Xeon Owners Club

[lexluthermiester]

Well I am on X79 platform you guys are on X58 and the problem there is lacking of AVX support that is needed for CP 2077

Are you sure? I'm not using any patches and am running just fine. Didn't even get a warning about it.

 

[biffzinker]

Are you sure? I'm not using any patches and am running just fine. Didn't even get a warning about it.

What chip model are you using?

Edit: Nvm, I found it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What chip model are you using?

Edit: Nvm, I found it.

Xeon W3680. It's not officially supported but it's running fine. I wonder if CDPR removed the limitation?

 

[Edwired]

Been checking around it appears the patch 1.04 for cyberpunk 2077 i think said to have removed/fixed the non-avx on older cpus

 

[lexluthermiester]

Been checking around it appears the patch 1.04 for cyberpunk 2077 i think said to have removed/fixed the non-avx on older cpus

I just got on GOG's forums and found a bunch of people having issues as well and not just with Xeons. It seems there are some AMD CPU's having issues as well, models that are supposed to have AVX.

 

[biffzinker]

It seems there are some AMD CPU's having issues as well, models that are supposed to have AVX.

The only AMD CPU’s with AVX before Zen was Bulldozer, and Socket AM1 (Jaguar.) Phenom/II only had SSE3, and SSE4a

 

[Edwired]

I just got on GOG's forums and found a bunch of people having issues as well.

Yeah I noticed that too

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Are you sure? I'm not using any patches and am running just fine. Didn't even get a warning about it.

Well...not sure but that's what a lot of people saying and that is what game required......

I just got on GOG's forums and found a bunch of people having issues as well and not just with Xeons. It seems there are some AMD CPU's having issues as well, models that are supposed to have AVX.

Yeah new Ryzens CPU's also have some issue with CP 2077 but that is nothing to do with the AVX also there are some fixes for that 2.....game is good but have a lot of bugs&issues....

 

[Edwired]

Yeah it looks rough for the performance as I seen and read about the company releasing the game on all platforms but it isn't exactly properly polished due to a long list of problems that needed addressing but it cutting it real close before Christmas Day before they take the break for a week or two

 

[lexluthermiester]

Ok, time for a clarification. My son-in-law was watching me type out a response here and we started talking about the subject. It would seem that he discovered it and applied the patch himself to all of our systems that needed it while I was working(he had been the one to install the game on all of our systems). He did mention that he'd DL'd and applied a fix but we didn't discuss it in much detail.

So that explains that..

For a few minutes I thought I was going completely bonkers..

 

[Edwired]

Suppose I check out cyberpunk 2077 once it done downloading and it for testing purposes to see how bad is it for my setup since I have asus gtx 1050 ti oc expedition with 4gb vram as according to the recommend specs by https://support.cdprojektred.com/en...issue/1556/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements it asking for gtx 1060 with 6gb vram. I say it going to choke the gpu badly due to less vram i have

 

[biffzinker]

I say it going to choke the gpu badly due to less vram i have

It might not be all that bad performance wise for you. At least your 1050 Ti has 4 GB of GDDR5, the 128-bit bus will choke the GPU though.

Reducing the rendering resolution with slider in settings to 900P, and having it upscaled to the monitor's resoultion might get a playable framerate.

PS4 Xbox One X are around the performance of a 280X, and your factory overclocked 1050 Ti is a little faster than the 8% difference.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

It might not be all that bad performance wise for you. At least your 1050 Ti has 4 GB of GDDR5, the 128-bit bus will choke the GPU though.

Reducing the rendering resolution with slider in settings to 900P, and having it upscaled to the monitor's resoultion might get a playable framerate.

Yeah the 128-bit bus is definitely the bigger problem then the 4Gb Vram buffer...I mean I have R9 Fury(4gb-HBM) and having more then decent performance but sure 4096-bit bus on Fury is always wideeeee open ...here bellow is 1080p list of GPU's performance on medium 1080p

I am getting around 45-50 FPS with R9 Fury which is there on par or even better then RX 580,590 and GTX 1650S.....seems like GTX 1050 TI is gasping for air on this settings.......maybe on low is a bit better but I guess that on 720p should do just fine....

 

[Edwired]

It might not be all that bad performance wise for you. At least your 1050 Ti has 4 GB of GDDR5, the 128-bit bus will choke the GPU though.

Reducing the rendering resolution with slider in settings to 900P, and having it upscaled to the monitor's resoultion might get a playable framerate.

Yeah have to wait and see how it goes once it done. As the gpu have is this one in the link https://www.asus.com/ie/Graphics-Cards/EX-GTX1050TI-O4G/ it the one that have the higher boost clock of 1455mhz but it does boost to 1835mhz without overclocking gpu or memory core all i did is unlock the core voltage and put the slider to 100 with max fan speed. Highest gpu temp last I remembered was somewhere 52c to 54c it either resident evil 3 remake or tt isle of man 2 that pushed the temp that high as I was checking which setting that was causing that. But daily usage it between 19c to 26c depending on room temps

 

[lexluthermiester]

Suppose I check out cyberpunk 2077 once it done downloading and it for testing purposes to see how bad is it for my setup since I have asus gtx 1050 ti oc expedition with 4gb vram as according to the recommend specs by https://support.cdprojektred.com/en...issue/1556/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements it asking for gtx 1060 with 6gb vram. I say it going to choke the gpu badly due to less vram i have

Do yourself a favor, in the NVidia Control Panel create a profile for the game and disable all AntiAliasing/FXAA settings, Ambient Occusion and DSR settings. Then enable shader cache(if it's not already) and Triple Buffering. Then in game turn all shadow, fog, cloud and mirror settings to off/low(or medium) as your framerate goal permits. You should be good to go after that... Also, playing at 1080p is good, but the game still looks good at 720p. Give it a try if your framerates give you trouble. Your VRAM shouldn't be the limiting factor at either of those resolutions.

Highest gpu temp last I remembered was somewhere 52c to 54c it either resident evil 3 remake or tt isle of man 2 that pushed the temp that high as I was checking which setting that was causing that. But daily usage it between 19c to 26c depending on room temps

With you it seems noise is not as important as performance! Nice.

 

[Edwired]

Do yourself a favor, in the NVidia Control create a profile for the game and disable all AntiAliasing/FXAA settings, Ambient Occusion and DSR settings. Then enable shader cache(if it's not already) and Triple Buffering. Then in game turn all shadow, fog cloud and mirror settings to low(or medium) as your framerate goal permits. You should be good to go after that... Also, playing at 1080p is good, but the game still looks good at 720p. Give it a try if your framerates give you trouble. Your VRAM shouldn't be the limiting factor at either of those resolutions.


With you it seems noise is not as important as performance! Nice.

Will do as I'm partially deaf noise isn't a problem for me and I will check the nvidia control panel and do the following settings tweaks and I will report back once I have it running

 

[lexluthermiester]

Update on the AVX issue discussed earlier, update 1.05 will remove the AVX requirement thus making CP2077 run properly on older CPU's(including Xeons) that are otherwise perfectly capable of running it! Also a ton of other fixes!

Hotfix 1.05

Hotfix 1.05 is now live on PC, Xbox and PlayStation systems!

www.cyberpunk.net

I know it's not specifically topic related but since it was being discussed earlier, I thought it deserved a mention here.

 

[Edwired]

So far I left the nvidia control panel close to default settings and drop the image quality to high peformance, power option to optimised then launched cyberpunk for the first time no hiccup until the part where introduction it locked up and dashboarded to the desktop with flatlined warning. So I did abit of digging about why it did that it needed the avx fix in the cyberpunk2077.exe in order to work normally. Other than that I dropped all the settings to off/low or medium and set the resolution to 1280x720 with vsync on and locked to 30 fps. If I set it to 1920x1080 it keep tripping the power limited resulting loss in gpu clocks due to no pcie power slot on my gpu. Loading isnt too bad either as it loading from hdd and lastly the Xeon x5675 is handling it showing higher gpu usage and lower cpu usage but the virtual/committed memory is on high side somewhere between 12.5gb to 13.5gb but the physical memory idles somewhere in the 8gb region

Tested abit more on cyberpunk at 1920x1080 with fps locked to 30 then the power limit is constant on the gtx 1050ti it screaming for mercy Might have to fiddle with power management in NV control panel to let it eat power for breakfast

 

[lexluthermiester]

So far I left the nvidia control panel close to default settings and drop the image quality to high peformance, power option to optimised then launched cyberpunk for the first time no hiccup until the part where introduction it locked up and dashboarded to the desktop with flatlined warning. So I did abit of digging about why it did that it needed the avx fix in the cyberpunk2077.exe in order to work normally. Other than that I dropped all the settings to off/low or medium and set the resolution to 1280x720 with vsync on and locked to 30 fps. If I set it to 1920x1080 it keep tripping the power limited resulting loss in gpu clocks due to no pcie power slot on my gpu. Loading isnt too bad either as it loading from hdd and lastly the Xeon x5675 is handling it showing higher gpu usage and lower cpu usage but the virtual/committed memory is on high side somewhere between 12.5gb to 13.5gb but the physical memory idles somewhere in the 8gb region

Tested abit more on cyberpunk at 1920x1080 with fps locked to 30 then the power limit is constant on the gtx 1050ti it screaming for mercy Might have to fiddle with power management in NV control panel to let it eat power for breakfast

I hate to say this, but it might be time for a GPU upgrade. A GTX1070 or 1080 would make a world of difference. Even a 980ti would greatly boost your gaming performance. If you're in the market and prices are ok where you live that is. Your X5675 will not be the limiting factor for your CP2077 experience.

 

[Edwired]

I know it long overdue but the prices for used gtx1080 ti is out of control last I checked they are fetching between €350 to €1100 that without postage and Im not paying with that kind of money to be honest

 

[lexluthermiester]

used gtx1080 ti

Don't go for a 1080ti. Go for a 1070 or 1080.

 

[Edwired]

Nah I stay with the gtx 1050 ti I cant complain about it as it doing what I want for now

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nah I stay with the gtx 1050 ti I cant complain about it as it doing what I want for now

Just food for thought;

GeForce GTX 1050 Ti vs GeForce GTX 980 vs GeForce RTX 2060 [videocardbenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

www.videocardbenchmark.net

If you can find either for a good price, it would be worth it.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Just food for thought;

GeForce GTX 1050 Ti vs GeForce GTX 980 vs GeForce RTX 2060 [videocardbenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

www.videocardbenchmark.net

If you can find either for a good price, it would be worth it.

Passmark is not "ideal"for GPU comparison I personally prefer Time Spy but yeah sure I agree GTX 980 is much better then 1050TI if you don't mind power consumption.....so you guys can always check current GPU's LIST according to the Time Spy Graphic test......best deal atm are still RX 470/480/570/580-4gb versions are cheap 8gb not....

 

[lexluthermiester]

Passmark is not "ideal"for GPU comparison

I prefer Passmark's more well rounded approach to gauging GPU performance, but that's just personal preference. Time Spy is also a solid metric to use.