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Nothing is sacraficed! Best 8 cores multithread I see.so they sacrificed multi core performance for a single core lead. nothing really new here..
Nothing is sacraficed! Best 8 cores multithread I see.so they sacrificed multi core performance for a single core lead. nothing really new here..
System Name | Harm's Rig's |
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Processor | 5950X /2700x / AMD 8370e 4500 |
Motherboard | ASUS DARK HERO / ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 |
Cooling | ArcticLiquidFreezer III420 Push/Pull P14 max/Noctua NF-A14 i / Enermax LIQMAX III ARGB 360 AIO |
Memory | Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 16GB (4x 8GB) 4000M TRIDENT Z F-43600V15D-16GTZ /G.SKILL DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | ZOTAC AMP EXTREME AIRO 4090 / 1080 Ti /290X CFX |
Storage | SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB/ WD DARK 770 2TB , Sabrent NVMe 512GB / 1 SSD 250GB / 1 HHD 3 TB |
Display(s) | Thermal Grizzly WireView / TCL 646 55 TV / 50 Xfinity Hisense A6 XUMO TV |
Case | TT 37 VIEW 200MM'S-ARTIC P14MAX / NZXT Tempest custom |
Audio Device(s) | Sharp Aquos |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro PTM PRO 1200W ATX 3.0 PCI-E GEN-5 80 Plus Platinum - EVGA 1300G2/Corsair w750 |
Mouse | G502 |
Keyboard | G413 |
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | Noctua U12S |
Memory | 32GB @ 3600 CL18 |
Video Card(s) | AMD 6800XT |
Storage | WD Black SN850(1TB), WD Black NVMe 2018(500GB), WD Blue SATA(2TB) |
Display(s) | Samsung Odyssey G9 |
Case | Be Quiet! Silent Base 802 |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME-GX-1000 |
The 5800x is above the 11900k in the multi-threaded graph.Nothing is sacraficed! Best 8 cores multithread I see.
Det0x: has a 5950x 844.3 on single thread in cpu-z on here in the forums.
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING |
Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
Memory | 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3 |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p |
Display(s) | ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W |
Case | Dan Cases A4-SFX |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive |
System Name | HTC's System |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Asrock Taichi X370 |
Cooling | NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit |
Memory | G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 6600 8 GB |
Storage | 1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III |
Display(s) | LG 27UD58 |
Case | Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard |
Power Supply | Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Elite |
Software | Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS |
There are two aspects here:
- As an SKU, performance should end up close to 5800X. With a full node disadvantage, power is a problem and pretty certainly that is why multi-core result falls behind. We will have to wait and see what the power consumption will look like but no doubt it will be higher compared to 5800X. Price is up to Intel, they are in disadvantage and should price it lower. On the other hand it is Intel so...
- Architecturally and from "IPC" perspective 3% ahead on a presumably 6% faster clock speed puts it close enough to Zen3. Rocket Lake's Cypress Cove is basically straight Sunny Cove backport. Willow Cove in Tiger Lake adds more cache and some optimizations around that. This puts Intel's architectural state on par with AMD.
Processor | Ryzen 2700X |
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Motherboard | X470 Tachi Ultimate |
Cooling | Scythe Big Shuriken 3 |
Memory | C.R.S. |
Video Card(s) | Radeon VII |
Software | Win 7 |
Benchmark Scores | Never high enough |
Spoken like a TRUE-BLUE Inhel fanbuoy.For me this is truly representative of superior performance because ST + 8 cores remain the optimal configuration. Most of AMD's success is build upon the 10nm failure and not genuine architectural innovation.
pcie 5? lol just as a reminder intel barely started to have pcie4 available on its motherboard when its available for over a year on AMD side.Haha ... this was made with special watercooling maybe outside. At Stock this 11900k is faster than ryzen 5950x at stock. With OC this 11900k is the fastest SC CPU.
Here is the problem: you have to pay again 550 Bucks for this i9 with only 8 cores. At the end of the year you will see Alderlake (new socket1700, new DDR5, maybe PCI-E 5.0).
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X |
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Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 |
Memory | 32Gb G-Skill Trident Z Neo @3806MHz C14 |
Video Card(s) | MSI GeForce RTX2070 |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 49" Curved Ultrawide |
Case | Cooler Master Cosmos |
Audio Device(s) | O2 USB Headphone AMP |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850i |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX |
Software | Windows 11 |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ||| Intel Core i7-3930K |
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Motherboard | ASUS ProArt B550-CREATOR ||| Asus P9X79 WS |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S ||| Be Quiet Pure Rock |
Memory | Crucial 2 x 16 GB 3200 MHz ||| Corsair 8 x 8 GB 1333 MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI GTX 1060 3GB ||| MSI GTX 680 4GB |
Storage | Samsung 970 PRO 512 GB + 1 TB ||| Intel 545s 512 GB + 256 GB |
Display(s) | Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" ||| Eizo EV2416W 24" |
Case | Fractal Design Define 7 XL x 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Cambridge Audio DacMagic Plus |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus PX-850 x 2 |
Mouse | Razer Abyssus |
Keyboard | CM Storm QuickFire XT |
Software | Ubuntu |
System Name | Apex Raptor: Silverback |
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Processor | Intel i9 13900KS 6.1GHz/Allcore5.8 |
Motherboard | z790 Apex |
Cooling | LT720 360mm + Phanteks T30 |
Memory | 32GB @8000MT/s CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 |
Storage | 990 PRO 2TB / Firecuda 530 2TB |
Display(s) | Neo G8 / C1 65" |
Case | Antec Performance 1 |
Audio Device(s) | DT 1990 Pro / Motu M2 |
Power Supply | Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w |
Mouse | Scimitar Pro |
Keyboard | K95 Platinum |
System Name | Bragging Rights |
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Processor | Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz |
Motherboard | It has no markings but it's green |
Cooling | No, it's a 2.2W processor |
Memory | 2GB DDR3L-1333 |
Video Card(s) | Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz) |
Storage | 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3 |
Display(s) | 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz |
Case | Veddha T2 |
Audio Device(s) | Apparently, yes |
Power Supply | Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger |
Mouse | MX Anywhere 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all) |
VR HMD | Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though.... |
Software | W10 21H1, barely |
Benchmark Scores | I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000. |
AMD blew it with 5600X pricing is past tense, and you're comparing it to a future tense hypothetical processor that doesn't yet have a launch date, final specs, or price?11400F should be the best budget gaming option on the market IF priced below $200. AMD blew it with 5600X pricing.
System Name | Fujitsu Siemens, HP Workstation |
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Processor | Athlon x2 5000+ 3.1GHz, i5 2400 |
Motherboard | Asus |
Memory | 4GB Samsung |
Video Card(s) | rx 460 4gb |
Storage | 750 Evo 250 +2tb |
Display(s) | Asus 1680x1050 4K HDR |
Audio Device(s) | Pioneer |
Power Supply | 430W |
Mouse | Acme |
Keyboard | Trust |
System Name | Mirkwood |
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Processor | AMD RYZEN 7 3800X |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) AM4 AMD X470 |
Cooling | Noctua D15S with additional Noctua NF-A12x25 FLX fan |
Memory | G.SKILL Flare X Series CL16 3200Mhz 16GB (4 x 8GB) |
Video Card(s) | GIGABYTE Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12 GV-RX570GAMING-4GD 4GB |
Storage | Crucial MX500 M.2 2280 500GB SATA III; WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive |
Display(s) | Philips 246E9QDSB 24" Frameless Monitor, Full HD IPS, 129% sRGB, 75Hz, FreeSync |
Case | Corsair Graphite Series 780T |
Audio Device(s) | Klipsch R-41PM powered monitors and SVS SB-2000 sub |
Power Supply | Corsair HX650 |
Mouse | Logitech Wireless Performance Mouse MX |
Keyboard | Old Logitech keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64Bit |
Um, did you forget about Bulldozer and Excavator architecture before the move to Zen architecture? There is innovation there, but I guess Intel fanboys are blind to that... When a 6 core 5600X can meet and beat Intel's top of the line 8 core 10900K, it takes innovation. Drop the fanboyism and get your facts straight. Did I mention how much more efficient AMD chips are right now compared to Intel chips that get so hot I could cook dinner with one?For me this is truly representative of superior performance because ST + 8 cores remain the optimal configuration. Most of AMD's success is build upon the 10nm failure and not genuine architectural innovation.
System Name | Good enough |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge |
Motherboard | ASRock B650 Pro RS |
Cooling | 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30 |
Memory | 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora |
Storage | 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB |
Display(s) | LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV |
Case | Phanteks NV7 |
Power Supply | GPS-750C |
System Name | Boomer Master Race |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2Ghz - 5Ghz CPU |
Motherboard | MSI B650I Edge Wifi ITX Motherboard |
Cooling | CM 280mm AIO + 2x 120mm Slim fans |
Memory | Kingston Fury 32GB 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | ASUS RTX 4070 Super 12GB OC |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB + WD 2TB 2.5in HDD |
Display(s) | Sony 4K Bravia X85J 43Inch TV 120Hz |
Case | CM NR200P Max TG ITX Case |
Audio Device(s) | Built In Realtek Digital Audio HD |
Power Supply | CoolerMaster V850 SFX Gold 850W PSU |
Mouse | Logitech G203 Lightsync |
Keyboard | Atrix RGB Slim Keyboard |
VR HMD | ( ◔ ʖ̯ ◔ ) |
Software | Windows 10 Home 64bit |
Benchmark Scores | Don't do them anymore. |
Processor | R5 5600X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING |
Cooling | Alpenföhn Black Ridge |
Memory | 2*16GB DDR4-2666 VLP @3800 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 XC3 |
Storage | 1TB Samsung 970 Pro, 2TB Intel 660p |
Display(s) | ASUS PG279Q, Eizo EV2736W |
Case | Dan Cases A4-SFX |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | Corsair Ironclaw Wireless RGB |
Keyboard | Corsair K60 |
VR HMD | HTC Vive |
Not really. At least since Zen2, AMD is doing that to a relatively higher degree. Zen2 and Zen3 push a good 20+W into one core to get the boost speeds. These 1.4-1.5V voltages are doing their jobIntel have long been great in single-core benchmarks by simply turning the power consumption up to 11 and flaying the absolute snot out of one core.
People should not read too much into any synthetic benchmark scores, and certainly not extrapolate this into generic performance. Wait for proper benchmarks of real world applications.
The mainstream segment will be heating up with good products from both camps, and 6- and 8-core models is where most PC builders should be looking anyway. Those who have real workloads scaling beyond 8 cores generally also benefit from more memory channels, more PCIe lanes, sometimes even ECC, etc. I wish the next round of Threadrippers would start at 12 cores, not 24.
System Name | Bragging Rights |
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Processor | Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz |
Motherboard | It has no markings but it's green |
Cooling | No, it's a 2.2W processor |
Memory | 2GB DDR3L-1333 |
Video Card(s) | Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz) |
Storage | 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3 |
Display(s) | 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz |
Case | Veddha T2 |
Audio Device(s) | Apparently, yes |
Power Supply | Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger |
Mouse | MX Anywhere 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all) |
VR HMD | Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though.... |
Software | W10 21H1, barely |
Benchmark Scores | I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000. |
Fair enough, but doesn't the stock PL1 limit even lightly-threaded workloads like gaming after about two minutes? I haven't actually built and tuned an Intel gaming rig since the 9900K which was already so roasty-toasty that I decided a 360 AIO was mandatory because I wasn't willing to ship a system with an air cooler over 1KG hanging off the socket. The only way I could keep performance reasonable was by editing the PL1 limit to 207W to match PL2. At the stock setting clocks nosedived to the point that he could have just saved €300 and bought a 3700X, it was that bad....Not really. At least since Zen2, AMD is doing that to a relatively higher degree. Zen2 and Zen3 push a good 20+W into one core to get the boost speeds. These 1.4-1.5V voltages are doing their job
What Intel keeps doing is mess with power limits to not throttle multi-core performance too much.
The 10-core was a stunt anyway. Skylake's topology was never intended for more than 6 cores and 8-core chips like the 9900K were already pushing the limits of cache and transport across a monolithic die using that architecture.I have a feeling Intel is still working on a 10 core 20 thread successor but it won't be ready for awhile, they'll probably call it the i9 11950K or some BS, I just cannot fathom a core count decrease.
If AMD priced 5600x anywhere close to 3600xt let alone 3600 (non X) it would sell more than all the sales of 5xxx combined atm, not to mention their margins would suffer. They didn't blew it as much as they had little choice, AMD's probably selling more (volume) chips than Intel+Nvidia combined right now in the DIY space.AMD blew it with 5600X pricing.
System Name | White DJ in Detroit |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
Single core performance is the real deal and lets compare 8Core Intel with 8Core AMD. So it seems will be intel faster again, but with more power use...