TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Mr.Scott]

Work on your cable-fu.
Holy christ!

 

[Trekkie4]

Work on your cable-fu.
Holy christ!

You /do/ realize that the picture you saw was taken 15+ years ago? I actually learned a thing or two about cable management since then
I had to start somewhere... And what you just saw was pretty much my first "real" project, where I stripped the entire system apart & then rebuilt it from scratch.

 

[biffzinker]

You /do/ realize that the picture you saw was taken 15+ years ago? I actually learned a thing or two about cable management since then
I had to start somewhere...

Don't we all? The recent builds/rebuilds you've posted had tidy cable management.

 

[Trekkie4]

Don't we all? The recent builds/rebuilds you've posted had tidy cable management.

Exactly, and thanks! I'm quite obsessed with cable management nowdays, maybe even partially because of that mess from back in a day. Sometimes I find myself assembling the entire system within half an hour, 45mins top, but then tweaking & messing around with cable management for hours & hours! I believe the longest one (absolute record so far) was around 2 and a half days!

 

[Mr.Scott]

You /do/ realize that the picture you saw was taken 15+ years ago?

I did not.
My bad.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ever since my early years, I was soo persnickety about rats-nest cabling. I started doing cable management in the 80's. I saw the above picture, just shook my head and laughed. @Trekkie4 if I had been there, you couldn't have stopped me from redoing the cabling in that PC.

 

[Trekkie4]

I did not.
My bad.

Sorry, I figured it would be obvious with the yellow date stamp, in the bottom-right corner... No worries!

Ever since my early years, I was soo persnickety about rats-nest cabling. I started doing cable management in the 80's. I saw the above picture and just shook my head and laughed. @Trekkie4 if I had been there, you couldn't have stopped me from redoing the cabling in that PC.

Hehehe! But look at it this way - if you had done the job for me, then I would have never mastered the "art" of cable management and all my systems would be a total mess even today

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hehehe! But look at it this way - if you had done the job for me, then I would have never mastered the "art" of cable management and all my systems would be a total mess even today

Good point! Of course you could have watched and learned a few things...

 

[INSTG8R]

Oh, hell no. I'm mildly OCD and where speaker placement is concerned, if they're not perfectly symmetrical to each other and equa-distant to the display, it drives me right bonkers.

This! Even I’d like wider spacing....look I have no idea why this upside down will have to report the issue...

@W1zzard this photo thing is a problem

Edit: Fixed it’s definitely a FF Mobile issue

 

[Trekkie4]

This! Even I’d like wider spacing....look I have no idea why this upside down will have to report the issue...
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@W1zzard this photo thing is a problem

Upside down .... you're not from Australia, are you?!

 

[INSTG8R]

Upside down .... you're not from Australia, are you?!

I dunno what's going on I actually flipped it and uploaded it again upside down and it still loaded upside down....

Edit: it’s a FF Mobile issue I’m in the right side up now

 

[QuietBob]

Hey guys, remember that funky case I picked up on the cheap a while ago in post 4381477? I finally decided to give it a purpose. Time for another build! For this one I envisioned a bare bones Win7 rig. As in, the slowest PC that can run Windows 7 64-bit.

I'd like to hear from you. What's your experience running Win7 on basic hardware? Which components would you recommend for my build? Out of sheer curiosity, I wanna try the absolute minimum and see how/if it runs the 64-bit version

Ideas welcome!

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'd like to hear from you. What's your experience running Win7 on basic hardware? Which components would you recommend for my build? Out of sheer curiosity, I wanna try the absolute minimum and see how/if it runs the 64-bit version

Define "basic". Realistically, you could run Win7 well on a even a low end Core2Duo and just 2 or 3 GB of ram. It just depends on what you have in mind.

 

[Trekkie4]

Define "basic". Realistically, you could run Win7 well on a even a low end Core2Duo and just 2 or 3 GB of ram. It just depends on what you have in mind.

...and that would actually be my upcoming project, so stay tuned!

 

[biffzinker]

I wanna try the absolute minimum and see how/if it runs the 64-bit version

If you want to try with the minimum system requirements:

• 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor*
• 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
• 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
• DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver

What does it mean if Windows isn't supported? - Microsoft Support

Learn what it means if you have an older version of Windows that's no longer supported.

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[phill]

I wished to share a few pics with you all I've been able to buy myself a few things, so here's a few pics of the testing








No matter what I do, I can't get my second 3850 to play nice and work with any driver or OS or version of driver at all... Not sure why or what is stopping it but damn it's annoying... I'll grab some more pics and put them up soon, bed time is calling right now and I've hit a 30 picture limit I loved that benchmark as well, 3D Mark 2000... Used to test my Duron 650 and Geforce 2 MX card in that!!



Works well, fan bearings I think are on the way out, but we can hopefully replace it





I'm not sure these two motherboards and setups are Nostalgic but.... Just awesome hardware regardless I'll put up a few more before I head to bed...

I'll write a little more up about it soon I'll have to grab some more picture of the AGP cards, tested about 6 I think in total and I have a few more to do

And here was the third board....



Love this board!! Toying with a E5-1680 V2 I think to go in it....
And here we are with my Crosshair and Rampage collection... There's some hidden behind the Crosshair boards and there's one missing from the Rampage board as it's currently in the USA!



I'm trying to get my hands on a Rampage 5 R5E 10 model and possibly a Extreme 6 Encore, but we'll see how that pans out and it's not Nostalgic at all, so I won't be posting it here!!

I'll do my best to get some of the AGP cards I've tested, pictured here Got a few more to test shortly as well

 

[MaxiPro800]

Just dug up some old i3 stuff I initially discarded due to board issues, which I might have finally discovered how to fix.

i3 540, 2GB of DDR3, a 512MB HD4850, and a Gigabyte H55M-S2V, with ME region issues apparently.

 

[Trekkie4]

Just a quick heads up, for all of you guys here who kindly offered to help me with my Adison project on one way or another.

Earlier today I received probably the most terrible news in my entire life. A senior family member who contracted Covid 19 was rushed into the hospital & the situation is critical, without the long-term prognosis. She is 89 years old, so there's hardly any room for miracles I'm afraid. We are talking days, hours or maybe even minutes.

Meanwhile, at the same time. My very dear & close friend , my soulmate was rushed into the intensive care after suffering from severe chemo therapy side effects and by the looks of it was pronounced brain-dead. From what I've been told, It is only a matter of time before unplugging her from the ventilator, so I hope that all of you understand, I'm backing off from retro hardware & quite frankly don't know when & if I'll ever get back to it.

Thank you for the understanding

 

[biffzinker]

Thank you for the understanding

Understood, you can always come back if you need a distraction from what’s going on.

 

[QuietBob]

Realistically, you could run Win7 well on a even a low end Core2Duo and just 2 or 3 GB of ram.

Thanks for the suggestion. I may try something even s/lower, if only for experiment.

try with the minimum system requirements:

• 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor*

Right, that's a good starting point. Since I decided on a 64-bit build, I'd now have to find the slowest 64-bit CPU. I don't think there were any running at 1 GHz though.

hope that all of you understand, I'm backing off from retro hardware & quite frankly don't know when & if I'll ever get back to it.

Aww man, so sorry to hear the sad news... I'll keep that keyboard for you

 

[agent_x007]

@QuietBob It needs 64-bit support, so you are stuck at lowest end with Celeron D (some Prescott-256 E0 based should have it) or Semprons on LGA 754/939 (depending on Dual Channel support/AGP).
With that being said, do you plan on waitng on death before installation (RAM = 1x 256MB DDR1 option) ?
Or maybe just like watching paint dry : IDE 40GB 5400RPM HDD (or microSD card) ?
There is also the adventure of installing 64-bit OS on nForce 3 with AGP or trying your luck with NVMe on old platform to get better results...

I'm NOT couting weird VIA or Atom based systems, since that would be just painful to read about.

 

[lexluthermiester]

@QuietBob It needs 64-bit support, so you are stuck at lowest end with Celeron D (some Prescott-256 E0 based should have it) or Semprons on LGA 754/939 (depending on Dual Channel support/AGP).

Not true, he could use the 32bit version of Win7. I ran Win7-32bit on my old ASUS EEEPC with an Atom N330 and it ran fine.

 

[framebuffer]

EPoX EP-9NPA+SLI

pentium w/ MMX tech (233MHz)

 

[agent_x007]

Right, that's a good starting point. Since I decided on a 64-bit build, I'd now have to find the slowest 64-bit CPU. I don't think there were any running at 1 GHz though.

Based on this^ :
@lexluthermiester You can't go older that what I wrote if you want to have 64-bit support (regardless of OS you want to use). Unless you do IA-64, but that's WAAY out of the scope of this... I hope
I think : Celeron D 326 + 256MB RAM (or 128MB if you find a single stick of DDR1 at such low capacity) are slower than any Atom platform.

 

[debs3759]

Right, that's a good starting point. Since I decided on a 64-bit build, I'd now have to find the slowest 64-bit CPU. I don't think there were any running at 1 GHz though.

P4 620 @2800MHz
Celeron D @3067MHz
Athlon 64 2800+ (Clawhammer ADAAA2800ACN5) @1600MHz
Sempron 3000+ (Paris SDA3000AIP2AX) @1800MHz

seem to be the slowest 64-bit options