The TPU UK Clubhouse

[FreedomEclipse]

But hey that's life.

There is actually a fair few similarish scandals going around here at the moment concerning some of the mainstream charities -- The public generally donates a tonne of money to these charities but a very small percentage of whats donated ever makes it to the people that the charity are supposedly said to be supporting. Most of the money goes into bank accounts, staff and CEO bank accounts and paying £50k+ for a 'diversity coach'

The more money these charities get, the more unnecessary job positions they create because they think they need it.

To put it into context. How bout an old comedy sketch?

 

[Space Lynx]

There is actually a fair few similarish scandals going around here at the moment concerning some of the mainstream charities -- The public generally donates a tonne of money to these charities but a very small percentage of whats donated ever makes it to the people that the charity are supposedly said to be supporting. Most of the money goes into bank accounts, staff and CEO bank accounts and paying £50k+ for a 'diversity coach'

The more money these charities get, the more unnecessary job positions they create because they think they need it.

To put it into context. How bout an old comedy sketch?

Yep, it's really sad. The same goes for universities. They say sports brings in millions of dollars to the universities, but that money doesn't go to lower tuition rates or cost of room and board for the actual degrees, it just goes into higher coach salaries, hiring more sports staff, more admins, etc. Pretty sad really.

 

[Caring1]

nursing home my gf's grandpa lives at in the UK got hit with Covid last two days, he tested positive today. hard to believe with all of our science, power, wealth, its been a full year of knowledge of the virus and we still can't stop it from entering care homes... regardless of country.

but regardless... new years... and all that... ye I guess... another year where a thousand employers job applications send me back an email of "we had a lot of applicants, sorry"... sigh

I hope the old man survives.
As for rejection emails, I know what that is like as I've been applying for hundreds of Houses, Units etc, as I have to move out of the current rental I am in, in 3 weeks.
I've been looking for over 3 months and property managers love to discriminate against single, low income people, despite having a great rental history if they even bothered to check past my income details.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Yep, it's really sad. The same goes for universities. They say sports brings in millions of dollars to the universities, but that money doesn't go to lower tuition rates or cost of room and board for the actual degrees, it just goes into higher coach salaries, hiring more sports staff, more admins, etc. Pretty sad really.

Great charities in the UK look to ensure that a minimum of 90% of all charitable income is invested directly into the cause, Good charities in the UK aim for 80%, the problem often is that the greats and the goods only form around 50% of the nations leading charities, I worked for a large national youth charity for over 14 years after I left the Army as a Regional Manager, I can say from memory that in those 14 years the worst we did was 84% and the best was 89%. Having said that, it's hardest for the medium sized charities (100 - 400 staff) they have the worst of both worlds because they have the staff need and the associated costs that go with it but nationally lack some of the presence to attract national high level corporate sponsorship, large charities can balance the 2 more easily and small charities have greater flexibility and can adapt more quickly to funding trends.

 

[Space Lynx]

Great charities in the UK look to ensure that a minimum of 90% of all charitable income is invested directly into the cause, Good charities in the UK aim for 80%, the problem often is that the greats and the goods only form around 50% of the nations leading charities, I worked for a large national youth charity for over 14 years after I left the Army as a Regional Manager, I can say from memory that in those 14 years the worst we did was 84% and the best was 89%. Having said that, it's hardest for the medium sized charities (100 - 400 staff) they have the worst of both worlds because they have the staff need and the associated costs that go with it but nationally lack some of the presence to attract national high level corporate sponsorship, large charities can balance the 2 more easily and small charities have greater flexibility and can adapt more quickly to funding trends.

sounds like the UK government needs to pass regulation stating if you can't achieve the status of Good Charity at least within 2 years of this legislation being passed you will be shut down. Or perhaps create a new third one called Fair Charity which requires 70% income diverted to good causes.

So failure of government leadership is to blame more than anything imo.

 

[Tatty_Two]

sounds like the UK government needs to pass regulation stating if you can't achieve the status of Good Charity at least within 2 years of this legislation being passed you will be shut down. Or perhaps create a new third one called Fair Charity which requires 70% income diverted to good causes.

So failure of government leadership is to blame more than anything imo.

I wouldn't necessarily agree, in some cases "sectors" determine operating costs and some by nature are more expense heavy but they are still needed because there is simply no replacement in many cases for their work, so global charities can often have more costs relating to overseas staffing, international travel etc. Additionally corporate sponsorship does not count in much of theses stats because the corporates determine what they want out of their donations, for some they simply want association and exposure, some specify very predefined uses, the Charity is accountable to those corporates for their donations and are required to submit reports to those sponsors. Most schools these days are also registered charities.

For individual giving and corporate oversight we have an organisation called "The Charity Commission", it is technically a Government Department that governs all charities and charitable law, charities are required to submit full financials twice yearly, I think the current minimum required in Law to go directly to cause is 80%, or was in my time which ended in early 2019.

Think of it this way, bad charities don't get any charitable income if they don't convert it to cause because no corporate or individual is going to give money to an organisation who does not spend it wisely.

 

[kurosagi01]

nursing home my gf's grandpa lives at in the UK got hit with Covid last two days, he tested positive today. hard to believe with all of our science, power, wealth, its been a full year of knowledge of the virus and we still can't stop it from entering care homes... regardless of country.

but regardless... new years... and all that... ye I guess... another year where a thousand employers job applications send me back an email of "we had a lot of applicants, sorry"... sigh

Not so much the science,power,wealth and knowledge its more the fact we have a huge portion of people that do not believe in it and think its a hoax and taking away freedom,democracy and other jazz these people like to spit out of their mouths.
These same group of people won't be the ones that will suffer either so they will continue to believe in what they think is right.
We are also all very selfish aswell in doing what we feel is right for ourselves and family.

 

[Space Lynx]

Not so much the science,power,wealth and knowledge its more the fact we have a huge portion of people that do not believe in it and think its a hoax and taking away freedom,democracy and other jazz these people like to spit out of their mouths.
These same group of people won't be the ones that will suffer either so they will continue to believe in what they think is right.
We are also all very selfish aswell in doing what we feel is right for ourselves and family.

I disagree, governments of the world could have contacted the companies that make UVC purifiers which is proven to kill the virus 99.99% and installed them in all elderly care nursing home air systems, this could have been done back in June or July when we first realized the power of UVC purifiers, and it would have cost the government a fraction of the cost they are paying now. Also, in my small town in the midwest USA, the National Guard was brought in to protect nursing homes, disinfect everyone, disinfect all supplies brought in, mandatory testing of all employees, etc. To keep the elderly in nursing homes safe, it took them two major failures of nursing home wipeouts to learn their lesson, but they did learn it at least and instilled extra protocol.

 

[kurosagi01]

I disagree, governments of the world could have contacted the companies that make UVC purifiers which is proven to kill the virus 99.99% and installed them in all elderly care nursing home air systems, this could have been done back in June or July when we first realized the power of UVC purifiers, and it would have cost the government a fraction of the cost they are paying now. Also, in my small town in the midwest USA, the National Guard was brought in to protect nursing homes, disinfect everyone, disinfect all supplies brought in, mandatory testing of all employees, etc. To keep the elderly in nursing homes safe, it took them two major failures of nursing home wipeouts to learn their lesson, but they did learn it at least and instilled extra protocol.

They could have but they didn't the government which they will use number of reasons to not justify it and try reason their way out with excuses.
The number of "deaths" and "confirmed" cases in the UK is down to a lot of bad decision from the government but also from people not complying to the "government science guideline"(which from day 1 I feel they didn't follow it to the letter) because somehow "we" know better than the "science".
-You will have people arguing over the whole point of how useful wearing a face mask is
-Good percentage of people not social distancing
-Face mask isn't fully enforced but highly "recommended" or been made "mandatory" however you want to word it when going into supermarkets etc but you will get mix of muppets that don't wear it and nothing gets sorted and people that have exemption(those with exemption really need to stay home and get someone else to do their shopping then)
-People protesting every week it seems in the UK and in the US or something
-Kids under age of 11 do not need to wear face mask still
-Enforcing new guidelines days later (with exemption of what happened over christmas)

Anyway this isn't a Covid discussion..my whole argument is we are all selfish and the government could have done better and reacted faster.

 

[Space Lynx]

Anyway this isn't a Covid discussion..my whole argument is we are all selfish and the government could have done better and reacted faster.

so we are in agreement. though a lot of the stuff you mentioned is debatable and dependent on two parties agreeing, which rarely happens in Democracy. where as my recommendation of UVC Filtration systems put in elderly care homes is really a one and done deal and probably would have saved a lot of lives/saved a lot of money.

 

[kurosagi01]

so we are in agreement. though a lot of the stuff you mentioned is debatable and dependent on two parties agreeing, which rarely happens in Democracy. where as my recommendation of UVC Filtration systems put in elderly care homes is really a one and done deal and probably would have saved a lot of lives/saved a lot of money.

Yes we are in agreement and indeed what I have said is debatable and dependent on two parties agreeing.
The recommendation of uvc filtration in elderly care homes would save lives and money but the gov probably don't see it that way.

 

[lexluthermiester]

To put it into context. How bout an old comedy sketch?

I love that show! The guy who played the minister was also in "The Good Life", one of my favs!

 

[dorsetknob]

It was Classic British political satire/humour and has stood the test of time.
It was also topical for the political events of the time
Never saw anything of a similar Nature from American TV ( except the last wh4y's)

 

[kurosagi01]

Another announcement tonight it seems from our great leader..Wonder what more jazz he is going to be throwing out to make things even more confusing than it already is.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Another announcement tonight it seems from our great leader..Wonder what more jazz he is going to be throwing out to make things even more confusing than it already is.

More lockdown.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Another announcement tonight it seems from our great leader..Wonder what more jazz he is going to be throwing out to make things even more confusing than it already is.

Well on the bright side, a full lockdown couldn't be simpler if everything is closed less food stores, lets hope he gets it right this time and learns from the failed November lockdown that if you keep 6 million kids in school along with a couple of hundred thousand teachers the chances are there will still be infections I understand the need for kids to be at school but if we actually managed to do it right and therefore just do it once it would at least help.

Edit: he may wanna stop 1.5 million students going back to Uni in the next week too!

 

[Space Lynx]

UK is on track to have everyone vaccinated by end of April or May. I'd say one last lockdown is ok, but by end of March most vulnerable people should have the vaccine... so after that I don't know if I can agree with lockdown anymore.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Its comin home! its comin home! its coming! Lockdowns coming home!

 

[Space Lynx]

COVID vaccines "might not" work as well on South African strain, scientists warn

Scientists are optimistic that existing vaccines could be adapted, and they expect trial data soon to help determine whether the new variant really is vaccine-resistant.

www.cbsnews.com

here we go boys, we got a decade of whack a mole ahead of us!

 

[dorsetknob]

Full Lockdown from Wednesday.
Mr Johnson says people should follow the new rules from now, which will become law in the early hours of Wednesday morning and parliament will meet remotely later that day.
and...........2 weeks till i get vaccine.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Full Lockdown from Wednesday............2 weeks till i get vaccine.

Amazon has a Hazmat suit for £20

 

[dorsetknob]

Got my own Glue Gun
Plenty of Bubble wrap
lots of aluminium Foil and Dustbin liners
got goggles and local Halfords will have a modifiable air Filter
(wish i had invested in a 3D printer )

will / might make my own

 

[biffzinker]

will / might make my own

Respirator?

 

[dorsetknob]

Respirator?

got goggles and local Halfords will have a modifiable air Filter

Got my own Glue Gun

and a suitable Heavy Duty Cardboard box( ex Amazon ) to cut glue and modify
Bluetooth headset and mic for comunication with phone

 

[Space Lynx]

It's really going to suck if we are looking back a year from now and still in this same situation due mutations or vaccine efficacy not lasting as long as we'd hoped lol