount to clear it off and dab it abit it with lintfree cloth to get rid of the excess and let it dry out for a day

 

[Edwired]

I decided to revert the bios back to stock and reset the watt meter plug so i can find out how much power is been consumed at idle it bouncing between 120.1w to 126.8w (OC 144.3w to 146.7w) when running cinebench r20 which peaked at about 177.8 watt so judging with the last overclock i used it peaked at 265.6 watt which uses up to about 87.8w more that just for the cpu only. Quite impressive

 

[phill]

Well guys, it seems I was lucky enough to just require a small paint brush and a bit of luck, as whatever was in that socket on the Rampage 3, came out without any issues at all. I've attached a few pictures to my adventures today, it's been somewhat interesting and frustrating at the same time... Pictures are a 1000 words so they say, so I'm going to shut up now and just show you these (Apologies in advance but I put them as thumbnails as there's shall I say, more than one or two....)

I can see something in that socket....



Whatever it was, it's gone now!!



And here we go to the test bench setup...

Xeon X5650
6 x 2GB G Skill 2133MHz DDR3 (at stock timings, no overclock and not all sticks at once)
R7 240 GPU for display only
EVGA P2 850W PSU



And now for some weirdness.....



Does anyone else get these problems because I'm just curious if anyone thinks it's the CPU not quite having a decent contact on the pins/pads underneath or if it's possibly the memory slots or if it's possibly both??

When I first tried it, I put in 3 sticks of 2GB, simple test make sure it boots. 2 out of the 3 slots seemed to function correctly. So after a one by one approach, I got the 3 sticks showing.
Now when I put in one more stick and then another and another, it worked fine up until the last unoccupied slot, to which the RAM amount then went to 6GB. After a few goes again with re-sitting the RAM and even making sure the CPU sat correctly, I was able to get 12GB showing...

Does anyone else get an issue like or similar to this at all? I'm just curious as I'd like to know if it's something I'm doing or if it's just the age of the hardware as my Gigabyte X58-UD9 had the same issue... Got it working with 6 sticks of RAM eventually but it seemed to be a big of an effort to do so......

Penny for anyone's thoughts please

@Edwired It's amazing how much a bit of an overclock can make something go from being quite efficient to not so much at all Glad that unit is coming in handy!!

 

[bobbybluz]

Fine job! I've got an Asus X99 Deluxe somebody gave me because he thought RAM slot A1 was dead. I cleaned it out, put a RAM stick in it a few times until it finally showed up in BIOS then left it alone and put the rest of the RAM in. I haven't had any of the memory out in over 5 years now. If it works don't touch it.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Well guys, it seems I was lucky enough to just require a small paint brush and a bit of luck, as whatever was in that socket on the Rampage 3, came out without any issues at all. I've attached a few pictures to my adventures today, it's been somewhat interesting and frustrating at the same time... Pictures are a 1000 words so they say, so I'm going to shut up now and just show you these (Apologies in advance but I put them as thumbnails as there's shall I say, more than one or two....)

I can see something in that socket....

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Whatever it was, it's gone now!!

View attachment 172753

And here we go to the test bench setup...

Xeon X5650
6 x 2GB G Skill 2133MHz DDR3 (at stock timings, no overclock and not all sticks at once)
R7 240 GPU for display only
EVGA P2 850W PSU

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And now for some weirdness.....

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Does anyone else get these problems because I'm just curious if anyone thinks it's the CPU not quite having a decent contact on the pins/pads underneath or if it's possibly the memory slots or if it's possibly both??

When I first tried it, I put in 3 sticks of 2GB, simple test make sure it boots. 2 out of the 3 slots seemed to function correctly. So after a one by one approach, I got the 3 sticks showing.
Now when I put in one more stick and then another and another, it worked fine up until the last unoccupied slot, to which the RAM amount then went to 6GB. After a few goes again with re-sitting the RAM and even making sure the CPU sat correctly, I was able to get 12GB showing...

Does anyone else get an issue like or similar to this at all? I'm just curious as I'd like to know if it's something I'm doing or if it's just the age of the hardware as my Gigabyte X58-UD9 had the same issue... Got it working with 6 sticks of RAM eventually but it seemed to be a big of an effort to do so......

Penny for anyone's thoughts please

@Edwired It's amazing how much a bit of an overclock can make something go from being quite efficient to not so much at all Glad that unit is coming in handy!!

My SR-2 does the same crap. Gotta fiddle to get all slots shown. None of my other X58 boards do it. Plug and play on those.

 

[phill]

My SR-2 does the same crap. Gotta fiddle to get all slots shown. None of my other X58 boards do it. Plug and play on those.

Its so strange as to why it happens but I did wonder if a change of CPU would make any difference?? I'm guessing not really...??

 

[Mr Bill]

Great to see it up and running. When I first bought my Alienware PC with the Asus P6T Deluxe V2, I got that CPU fan error, it somehow fixed itself, or maybe me playing around in the bios solved it, is this error common on the X58 boards? Do you plan on leaving in the X5650? I watched a YouTube video where one person OC his X5650 to 4.2 GHz on air, and run it for over a year with no issues. I bought a X5680 on eBay last week, but have not received it yet.

 

[Edwired]

The fix for the ram disappearing is to loosing up the screws on the socket or there's misaligned pins that needs straightening out in the socket. Do check with a camera zoomed in on the socket so you can see where it out of place
I noticed two possible pins missing in the picture

 

[Caring1]

I noticed two possible pins missing in the picture

Looking at other pics online it appears they are left empty for some reason.

 

[Knuckle Buster]

I acquired 2 editing stations that were used on major motion pictures and took the server and 2 docking stations and made a custom home server, gaming computer, coffee table
Supermicro X7DBE-O
2 XEON E5450
MYRICOM 10G-PCIE-8B-2S
DVS CENTAURUS 2 LUCY 4
TRANSFER STATION 9050021X1
CODEX DIGITAL SAS BOARDS
2008. DC-KCL 2810
2009 CTR2 P09050011X1
REMOVABLE DOCK P09040121X3 WITH T800 AND 4 LAPTOP 500 gig Western Digital Caviar Black Hdd
Main storage 12 Western Digital 2tb Cavair Black for 24 to.
OS Linux, Red Hat, Fedura

I acquired 2 editing stations that were used on major motion pictures and took the server and 2 docking stations and made a custom home server, gaming computer, coffee table
Supermicro X7DBE-O
2 XEON E5450
MYRICOM 10G-PCIE-8B-2S
DVS CENTAURUS 2 LUCY 4
TRANSFER STATION 9050021X1
CODEX DIGITAL SAS BOARDS
2008. DC-KCL 2810
2009 CTR2 P09050011X1
REMOVABLE DOCK P09040121X3 WITH T800 AND 4 LAPTOP 500 gig Western Digital Caviar Black Hdd
Main storage 12 Western Digital 2tb Cavair Black for 24 to.
OS Linux, Red Hat, Fedura

I do have question about plugging in 13 hard drives. The transfer stations used a portable bay sas card that the t-800 plugged into and it had 4 sata cables coming out that went to 1 of a stack of 4 sas chassis boards the next board had 4 sata cables 3 went to 3 western digital caviar black 2 tb hard drives and the 4th.went to a LTO 5 tape drive next board went.to 3 more Western Digital drives and 4th another LTO Drive
And the last board 4 sata went.to another removable t-800 drive.. seeing as I have my drives in stacks of 4 I thought I could plug 4 into 1 card, 4 into the 2nd card, and 4 into the 3rd card and then all 3 cards would plug into the sas.board just like it did.in the transfer station.. that way I would only have to run 1 cable from the sas board to the mother board keeping my build extremely even unbelievably clean wire wise.. do I have a chance of this worki

 

[bobbybluz]

I finally got a chance yesterday to compare my i7 5960X and E5 2683 V4 recoding a 500Mb video file from .avi to .mp4. Both rigs are X99 platforms and running DDR4 at 2400 speed. Win 10 Enterprise LTSC operating systems on NVMe drives and identical cooling. I didn't time them but the 2683 V4 was done a lot faster and the CPU never went above 70 degrees F, the 5960X hit 139 degrees F. I opened the device manager on the 2683 V4 and it was fun seeing 32 cores in use (16 w/hyperthreading). I used Sound Forge Pro 14.0 for the recoding and file editing (removing background noise and increasing the volume level).

 

[Mr.Scott]

Its so strange as to why it happens but I did wonder if a change of CPU would make any difference?? I'm guessing not really...??

Didn't make any difference on mine.

 

[phill]

I finally got a chance yesterday to compare my i7 5960X and E5 2683 V4 recoding a 500Mb video file from .avi to .mp4. Both rigs are X99 platforms and running DDR4 at 2400 speed. Win 10 Enterprise LTSC operating systems on NVMe drives and identical cooling. I didn't time them but the 2683 V4 was done a lot faster and the CPU never went above 70 degrees F, the 5960X hit 139 degrees F. I opened the device manager on the 2683 V4 and it was fun seeing 32 cores in use (16 w/hyperthreading). I used Sound Forge Pro 14.0 for the recoding and file editing (removing background noise and increasing the volume level).

I have noticed that the Xeon's can be very cool running CPUs... Scary in some ways for how many cores they can have.. My 5960X spent its last few years crunching for our TPU WCG team and a little light gaming.. Was under water and with the clock speed and vcore I was running, it rarely saw over 40C in the winter months... Summer, up to 60C I saw...

Didn't make any difference on mine.

I had my doubts @Mr.Scott that a change of CPU would change anything at all... Looks like I could be right with that one...

 

[Dinnercore]

Does anyone else get an issue like or similar to this at all? I'm just curious as I'd like to know if it's something I'm doing or if it's just the age of the hardware as my Gigabyte X58-UD9 had the same issue... Got it working with 6 sticks of RAM eventually but it seemed to be a big of an effort to do so......

Penny for anyone's thoughts please

Just like Mr.Scotts SR-2 my SR-2 had the same issue. It was a pain to get all 48GB to show up. I thought I had it figured out by cleaning everything nicely, but even then on every 10th or so boot it lost a single stick. Would often come back on a simple reboot tho.
It tended to be worse when I tried to push overclocks but it seemed pretty random.

Sorry that I can't help you more. I do not think its a socket pin / mounting issue neccessarily. I had a R3X where I tried direct-die cooling with the sockets retention mechanism removed. I had a lot of wonky mounts on that one with bad contact between cooler and die. At no point during these tests I had any RAM drop out.

 

[phill]

Just like Mr.Scotts SR-2 my SR-2 had the same issue. It was a pain to get all 48GB to show up. I thought I had it figured out by cleaning everything nicely, but even then on every 10th or so boot it lost a single stick. Would often come back on a simple reboot tho.
It tended to be worse when I tried to push overclocks but it seemed pretty random.

Sorry that I can't help you more. I do not think its a socket pin / mounting issue neccessarily. I had a R3X where I tried direct-die cooling with the sockets retention mechanism removed. I had a lot of wonky mounts on that one with bad contact between cooler and die. At no point during these tests I had any RAM drop out.

I don't think I've had that many a issue with the SR-2 or not that I remember. I remember it having 48GB of RAM when I bought it and it wasn't helping with the overclock but, 48GB was awesome! I do remember on the EVGA forums that they have been running with 96GB of RAM in them, I mean, wow... I don't think the overclock was as high as it could have been but still, I'm not sure that was the object of the 96GB of RAM in the system....

I've had a mess about with the board again today guys, made sure the socket was clean and that I've switched CPUs and managed to get things working as far as I know. Tomorrow if I have a spare few minutes, I'll take all the RAM out, just add it in stick by stick and see how I get on... Whenever I test any of these boards I buy, making sure the slots work are a definite and it's not the first board I've had second hand that's seemed to have dodgy slots but if it's me screwing it up, then I can go have words with myself

Here's a few more pics anyways



I did take out some RAM from the board and swap some around just to test to see if it made any difference and even with the CPU swap, it all showed up, so hopefully the final test tomorrow will be the take all the RAM out, put it in one by one and see if that works

Thanks guys as always

 

[Edwired]

I don't think I've had that many a issue with the SR-2 or not that I remember. I remember it having 48GB of RAM when I bought it and it wasn't helping with the overclock but, 48GB was awesome! I do remember on the EVGA forums that they have been running with 96GB of RAM in them, I mean, wow... I don't think the overclock was as high as it could have been but still, I'm not sure that was the object of the 96GB of RAM in the system....

I've had a mess about with the board again today guys, made sure the socket was clean and that I've switched CPUs and managed to get things working as far as I know. Tomorrow if I have a spare few minutes, I'll take all the RAM out, just add it in stick by stick and see how I get on... Whenever I test any of these boards I buy, making sure the slots work are a definite and it's not the first board I've had second hand that's seemed to have dodgy slots but if it's me screwing it up, then I can go have words with myself

Here's a few more pics anyways

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I did take out some RAM from the board and swap some around just to test to see if it made any difference and even with the CPU swap, it all showed up, so hopefully the final test tomorrow will be the take all the RAM out, put it in one by one and see if that works

Thanks guys as always

Glad you got it up and running. What was the main cause

 

[Dinnercore]

@phill I'm joining you on the RAM troubleshooting with X58



Picked up this board with an X5670 and 6GB of RAM. Something is wrong with a single RAM channel. It takes a while to train memory on every start-up and when it finally boots it sometimes stops, displays the message 'calculating DRAM size' and then restarts.
When it gets into Windows, the OS can not see all 6GB of ram. Only 4 are available BUT software says I'm running triple channel 6 GB. CPU-Z for example says that and can even read the SPD profile of the 'missing' stick.

I found some sticky residue on top of the RAM-slots and a big spot near the inner slot. I guess someone spilled a drink there. Currently I'm waiting for my cleaner to dry, got my fingers crossed that I can fix it.

 

[bobbybluz]

Somebody has a fully functional (claimed) EVGA X58 FTW3 with an I5 CPU, 16GB RAM and a wireless card for $50 obo on the local Craigslist. Is this a decent X58 mobo and if so which cheap overclockable Xeon would be best in it?

 

[Edwired]

Give it a lick and see what the taste like so you know what drink was spilled

$50 sounds like a broken board if i were you i would ask the seller to show pictures and videos as it functioning if no i would walk away from it

 

[lexluthermiester]

Somebody has a fully functional (claimed) EVGA X58 FTW3 with an I5 CPU

That is not possible. There were no i5 CPU's made for 1366, not even engineering samples. It was purely a premium platform. i5's were made on the 1156 socket for that gen. It's got to be an i7.

 

[bobbybluz]

I'll look and see if it's still around in a few days. Poster said he was using it as a media server. If I can get it for $35 and everything works I'll add it to my collection.

 

[Mr Bill]

@phill I'm joining you on the RAM troubleshooting with X58 Picked up this board with an X5670 and 6GB of RAM. Something is wrong with a single RAM channel. It takes a while to train memory on every start-up and when it finally boots it sometimes stops, displays the message 'calculating DRAM size' and then restarts.
When it gets into Windows, the OS can not see all 6GB of ram. Only 4 are available BUT software says I'm running triple channel 6 GB. CPU-Z for example says that and can even read the SPD profile of the 'missing' stick.

I just picked up a X5670 today, installed on this board "Asus P6T Deluxe V2" with no issues, have it running at 4.0 GHz @40° temps, with 28 Gig of ram. It made a LOT of difference from the i7 920, and I was running the i7 @ 3.78 GHz. I've been running it for over 4 hrs. now, just surfing the web, and watching some YouTube video's, temps still @40° hopefully it's good to go.

 

[phill]

Glad you got it up and running. What was the main cause

I've simply no clue and you can quote me!!

I'll have another look at it when time or the Mrs's allows, but I've had it with a few X58 boards that they just appear to have delicate memory slots.. I don't believe there's any damage to the board but it does seem odd to me that I could have pushed down on the RAM and got that channel/stick working and then when I went from 4 sticks to 5 sticks then to 6 sticks, it would go from 8GB to 10GB back to 6GB... Blows my little mind, I can't deal with things like that!!

@phill I'm joining you on the RAM troubleshooting with X58



Picked up this board with an X5670 and 6GB of RAM. Something is wrong with a single RAM channel. It takes a while to train memory on every start-up and when it finally boots it sometimes stops, displays the message 'calculating DRAM size' and then restarts.
When it gets into Windows, the OS can not see all 6GB of ram. Only 4 are available BUT software says I'm running triple channel 6 GB. CPU-Z for example says that and can even read the SPD profile of the 'missing' stick.

I found some sticky residue on top of the RAM-slots and a big spot near the inner slot. I guess someone spilled a drink there. Currently I'm waiting for my cleaner to dry, got my fingers crossed that I can fix it.

It's a pain sometimes!! I'd just check on the bios and see if it reports it as I found if it's not there, it usually doesn't show up anywhere to be honest... Although, I'm sure there'll be something to tell me otherwise! lol

Lovely board there mate, I hope you can get it working Oh, try some different RAM as that might be faulty but I'm sure your there already