NVIDIA Announces Financial Results for Third Quarter Fiscal 2021

[Chomiq]

Why are you so hell bent on TSMC 7nm anyways ? are you gonna buy Ampere had it been more efficient but much more expensive ?

Oh so that's why Nvidia is rumored to be in talks with TSMC. Makes sense.

 

[Vya Domus]

i have underlined what you said and i answered it : you said :
"""""It had little to do with the architecture, AMD was in trouble when they were stuck using GloFo........... """"""
and i answered to what you said by mentioning that Radeon VII and RX5700-series were manufactured at 7nm TSMC ,not by GloFo ....

Bro stop adding a million quotations mark, you are going to give me a seizure if you're logic doesn't kill me before that.

Radeon VII is the same Vega architecture which was designed under GloFo 14nm. Radeon 7 was 23% faster than Vega 64 with less shaders and while using less power proving just how bad GloFo node was.

Best node doesn't mean good GPU

Funny how almost every good GPU also happens to be on a good node. Reality doesn't confirm your ideas.

 

[nguyen]

Bro stop adding a million quotations mark, you are going to give me a seizure if you're logic doesn't kill me before that.

Radeon VII is the same Vega architecture which was designed under GloFo 14nm. Radeon 7 was 23% faster than Vega 64 with less shaders and while using less power proving just how bad GloFo node was.
Funny how almost every good GPU is also on a good node. Reality doesn't confirm your ideas.

Yeah sure like Navi 7nm does anything better than Turing 16/12nm .

Anyways Nvidia is basically printing money as fast as they can with Samsung 8N, no point in discussing the downfall of Samsung 8N.

 

[sith'ari]

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Radeon VII is the same Vega architecture which was designed under GloFo 14nm. Radeon 7 was 23% faster than Vega 64 with less shaders and while using less power proving just how bad GloFo node was.

It was a 7nm , yet it couldn't compete with nVIDIA 's 12nm .
This proves my point when i said that : """"""And with their previous lines , AMD had massive performance issues when compared to nVIDIA 's architectures"""""" ,
and this was what you refuted in your 1st reply towards me.
Can we even understand each other or not ??? look again what was your 1st reply towards me .......

 

[Vya Domus]

Yeah sure like Navi 7nm does anything better than Turing 16/12nm

Yeah, AMD's 250mm^2 chip performing the same as Nvidia's 450mm^2, that's was a pretty bad showing of TSMC 7nm node.

no point in discussing the downfall of Samsung 8N.

You sure love to go back of forth on it though.

It was a 7nm , yet it couldn't compete with nVIDIA 's 12nm .

It was a 300 mm^2 chip and Nvidia was already pushing 750 mm^2 chips with a lot more transitors by the way. Considering the die sizes and transistor budgets AMD's 7nm designs were already superior by then. If you insist to ignore everything besides performance then you can no longer claim an architecture was worse or better because you need comparable transistor budgets and nodes to work that out. Nice try though.

Hello, maybe use your brain before you make these baffling comparisons ?

Can we even understand each other or not ?

Sadly not, I can barely make out what you write. Needs more quotations marks.

 

[sith'ari]

Yeah, AMD's 250mm^2 chip performing the same as Nvidia's 450mm^2, that's was a pretty bad showing of TSMC 7nm node.
It was a 300 mm^2 chip and Nvidia was already pushing 750 mm^2 chips with a lot more transitors by the way. Considering the die sizes and transistor budgets AMD's 7nm designs were already superior by then.

it was AMD's problem that their architecture couldn't scale-up in order for them to create a larger GPU that could compete , although they had a 7nm process advantage , so , just like i said time and time again ,
""""""And with their previous lines , AMD had massive performance issues when compared to nVIDIA 's architectures"""""" .
Apparently we fail to communicate , and i won't waste any more of my time.
Cheers.

 

[Vya Domus]

Apparently we fail to communicate , and i won't waste any more of my time.

We fail to communicate because you don't understand how one goes about in comparing architectures, you need at the very least a similar manufacturing process to isolate differences in terms of architectural efficiency.

although they had a 7nm process advantage

The design was conceived on 14nm and was unchanged it was simply ported to 7nm, of course it wasn't scaled up it was just a node shrink. Genius.

Anyway, cheers. And a lot of """"""""""".

 

[TristanX]

Seems like Ampere is earning Nvidia so much money despite poor availability like many people have claimed ? it's like they are printing money there.

Not. Look at shops, all high-level Turing (2080 TI, 2080(S), 2070(S), 2060 S ) cards are sold-out.

 

[nguyen]

Not. Look at shops, all high-level Turing (2080 TI, 2080(S), 2070(S), 2060 S ) cards are sold-out.

Nvidia discontinued them since July, so yeah, sold out is expected ?

 

[95Viper]

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[medi01]

I wonder when that Q3 is and where the YoY revenue spike comes from.

 

[Ashtr1x]

Faster, probably not by much, but it would have been a lot more power efficient. And yes, they have literally saved a few bucks per chip, you can use a wafer calculator and look up estimated prices for TSMC and Samsung and see for yourself. Of course all of this seems dumb and a mystery to people who don't anything about this, I don't blame you for believing that.

But then what's the alternative ? Say Samsung's node is fucking amazing as you think it is, the massive gap in efficiency between them and AMD must be explained somehow and the only other explanation is that instead of the node being garbage their architecture is garbage.

And by the way the "process made specifically for Nvidia" is actually the high performance version of Samsung's 8nm node, the same way 12nm was just TSMC's 16nm.

I never said Samsung node is amazing, TSMC had lot of funding from Apple alone and they had a huge advantage vs Samsung in terms of yield and experience due to multiple contracts. I know it is an extension of 10nm, it also doesn't use EUV like 7N. I'm talking only on the performance side. Not efficiency. On top the 7N is more denser than 8N, their GPU temp for throttling (13Mhz clock drop) is now at 88C, dunno if going for 7N would even reduce that or not and how it will help the performance considering all the facts that Nvidia thought of including AMD's competition, Supply & Demand of 7N and others.

And I don't know where to calculate the prices for the wafers and all, not much into that but when a quick google search I got these below

"In other words, in the best of cases NVIDIA would be paying $ 5,600 per wafer." - Samsung 8N (Article that mentions this along with more details incl. perf vs nodes)
Here's TSMC price of the 7N wafer cost from the leaker that we all know ~$9300 / wafer.

On top of all this, Nvidia's Ampere never seemed to put insane focus on Rasterization performance considering how they were approaching the HPC side of things since Volta, I think it was apparent since they put out the details and leaks & their changes to the FP32 compute too.

 

[wolf]

For all the stock vs demand shortfalls and inferior node business, it would appear that the revenue has still been excellent. I wonder what ampere refresh will bring next year.

 

[nguyen]

For all the stock vs demand shortfalls and inferior node business, it would appear that the revenue has still been excellent. I wonder what ampere refresh will bring next year.

Well this is like the second coming of the mining craze, any and all GPU will get gobbled up. So whoever produce more cards win this round . Seems like AMD is struggling to produce RX6000 while delivering Ryzen 5000 and PS5/XB Series X/S at the same time.
The PS5/XB contract might have bitten AMD's hand, they would rather have all that TSMC 7nm capacity be making Ryzen 5000/RX 6000.