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3090 vs 2080 Ti expected performance difference?

Doom Eternal is not all that demanding unless you manage some form of exquisite way of cranking settings tbh. It's in the nature of the ID Tech engine, the game can be ran on a potato yet perform well while looking good.

Crysis remastered, I don't know. It's probably demanding but not just because of the upgraded textures, but also because of the broken nature of the game itself not scaling all that properly / game related bugs.
Wuattt?!?!?
How is scaling issue & game related bugs demanding in Crysis?
Doom Eternal is not all that demanding unless you manage some form of exquisite way of cranking settings tbh. It's in the nature of the ID Tech engine, the game can be ran on a potato yet perform well while looking good.
Of course Doom Eternal can run on a potato if the user sets the graphical presets to the lowest.
And "manage some form of exquisite way of cranking settings" A.K.A. "changing the settings to ultra" is the reason why Doom Eternal is demanding.
Considering this is the first game to use idTech 7, how would you know about the nature of an upgraded game engine?
 
Doom Eternal is not all that demanding unless you manage some form of exquisite way of cranking settings tbh. It's in the nature of the ID Tech engine, the game can be ran on a potato yet perform well while looking good.

Crysis remastered, I don't know. It's probably demanding but not just because of the upgraded textures, but also because of the broken nature of the game itself not scaling all that properly / game related bugs. Personally not willing to shell out cash for that, especially on the Epic launcher.

Superposition is good, it can be demanding but it's an older benchmark after all. You could try Flight Sim but it's just overly hard to run at your desired settings. It is reluctant to stability from my observation. I had some crashes in Ghostrunner too, which is also demanding when you crank RTX. I heard the RTX implementation there is eh, though.
i registered my card to Gigabyte, and started an e-mail with Gigabyte support earlier today in parallel with all my troubleshooting.

honestly i knew i'm due for a new PSU as this Corsair AX1200 is 10 years old.

considering getting a new PSU like the Corsair HX1200 Plat to see if it helps anything
 
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Wuattt?!?!?
How is scaling issue & game related bugs demanding in Crysis?

Of course Doom Eternal can run on a potato if the user sets the graphical presets to the lowest.
And "manage some form of exquisite way of cranking settings" A.K.A. "changing the settings to ultra" is the reason why Doom Eternal is demanding.
Considering this is the first game to use idTech 7, how would you know about the nature of an upgraded game engine?

Crysis in itself does not really scale amazingly well with higher end gear. Like, you used to get a much better card but it only averaged you 5 FPS more there. I might be wrong, but I'm looking at it from a past perspective. I mean sure, a modern GPU can rock the living heck out of Crysis. I haven't tried the Remastered version myself so like I tried to say, I don't have first hand experience there.

I did run Eternal at some very high settings actually, I'm not saying it's not demanding but it certainly isn't THE demanding title. There was a video review where the OP's card got some 200 FPS there... on 4k or something. Yes, about maxed out or whatever. That's why I said it that way.

Don't get the HX1200, if you want to overkill - I'd suggest one of the Phanteks Revolt / Asus ROG with digital control or something. HX1200 is an older design, I had one of those. Mine was digital, but you have more sensible choices now.
 
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Crysis in itself does not really scale amazingly well with higher end gear. Like, you used to get a much better card but it only averaged you 5 FPS more there. I might be wrong, but I'm looking at it from a past perspective. I mean sure, a modern GPU can rock the living heck out of Crysis. I haven't tried the Remastered version myself so like I tried to say, I don't have first hand experience there.

I did run Eternal at some very high settings actually, I'm not saying it's not demanding but it certainly isn't THE demanding title. There was a video review where the OP's card got some 200 FPS there... on 4k or something. Yes, about maxed out or whatever. That's why I said it that way.

Don't get the HX1200, if you want to overkill - I'd suggest one of the Phanteks Revolt / Asus ROG with digital control or something. HX1200 is an older design, I had one of those. Mine was digital, but you have more sensible choices now.
Got it... :peace:

WTF!?! Asus ROG also sells their own brand of PSU? I didn't know that... Thanks for the info...

I would assume that 1200 is also the wattage number? Then I also agree with @X71200 that it's overkill. The sweet spot is 750-850 Watts with at least a 80+ bronze rating. Of course this also depends if OP is a heavy prosumer user.
 
Yeah, I got myself a Strix 550 for some other PC, price wasn't too bad. They're basically upgraded Seasonic designs, Phanteks are too.

I'd agree that he doesn't really need more than 850W if his intend is just running lower settings like he mostly have mentioned to do. If he wants to overkill the 850, in that case... maybe:

 
Crysis in itself does not really scale amazingly well with higher end gear. Like, you used to get a much better card but it only averaged you 5 FPS more there. I might be wrong, but I'm looking at it from a past perspective. I mean sure, a modern GPU can rock the living heck out of Crysis. I haven't tried the Remastered version myself so like I tried to say, I don't have first hand experience there.

I did run Eternal at some very high settings actually, I'm not saying it's not demanding but it certainly isn't THE demanding title. There was a video review where the OP's card got some 200 FPS there... on 4k or something. Yes, about maxed out or whatever. That's why I said it that way.

Don't get the HX1200, if you want to overkill - I'd suggest one of the Phanteks Revolt / Asus ROG with digital control or something. HX1200 is an older design, I had one of those. Mine was digital, but you have more sensible choices now.

so far Watch Dogs: Legion, Red Dead Redemption 2, and also The Outer Worlds are stable at Max settings w/o FPS Limits...

what's a really hardcore game that'll bring the entire rig to it's knees?

wish i knew why GTA V was a problem for me

Yeah, I got myself a Strix 550 for some other PC, price wasn't too bad. They're basically upgraded Seasonic designs, Phanteks are too.

I'd agree that he doesn't really need more than 850W if his intend is just running lower settings like he mostly have mentioned to do. If he wants to overkill the 850, in that case... maybe:

TY regading the Corsair AX850 Ti, seems really like maybe a good idea.

Also what about this one? Saw it TPU's latest review:

Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 850 W
 
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What is your avg fps in Watch Dogs with rtx and dlss ultra perf? 1440p. Thx.
 
The Seasonic doesn't seem like it's in stock at a price worth buying, so I'd go with the Corsair in that case. If you don't really want Titanium, there is also the Phanteks Revolt 1000 for $220 which is a Platinum Seasonic unit.

As for the games, your best bet might be MS Flight Simulator. I kinda like the game personally as well, wasn't expecting lots out of it... though flying around the Bing generated maps is fun - even at lower framerates.
 
The Seasonic doesn't seem like it's in stock at a price worth buying, so I'd go with the Corsair in that case. If you don't really want Titanium, there is also the Phanteks Revolt 1000 for $220 which is a Platinum Seasonic unit.

As for the games, your best bet might be MS Flight Simulator. I kinda like the game personally as well, wasn't expecting lots out of it... though flying around the Bing generated maps is fun - even at lower framerates.

(might be those SP-Caps, and the flattened boost curve from the drivers not capturing all edge cases completely 100%?)

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[8:29 PM]
erek:
apparently all this time i had 3DMark Advanced... going to try some more benchmarks
no response from Gigabyte Support yet
i was able to get GTA V acceptable 4K@60... this is my desired end goal which in some spots gives me a 50% gain over other video cards cause they'd drop to 30 fps in certain high foilage areas
still so far, GTA V is the only game giving issues without a FPS Limit
everything else even with 105+ power limits was stable
[8:27 PM]erek: man it's weird so i did 105% power limit, and everything but GTA V was stable[8:28 PM]Non-Chill Filtered: it sounds like a driver bug in gta5[8:28 PM]erek: GTA V isn't even stable at stock[8:28 PM]Non-Chill Filtered: kinda sad you have an issue with your favorite game hmmmm[8:28 PM]erek: i doubt it's a driver bug, wonder if it's related to that driver fix they did to stop it from boosting too abruptly some PSUs can't react fast enough or something?
---do i understand the boosting issue with the 30 series correctly? it was boosting hard and some PSUs can't handle the spike quick enough?
nvidia released a driver update to address it?

[8:33 PM]
Forge :
Yes and no. It's the decoupling caps on the GPU that can't handle it. There are supposed to be 5 large caps and a cluster of six tiny ones. Some OEMs went with six larger caps to cut costs, left not enough pull-ups on the VCC.

[8:34 PM]
erek:
oh? i thought they dismissed those caps as being the culprit and everyone accepted it as good with the driver update
i was wondering if my card is one of those :(

[8:45 PM]
Forge :
Then why did all the OEMs state that it was a problem?
NVIDIA AIC Partners Clarify RTX 3080/3090 Crash to Desktop Issues, Capacitor Choices
(UPDATE 28SEPT 16H31 GMT: Updated the MSI section with changes in the RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio store page).



Compounding the limited availability with the crash to desktop issues users have been experiencing with NVIDIA's recent RTX 3080/3090 graphics cards have led to rivers of digital ink being ru...
https://www.techpowerup.com/272676/...090-crash-to-desktop-issues-capacitor-choices

[8:46 PM]
erek:
i see
did the driver help enough or no, seems there'd be a response in terms of reoslving the hardware

[8:46 PM]
Forge :
Seems like it. Nvidia flattened out the Boost curve to avoid problems.
Took away some performance to ensure stability.

[8:47 PM]
erek:
hurt even their own FEs?
the way i'm seeing things, it's like my card has that one edge case with GTA V where it's causing that GPU Reset

[8:49 PM]
Forge :
Only the 3080 FEs were affected.

[8:53 PM]
erek:
found my possible answer: here's the Eagle, which is almost the same as far as i understand it... the bios is different, and the cooler,"The Gigabyte board appears to use a 15-phase power delivery system for the GPU, with three additional phases used for other elements. The RAM comes from Micron of course, it's currently the only manufacturer of GDDR6X memory, and is rated for 21Gbps, though like other 3090 cards it's only clocked at 19.5Gbps. Also of note is that behind the GPU are six SP-Caps, with no MLCC blocks. We experienced quite a bit of instability on the Gigabyte card with the launch drivers, but thankfully that was cleared up with the 456.55 and later drivers."
 
What makes you think the caps on the back of the GPU core are the culprit? Some old guy claiming he's an electrician, has never had an Ampere GPU to test with the needed gear, who has also had a backstory of pulling info out of thin air? Also, not all OEMs agreed with this. Some of them said yes, others said no. I have never seen scope shots regarding this. The person you chatted to, doesn't know what he's talking about either. TPU news showed which OEMs said yes and which ones said no to that.
 
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