Godfall System Requirements List 12 GB VRAM for 4K and Ultra HD Textures

[FinneousPJ]

Ashes and Strange Brigade are games that literally nobody plays. You're one of the maybe 10 per week that launches Strange brigade.

I don't think you know what "literally [nobody]" means.

 

[Fluffmeister]

This does seem a rather convenient amount of VRAM required, let's see how the benches play out.

You'll probably have to play spot the difference with the textures anyway.

 

[kayjay010101]

I don't think you know what "literally [nobody]" means.

Figuratively literally

 

[bug]

You'll probably have to play spot the difference with the textures anyway.

My thoughts exactly. While RPGs are the better fit for high-res textures (due to them being slower paced), it takes a Photoshop diff to spot differences between high- and ultra- textures. Ultra is usually about lossless compression (or no compression at all, in some cases), but lossy compression it already built to discard detail the human eye can't easily spot first.

I'm more curious about this game being good or not sooner than if it will bring a 3080 to its knees.

 

[Andyr]

It's not out yet. When it is, we'll have the chance to see whether it really needs a 3090 to be playable, or if the specs are nonsense.

 

[Chrispy_]

So much salt was spilled on these forums with people agressively defending Nividia's controversial option to launch a flagship with only 10GB.

I was honestly not expecting 10GB to be inadequate this year, my prediction was at some point in the next 12 months but I'm not really surprised as I ran out of VRAM and was forced to dial back settings on my RTX2060 already (Doom Eternal, Q1 2020).

 

[Vayra86]

So much salt was spilled on these forums with people agressively defending Nividia's controversial option to launch a flagship with only 10GB.

I was honestly not expecting 10GB to be inadequate this year, my prediction was at some point in the next 12 months but I'm not really surprised as I ran out of VRAM and was forced to dial back settings on my RTX2060 already (Doom Eternal, Q1 2020).

Hehe look at this topic. Its either not true or it doesn't exist, but in some people's minds its just not fathomable that games can ask upwards of 10GB now that Nvidia announced a 3080 with said amount.

Somehow oblivious to the fact the same company has been having 11GB cards for quite a while now in its top end offerings. Somehow oblivious to the fact PCs tend to be able to push higher details, and a 3080 most certainly, than the upcoming consoles that already carry more than 10GB reserved for just VRAM.

This is going to be fun, because I find myself at the opposite side of that fence. Objectively, a 3080 with just 10GB was a shit balance, and this underlines it. That fact won't change no matter how many apologists jump into the gap. The competitor still does control the console hardware and obviously will push devs to use the full amount because 'why not'. Devs happily accepted RTX money bags, and they will happily accept Texture money bags too, and rightly so.

The link to Hairworks was made... as much as I defended Nvidia back then for taking that advantage when the competitor dropped the ball, and as much as I defend Nvidia for its GameWorks as well because honestly, its an industry effort anyone can do... I defend AMD now for pushing high VRAM requirements because obviously devs will use it to bring higher fidelity. Whether you want or need that, is a similar case to Hairworks. But I dare say textures are a little bit of a bigger deal than hair physics. What's more.... Hairworks can simply be turned off. You don't turn off textures. So reviews will measure cards by that same texture amount - not a good sign for the leather jacket.

Imagine buying a 3080 and having to consider a texture quality reduction straight from the get-go. As it is now, Godfall might even release before these GPUs are delivered proper. Yep. I've bought a few boxes worth of popcorn.

Sorry guys... but really. The cognitive dissonance is pretty strong here and it doesn't look good, nor objective. Oh yeah. The eternal 'meh but allocated doesn't mean used' even passed us by, even though we KNOW games stutter when VRAM is taxed. Puzzling, indeed. This is a 700+ dollar, top end card we're speaking of. Not some shitty x60... wake the hell up already. Wouldn't you want a few years going forward with actual VRAM headroom instead of having to wonder whether each release will exceed what you've got? I know I would.


Just one little thought on top here...
'If it looks too good to be true, it usually is'.
Remember our first response to the perf/dollar of the 3080 I think it fits well. Nvidia wanted to pre-empt these PR statements and get you pre ordering and mindshare invested in their Ampere card. Seems pretty clear now, especially with the constant rumors of higher capacity cards around the corner. But, do keep living in denial, buy that 3080 and let us know how it worked out. It won't be my loss...

Note that my only motive is that of a customer finding the best deal of the current gen. Nothing else. I couldn't give a rat's behind about what color the card is, what jacket the CEO wears or whether it has tits or not.

 

[Tomgang]

Glad I dit not get at rtx 3080. I all ready knew before this that 10 gb vram will make 3080 a bit obsolete before time.

Also now with rumors of rtx 3080 ti and if amd performance claims on big Navi holds true. The right decision was to wait.

Those who got a overpriced rtx 3080 from a scalper paying twice or 3 times the retail price, must be pissed now.

 

[Vayra86]

Those who got a overpriced rtx 3080 from a scalper paying twice or 3 times the retail price, are getting what they deserved.

FTFY

Price of early adopting has never been so high, it seems.

 

[bug]

Hehe look at this topic. Its either not true or it doesn't exist, but in some people's minds its just not fathomable that games can ask upwards of 10GB now that Nvidia announced a 3080 with said amount.

Games can ask for whatever they want, what is unfathomable is games becoming unplayable on a 3080 in the next 3-4 years.
PC games are meant to be playable on mid-range cards and since current midrange costs ~$350, games won't even target that.

I mean, anecdotal evidence aside, we have a lot of game reviews here on TPU that show 10GB is plenty. And that many games allocate VRAM, but will run with no performance penalty on cards that less than that.

 

[BoboOOZ]

So much salt was spilled on these forums with people agressively defending Nividia's controversial option to launch a flagship with only 10GB.

I was honestly not expecting 10GB to be inadequate this year, my prediction was at some point in the next 12 months but I'm not really surprised as I ran out of VRAM and was forced to dial back settings on my RTX2060 already (Doom Eternal, Q1 2020).

Actually, it seems that in Battlefield V with 4k ultra + RTX+DLSS it needs more than 10GB already, hence the demo from the Digital Foundry weirdly being without RTX on...

But the discussion will soon be cut by Nvidia themselves, I think, we'll see a higher VRAM model very soon.

 

[Tomgang]

FTFY

Price of early adopting has never been so high, it seems.

It seems there are people ready paying what ever overpriced a thing is, to get the newest first. But yeah, they got what they deserve to be so stupid and support these annoying scalpers.

 

[Zach_01]

I've been saying this for a while... A flagship GPU shouldn't have been released with 10GB of VRAM even if it's sufficient today. Previous Gen has 11GB... Or... maybe 3080 10GB is not the real flagship but 3090 is...? Or maybe the 20GB was going to be?
I mean... Jensen really messed up this launch for good. From bad manufacturing to misleading marketing.
Probably they had those 16/20GB variants ready to be announced right after RDNA2 but the 6000series performance screw their plans. Now they're saying about a 3080Ti with (?)12GB because now they cant charge over 1000~1100$?

Yes probably 3080 10GB with its high speed memory, high bandwidth and nVidia's compression algorithm will do fine even with VRAM pool filled, but they should have release it with at least 12GB (full 1 side PCB) and call it a day.
Instead they wanted more milk with a 20GB (?1200~1300$?) that now becomes a 12GB (?1000~1100$?). We will see...

 

[Chrispy_]

It seems there are people ready paying what ever overpriced a thing is, to get the newest first. But yeah, they got what they deserve to be so stupid and support these annoying scalpers.

Indeed. Case in point: The lines of people queueing overnight to get the latest iPhone when the one they paid a thousand bucks for 12 months ago is still better than 95% of the phones on the market and will do what they need without any issues for another 3 years or so.

Games can ask for whatever they want, what is unfathomable is games becoming unplayable on a 3080 in the next 3-4 years.
PC games are meant to be playable on mid-range cards and since current midrange costs ~$350, games won't even target that.

I mean, anecdotal evidence aside, we have a lot of game reviews here on TPU that show 10GB is plenty. And that many games allocate VRAM, but will run with no performance penalty on cards that less than that.

Well yeah, Doom Eternal still looked pretty good on high settings instead of Ultra. I wasn't salty about it because I bought the baby xx60 card. I'd definitely be salty, and rightfully so if the "flagship" that cost me $700 wasn't up to snuff though.

For what it's worth, Doom Eternal runs okay on Intel IGPs now but you get the quality you pay for. I feel that people paying top dollar for a card should expect it to run not just today's AAA games at top dollar settings, but also all the AAA games launched between now and the next generation of GPUs without having to compromise. If they wanted compromise, they'd get the cheaper card and accept the lower graphics settings. It's certainly going to sting when the $700 card they were scalped $1100 for cannot run what the $579 RX 6800 can, and then the RTX 3070 16GB edition comes out at half what you paid to rub salt in the wound....

 

[dicktracy]

I hope Lisa pays well to their foot soldiers spread their faith because there’s no one out there willing to pay $1000 for an AMD card.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nah, 10GB is enough!

That escalated quickly then.

To be fair, this does limit how well the game can run for users who have cards that are literally brand and are considered high-end offerings. Pushing the limits can be frustrating(first release of Crysis or Quake4 anyone?), but this is going to irritate people more now as the public is far more whiny than in years past..

You are a lost cause dude but hey three times the charm. You don't even know what you did wrong do you?
Your arguments (you can't even call it that way) are just childish. Conversation with you has absolutely no merit.

Why are you making it personal? No one was insulting you. Come on now...

 

[Ashtr1x]

Yeah, sure this garbage looking trash game needs more VRAM than lets see - DOOM Eternal, Metro Exodus, Control, Red Dead Redemption 2, COD Black Ops, COD MW which the 3080 can run without any issues on 4K and the RT titles included or even 2080Ti for that matter, cool story trashbox publisher and garbage Always OL trash game with generic combat system. But hey since AMD RDNA2 is released and it has 16GB VRAM and consoles having 16GB VRAM suddenly PC HW with the 3080 is outdated. Very good !!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Price of early adopting has never been so high, it seems.

Have we already forgotten the RTX2000 prices?

 

[Chrispy_]

I hope Lisa pays well to their foot soldiers spread their faith because there’s no one out there willing to pay $1000 for an AMD card.

I think the RX 6900 is a publicity stunt that exists solely so that AMD can say their $1000 card matches Nvidia's $1500 card.

Anyone with two braincells can see that the $650 6800XT is damn near an identical product for a huge discount; Who cares if it's fractionally slower? It's like the 3090 itself is a dumb product because the 3080 is almost as good for less than half the price.

 

[Deleted member 190774]

I'm so glad I didn't punt for a 3080 - not that I could have actually got one, BUT if I had, how gut-wrenching would it be to find out that it's 10GB of RAM isn't enough, and that NVidia would drop a new flagship model Ti just around the corner...

 

[mechtech]

"will require 12 GB VRAM for maxed-out settings at 4K resolution. "

Solution - turn down some settings.

Problem solved.

I think the RX 6900 is a publicity stunt that exists solely so that AMD can say their $1000 card matches Nvidia's $1500 card.

Anyone with two braincells can see that the $650 6800XT is damn near an identical product for a huge discount; Who cares if it's fractionally slower? It's like the 3090 itself is a dumb product because the 3080 is almost as good for less than half the price.

Better yet, the kids who buy these with a 60Hz screen lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

Solution - turn down some settings.

Problem solved.

You seem to be missing the point of why some people have a problem with this.

 

[mechtech]

I hope Lisa pays well to their foot soldiers spread their faith because there’s no one out there willing to pay $1000 for an AMD card.

Well if Nvidia fanbois are willing to pay 3k for an nvidia card, there must be someone willing to pay 1k for an AMD card.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm so glad I didn't punt for a 3080 - not that I could have actually got one, BUT if I had, how gut-wrenching would it be to find out that it's 10GB of RAM isn't enough, and that NVidia would drop a new flagship model Ti just around the corner...

To be fair, this is one game, most will not have that limitation.

Well if Nvidia fanbois are willing to pay 3k for an nvidia card

No NVidia costs that much. Even the last gen RTX Titan was $2500. Where are you getting $3k?

 

[mechtech]

You seem to be missing the point of why some people have a problem with this.

Nah, not missing the point. Some people have a problem if their ice cream is too hard also. Now if people are worried about 1 game and have a 4k screen, then wait for a review before making a purchase.

To be fair, this is one game, most will not have that limitation.


No NVidia costs that much. Even the last gen RTX Titan was $2500. Where are you getting $3k?

ebay/scalpers

Also for retailers/etailers I typically think in CND$, so my bad there for not differentiating.
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