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Sorry, the review result is somewhat weird.
LOL, intel fans seem infuriated. :roll:
 
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Sorry, the review result is somewhat weird.
LOL, intel fans seem infuriated. :roll:

I just read another review, and Anandtech's numbers seem quite different. At 720p they are claiming massive wins for the new Ryzen CPUs, so it will be interesting to find out why. Also 2080 ti.
 
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So basically a 4K gamer would be quite stupid to get this CPU as a 2600X costing less than half will have 99.5% of the performance. Before overclocking it.

you can get almost double the frame rate today in some games, Ryzen 5000 vs the 2600, go do more research, and there will be more cases as GPUs get faster over the next few years


the borderlands 3 numbers for 1 percent low frame rate are also insane, a MASSIVE improvement
 
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If 5600X were $250, AMD would have a clean sweep. It's not $250, it's not available yet, and I'd bet when it is available it'll be closer to $350 than $300 for several months.

That makes it compete with the $300 10700 and $350 10700K. Factor in a 10-20% IPC jump with Rocket Lake in March, along with a 10700K being able to get 5%+ via easy overclocking (the Zen 3 doesn't OC any better than a non-K Intel chip can via BCLK), and this being the last AM4 processor so there's no Zen 4 upgrade path. I think the 5600X only viable for someone who plans to upgrade to a 5900X / 5950X later.

That's because AMD has applied their $50+ idiot tax on everything. This idiot Tax started on their X570 mother boards in 2019 and then spread to every where else. At $250 this would be a real mover of. At $300, they can shove it slow... they can shove it hard.

But gerbils will buy anything.

AND REMEMBER... you are going to add tax to this so the price will be a lot more... just saying.

If you are a gamer and you bought your CPU back 2 generations (3 if you count the 1700 and 1800X) you do not need this CPU.
If you are just a main stream person, the same comment applies from above.

The only case that I would buy this CPU is if my computer is broken or its over 4 years old. Well it looks like I'm going to avoid buying any product from AMD until the prices go down.

Good review though.
 
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That's because AMD has applied their $50+ idiot tax on everything. This idiot Tax started on their X570 mother boards in 2019 and then spread to every where else. At $250 this would be a real mover of. At $300, they can shove it slow... they can shove it hard.

But gerbils will buy anything.
They usually buy Intel, and if bringing their price close to Intel's makes their buyers idiots, that's not saying much for those that have been paying much more for Intel for years. ;)
 
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Yep, I feel your pain, it's nowhere near $300 here in South-Africa, more like $395, these people have no shame.

Well... launch day pricing over here is pretty much US MSRP + VAT (27% in Hungary), which equates to about 333EUR here or 379USD.

Putting that 5600X in a terrible spot as value for money goes. :(

3600 nonX - 70000HUF
10600K - 91000HUF
3700X - 107000HUF
10700 nonK - 115000HUF
5600X - 120000HUF
10700K - 131000HUF
 
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Think i will wait for zen4/intel Rocket Lake. still fine with my peasant 9600k@5ghz for now.
 

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Mmmmmm 65W goodness

I wonder what the 5700x will bring, if it has higher boost clocks then it'd be a clear winner for gamers within the 65W envelope

I'm still salty theres only a 2% gain from my 3700x to this at 1440p, so i cant justify the upgrade.
 

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A bit too pricey to be the king of bang for buck gaming. Maybe 5600 non-X would be the new sweet spot.

Depends on where you are at. The king is currently the $200 9700k at Microcenter if you are lucky enough to live by one. Holds it's own next to the 5600x @stock speeds, and can be oc'd. It also has 2 more cores if needed. Total savings is over $100 due to you only need 2666mhz ram, and that could be a better GPU. It's not even close.

If this were $200 like it's predecessor, it would have been interesting decision as the efficiency, and slight gaming lead could come into play.
 
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The 10700 and 10700K both beat the 5600X in games at 1080p by about 3%. If you OC the K, which is trivial, you can win by 5 to 8 %.

On productivity the 10700K beats the 5600X by 3.9%. The 10700K can be had for about $50 more than the 5600X @ $299, assuming you can actually find one for $299. The next up slot in AMDs lineup is the $450 5800X, which would compete with the 10850K and 10900 in price.

The 10700 non K wins at games by ~3%, and loses in productivity by ~7%. However, you can power unlock the 10700 nonK - again trivial to do - and win on both games and productivity. There's nothing you can do to the 5600X to counter that.

So yeah at this particular price point AMD failed. I never said anything about the 10600K, and I won't argue a point I didn't make.
1. Yes, two CPU's that cost more than the 5600X are sometimes faster than the 5600X. Again, the 5600X is slotted between the 10600k & 10700.
2. The 10700k is not a competitor to the 5600X. How many times do we have to go over this? The 10700k is $375 on B&H, Amazon, Newegg & Best Buy as the time of me writing this. Let's say we just go with your "sale" 10700k at $350. That makes the 10700k 18% more expensive than the 5600X. At its current regular price of $375, it's 25% more expensive. Additionally the 5600X doesn't need a cooler, so as a value proposition, you need to add at least another $20, making the full cost of a standard priced $375 10700k, $395 which is a full 31% more expensive than the 5600X. 31% more expensive for ±4% productivity & ±3% 1080p gaming.
3. On the 10700 non-K: 3% is not a win. It's within margin of error between the wide swath of PC games that exist. The TPU 10700 non-K review shows that the gains in games of a power unlocked 10700 is 0.2%. The 5600X is clearly faster when CPU limited @720p in some games than the 10700. See Sekiro, Civ6 & Wolfenstein 2.
3(a). Power unlocking is overclocking. 5600X doesn't need an OC. Overclocking the 10700 non-K will also add at least a $20 additional cost for the CPU cooler, reducing it's value. Related to power unlocking: power consumption stuff that the 5600X doesn't need to worry about.

You say at the price point the 5600X is, it failed, but you refuse to talk about the 10600k, its more relevant competitor. The 5600X is slotted between the 10600k & the 10700, and it splits the difference in performance. It also splits the difference in price. It's exactly where it should be. In fact, if you take the cooler cost for the 10600k that you'll need to buy, the price of the 10600k & 5600X are exactly the same(±$5).
 
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Nice review as always. It is a nice CPU but still not a generational leap. At 1440p it is only 2% faster than my 3 year 8700k and they both cost about the same. Would be nice to see how it runs on a 3080 or 3090 to see backing the bottleneck back some would show a difference in fps with the CPU.
It is a generational leap, except over AMD themselves in gaming. Not only have they achieved nearly 20% higher IPC across the board, more in games, on the same node but also done it with minimal changes to zen2 heck even Conroe was on a much better node wrt P4 & had 2x as many cores. Now granted this isn't the same 100% more performance but that was nearly 1.5 decades back & back then such gains were not unheard of.

Yeah you're not getting that with any CPU this gen or the next, at 1440p you're highly GPU bound & you'll need to get 4x Ampere Titans (with perfect scaling) to remove GPU bottlenecks & then see what the best CPU can do. I'm sure you know that's not gonna happen.
 

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is quite weird the difference between power usage here and another reviews. Here the 5600X goes up to 130W while MANY other pages claims a top of 70~75W, what's the cause for this discrepancy ?
 

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is quite weird the difference between power usage here and another reviews. Here it goes up to 130W MANY while many other claims a top of 70~75W, what's the cause for this discrepancy ?
Are they reporting CPU only power or full system power? Hard to imagine a full system, with 65 W CPU pulling 70-75 W only
 

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Are they reporting CPU only power or full system power? Hard to imagine a full system, with 65 W CPU pulling 70-75 W only
Only cpu power I believe. A graph that takes the data quite nicely is here https://www.anandtech.com/show/1621...e-review-5950x-5900x-5800x-and-5700x-tested/8

5600X
 

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Only cpu power I believe.
That uses the sensors inside the CPU to get the power data. The processor uses this sensor to control its power throttling.

I'm physically measuring power at the 220 V wall plug
 
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Here another CPU Powerdraw from AIDA64 stability test .

coolpc-Ryzen-5000-TEMP.jpg


Heres one from Legit Reviews measured from the wall for System Power draw.

power-consumption-load-benchmark-amd-ryzen-5600x-5900x-645x938.jpg
 

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Heres one from Legit Reviews measured from the wall for System Power draw.
Seems to match my results pretty closely
 
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Seems to match my results pretty closely


Yup, from all the reviews I've seen the power draw from CPU and Full System Draw seems to be similar, 75w~ for CPU, and 135-150~w for system. So don't know what Jiwidi was getting at.
 

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Yup, from all the reviews I've seen the power draw from CPU and Full System Draw seems to be similar, 75w~ for CPU, and 135-150~w for system. So don't know what Jiwidi was getting at.
I think he was just surprised by the high difference between full system wall power and chip only
 
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Though in 1440p game it only give 2-3% performance uplift, in general use we sees between 20% increase. Price is a bit sting, but I'm still tempted to "side grade", for a farewell to AM4 platform :D
 
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It's a good CPU, but some people want to see it as a be-all-end-all of CPUs. For games it's fine, but whatever. Any CPU from 8600k upwards will suffice, and if you play at 1440/2160 it really doesn't matter, 6700k will get you within 3% of the performance, so spend your money on a GPU. For me personally. the lack of any iGPU is a show stopper - in a gaming PC I rarely need it, but when I do, i REALLY do, and in a work PC I don't want a dedicated GPU, I much prefer a low power, slim and silent machine.

Where this generation really shines seems to be the productivity oriented high end with the 5900X/5950X.
 
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