The TPU UK Clubhouse

[Tatty_Two]

Can we just nuke you guys in London because you're all a disease(i'm just kidding guys, hope all of you are using your own initiative and staying safe between you,your family and friends.

It appears most of them left the capital to go spread it a bit around the country in time for Xmas

 

[FreedomEclipse]

i live in south wales i dont think theres morthan 3 million in the whole country theres deff more sheep than people .

Yer.

Not for long.

time to tell martha to get the shotgun.

 

[Space Lynx]

We have the highest population density in Europe I believe, one of the reasons we are doing so bad with Covid-19 (apart from some crap policies). England alone has a land mass of 133,000 square km, Finland has 338,000 square km, almost 3 times the size but here is the thing, England has a population of almost 57 million people...…. it's busy here!

and Finland's population is 5 million... lol so yeah. honestly I love the UK, but when I visited my relatives in England they live in a small town, and it was really lovely. and I agree with my relatives, they don't like London and I didn't either. giant cities, big cities, are not my thing. spending 50 minutes on a bus in bumper to bumper traffic even in smaller cities of 200k people was... a horrible experience for me. I'm use to small town life where there is literally no traffic, but still plenty of places to eat, several stores, etc. the main street gets clogged sometimes, but I lived here my whole life so i just take the backroads, never a car in sight. lol

more on topic, I read that the Secretary of Health of United Kingdom said they expect to have vast majority if not everyone that is considered at risk vaccinated before April 2021. Is this a realistic timeline, or is it normal for politicians to posture on stuff like this in the UK? He also said the UK is expected to have a normal summer, everything open. What a dream that would be.

Yer.

Not for long.

time to tell martha to get the shotgun.

that video was like watching a nightmare waiting to happen... wow... idiots.

 

[Space Lynx]

Inocculated?

correct, sorry i forgot to type vaccine, just thought it was implied. editing it now, my bad!

also, does anyone know a pathway to UK Citizenship if I can prove my great grandparents lived/born in England, and I can also prove their lineage back to the 14th century? I would love to have dual citizenship... I love rural/nature England more than anywhere else on Earth. something in my entire body just relaxes when I am in small town England, things makes sense. I don't how to explain it. I love it though. and miss it dearly.

 

[kurosagi01]

Yeah. Turning is all into Char Siu isnt the answer friend.

Char siu is tasty..tasty human flesh with radiation doesn't sound too bad.

It appears most of them left the capital to go spread it a bit around the country in time for Xmas

That is true..might as-well nuke the whole of England then.

 

[Tatty_Two]

and Finland's population is 5 million... lol so yeah. honestly I love the UK, but when I visited my relatives in England they live in a small town, and it was really lovely. and I agree with my relatives, they don't like London and I didn't either. giant cities, big cities, are not my thing. spending 50 minutes on a bus in bumper to bumper traffic even in smaller cities of 200k people was... a horrible experience for me. I'm use to small town life where there is literally no traffic, but still plenty of places to eat, several stores, etc. the main street gets clogged sometimes, but I lived here my whole life so i just take the backroads, never a car in sight. lol

more on topic, I read that the Secretary of Health of United Kingdom said they expect to have vast majority if not everyone that is considered at risk vaccinated before April 2021. Is this a realistic timeline, or is it normal for politicians to posture on stuff like this in the UK? He also said the UK is expected to have a normal summer, everything open. What a dream that would be.



that video was like watching a nightmare waiting to happen... wow... idiots.

Having seen Finland for myself I cannot imagine why anyone would want to move to England/UK, certainly not the BIG cities, but I like you, prefer the smaller towns, mine has a population of around 45,000 and I am lucky enough to live right on the edge so I have a river 100m to my left and a canal and lake 50m to my right with open countryside in the middle but I can still walk into town in 10 minutes.

Maybe if I was 25 again the big cities would have more appeal but I am not …….. and they don't, although I do enjoy visiting, I really like London but that's because I can leave when it suits

Edit: As for vaccine's, they are looking to do everyone 50+ plus those younger with chronic underlying conditions and all key workers by Easter, yes it is a tall order and I am sceptical, I don't think they will be a long way off that depending on the availability of sufficient quantities of a vaccine but if I can have both of my jabs by Easter I would think they were doing OK and I am 60.

 

[Space Lynx]

Having seen Finland for myself I cannot imagine why anyone would want to move to England/UK, certainly not the BIG cities, but I like you, prefer the smaller towns, mine has a population of around 45,000 and I am lucky enough to live right on the edge so I have a river 100m to my left and a canal and lake 50m to my right with open countryside in the middle but I can still walk into town in 10 minutes.

Maybe if I was 25 again the big cities would have more appeal but I am not …….. and they don't, although I do enjoy visiting, I really like London but that's because I can leave when it suits

Edit: As for vaccine's, they are looking to do everyone 50+ plus those younger with chronic underlying conditions and all key workers by Easter, yes it is a tall order and I am sceptical, I don't think they will be a long way off that depending on the availability of sufficient quantities of a vaccine but if I can have both of my jabs by Easter I would think they were doing OK and I am 60.

For me the answer is simple really, Finland is to cold and to dark the majority of the year, I believe barely any sunlight for 7ish months. Also, walking the same streets my ancestors walked on (which I did, my relatives showed me a path my great grandmother walked to Church and her mother before her), that was quite... well just it really is surreal in the moment as silly as it might sound. It was neat thinking how many generations that came before me lived in that one little area. Also, the views were stunning, and the river... and all the birds... and hiking nearby all the hills that allowed me to see endless sheep for miles in any direction. I would give anything to live there, I truly believe I would finally be at peace in life. I also love the Saturday market there, fresh fruits and veggies from greenhouses, crowded on those days sure, but not overcrowded like a big city. I don't know if Finland participates in a similar type of Saturday market tradition, but I really enjoy that. That is one thing people never really mention about Ireland/UK, USA at least where I live, people have never heard of anything like a traditional Saturday market. I thought it was brilliant the first time I experienced it, really felt the sense of community. You don't get that community feel from neighbors in big cities or small ones even in my experience.

Well if I can never live there someday, I intend to visit whenever I get vacation time, or perhaps in retirement at old age... if I ever last that long.

 

[dorsetknob]

if I can prove my great grandparents lived/born in England,

Think >>>> (not sure) that your entitlement/claim to citizenship only goes back to your Grandparents if at least one was UK-/ Commonwealth Born.

 

[Space Lynx]

Think >>>> (not sure) that your entitlement/claim to citizenship only goes back to your Grandparents if at least one was UK-/ Commonwealth Born.

Can someone explain to me how so many people can live in UK then? I don't really get it, my Great Grandfather was an Officer in the British Navy... yet I am still not allowed in... but London is filled with foreign people, I don't really get it... how...

 

[dorsetknob]

We had a BIG Empire ( and at one time encompased over a 1/4 of the earths land mass) and lots of people were entitled to call themself British Citizen.

Post 1945 The Home Country(UK) Started to restrict who was or was entitled to Citizenship

 

[Space Lynx]

We had a BIG Empire ( and at one time encompased over a 1/4 of the earths land mass) and lots of people were entitled to call themself British Citizen.

Post 1945 The Home Country(UK) Started to restrict who was or was entitled to Citizenship

Yeah that makes sense I suppose. I think more of the truth is though, is lot of university students come over and major in something in demand so they can re-settle in UK in in-demand jobs, unfortunately for me I suck at this in-demand jobs, so I am out of luck, even though if it were not for people like my ancestors England would have never lasted, irony is a part of English blood though, so it's all good. lol

edit: I know this because I tried doing it in Ireland, if you graduate from Uni in Ireland, you get a work visa for two years, LOL but when I graduated, covid hit... so... those dreams vanished fast.

 

[dorsetknob]

Spoiler: no Route to citizenship this way :)

no i did not know either your mother or grandmother in a bibilical way

 

[Space Lynx]

Spoiler: no Route to citizenship this way :)

no i did not know either your mother or grandmother in a bibilical way

ya it's no big deal and I don't care that much, I am pretty sure even the small towns are going to be overrun someday. didn't Boris Johnson recently invite anyone from Hong Kong to move to UK? like yeah... UK is at max capacity... you can't be taking anyone else in... lol and Boris wants to do even more on top of the already allowed thousands and thousands each year. I guess I will just have to pick somewhere in Wyoming or somewhere with almost no population and re-settle. I like my peace and quiet and no traffic. but I will always miss England, that is for certain. at least rural England.

I really don't understand what is with these politicians and understanding there simply isn't any room left for a small sustainable island to have x amount of people.... Ireland has a similar problem... sitting in the 2 hr bumper to bumper traffic in the smaller cities... I won't miss that, no sir I won't miss it.

Boris Johnson Pledges to Admit 3 Million From Hong Kong to U.K. (Published 2020)

The promise, in reaction to a new security law China is trying to impose on the semiautonomous city, a former British colony, would sharply raise the stakes in a developing standoff.

www.nytimes.com

 

[FreedomEclipse]

ya it's no big deal and I don't care that much, I am pretty sure even the small towns are going to be overrun someday. didn't Boris Johnson recently invite anyone from Hong Kong to move to UK? like yeah... UK is at max capacity... you can't be taking anyone else in... lol and Boris wants to do even more on top of the already allowed thousands and thousands each year. I guess I will just have to pick somewhere in Wyoming or somewhere with almost no population and re-settle. I like my peace and quiet and no traffic. but I will always miss England, that is for certain. at least rural England.

I really don't understand what is with these politicians and understanding there simply isn't any room left for a small sustainable island to have x amount of people.... Ireland has a similar problem... sitting in the 2 hr bumper to bumper traffic in the smaller cities... I won't miss that, no sir I won't miss it.

Boris Johnson Pledges to Admit 3 Million From Hong Kong to U.K. (Published 2020)

The promise, in reaction to a new security law China is trying to impose on the semiautonomous city, a former British colony, would sharply raise the stakes in a developing standoff.

www.nytimes.com

Out of that total figure, some 300k of them will probably decide to go back after a year because they cant get used to the life here never mind how cold and damp it always is. Too much of a culture shock .

earlier reports was that the figure was 600k that wanted to come over but now its 3million...

Back in 1997 when HK got handed back to China, a lot of HK Chinese came over here too... A lot of them ended up going back because they couldnt get used to being here. Im expecting more of the same.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of 3million HK Chinese living in the UK. Im guessing the CCP will also do their part to prevent people from leaving as well as the UK offering the HK people a means of escape is seen as interfering in their business.

we are on a whole different level when it comes to eastern euro immigrants too so expect a lot of new businesses to eventually pop up in a few years. HK people are very motivated like that. They dont want to live their life on state benefits like a lot of other folks may do.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Yeah that makes sense I suppose. I think more of the truth is though, is lot of university students come over and major in something in demand so they can re-settle in UK in in-demand jobs, unfortunately for me I suck at this in-demand jobs, so I am out of luck, even though if it were not for people like my ancestors England would have never lasted, irony is a part of English blood though, so it's all good. lol

edit: I know this because I tried doing it in Ireland, if you graduate from Uni in Ireland, you get a work visa for two years, LOL but when I graduated, covid hit... so... those dreams vanished fast.

You may be forgetting the EU and one of the reasons some voted for Brexit was that member states are required to have open borders for EU citizens, it is estimated that over time several million have come here and worked which has resulted in around 3 million now living here. There are some special arrangements also for our commonwealth countries and as Dorset mentioned, the old Empire brought with it some international legal requirements relating to our former responsibilities around immigration.

Currently ethnic groups make up 12% of our population.

 

[dorsetknob]

You may be forgetting the EU and one of the reasons some voted for Brexit was that member states are required to have open borders for EU citizens, it is estimated that over time several million have come here and worked which has resulted in around 3 million now living here.

Pre-Referumdum for Britix it was rumoured that Labour the Remainers wanted resident EU nationals to also have the Right to Vote in our National Referumdumdum.......( a VIEW THAT WAS QUIETLY KILLED AS IT WOULD NOT PASS IF INCLUDED IN Referumdum legistation

which has resulted in around 3 million now living here.

surely that's just the Polish disporia they brought everyone including granny' and grandads ( we also top up their polish State pention to parity with British pensions)

 

[Space Lynx]

Out of that total figure, some 300k of them will probably decide to go back after a year because they cant get used to the life here never mind how cold and damp it always is. Too much of a culture shock .

earlier reports was that the figure was 600k that wanted to come over but now its 3million...

Back in 1997 when HK got handed back to China, a lot of HK Chinese came over here too... A lot of them ended up going back because they couldnt get used to being here. Im expecting more of the same.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of 3million HK Chinese living in the UK. Im guessing the CCP will also do their part to prevent people from leaving as well as the UK offering the HK people a means of escape is seen as interfering in their business.

we are on a whole different level when it comes to eastern euro immigrants too so expect a lot of new businesses to eventually pop up in a few years. HK people are very motivated like that. They dont want to live their life on state benefits like a lot of other folks may do.

that's not the problem, the problem is traffic congestion and overall housing issues... same as Ireland.

 

[Fourstaff]

that's not the problem, the problem is traffic congestion and overall housing issues... same as Ireland.

I'm sure the people coming from HK can teach UK a thing or two about high density living. Have you seen how small the flats are in HK?

Whether its healthy to pack that many people in such a small space, that's a completely different story.

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm sure the people coming from HK can teach UK a thing or two about high density living. Have you seen how small the flats are in HK?

Whether its healthy to pack that many people in such a small space, that's a completely different story.

As long as you all stay in the big cities and leave the small towns of England alone you can do what you like. You can have your 2-3 hour bumper to bumper traffic, just stay away from the endless green hills, for they are more beautiful than anything else in this world, as Tolkien noted when he moved from living there to moving to Birmingham... me and Tolkien will chill in the shire, you all can have Minis Tirith and Minis Ithil.

imo though we as a society in all countries need to start investing in new transportation like Elon Musk's Hyperloop...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Happy Christmas all firstly.

Thought I would share some shock and awe.
Scalping is the new bitcoin apparently.

Asda customers 'speechless' after discovering last minute shopping 'offer'

People are really, really angry with the idea

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

To save a click some tw##s and t&£#@ w¥€$¢√π are scalping home delivery slots at £15 each on Facebook.

 

[pcmasterrace]

Happy Christmas all firstly.

Thought I would share some shock and awe.
Scalping is the new bitcoin apparently.

Asda customers 'speechless' after discovering last minute shopping 'offer'

People are really, really angry with the idea

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

To save a click some tw##s and t&£#@ w¥€$¢√π are scalping home delivery slots at £15 each on Facebook.

How does that even work? I thought you fill your basket with goods, checkout, choose a slot and pay, you can't just book a blank slot without an order and hold it AFAIK so I think that's likely fake?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

How does that even work? I thought you fill your basket with goods, checkout, choose a slot and pay, you can't just book a blank slot without an order and hold it AFAIK so I think that's likely fake?

I'm not interested enough to find out tbh, I agree but never use it so I don't know.

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm not interested enough to find out tbh, I agree but never use it so I don't know.

to be fair, you should of prepared before hand lol - I live in the land of abundance or so I am told, but every year the turkeys and hams always get sold out if you wait to long. we have had our turkey in the freezer for 6 months.

 

[phill]

Happy Christmas everyone!! I can't believe it is Christmas as it's not quite feeling like it for me but still....

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Happy Christmas everyone!! I can't believe it is Christmas as it's not quite feeling like it for me but still....

Yeah, its a rather sad and depressing one. without the joy of family.

And here i am sipping whisky while everyone else is asleep, pondering lifes mysteries