Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[Durvelle27]

I'm so sorry.

I can send you some G.Sklill black and whites.. 3200 14-14-14-34.. They can go fast. Shipping might take a bit..

Is it 32GB

I’m using 32GB as I eat up RAM

 

[freeagent]

Is it 32GB

I’m using 32GB as I eat up RAM

No I'm sorry, just 16GB

 

[kapone32]

I have 48GB @ 3600 18-18-19-18 it seems pretty snappy to me

 

[Durvelle27]

So with Zen 3 how much does timing actually affect performance

 

[kapone32]

So with Zen 3 how much does timing actually affect performance

I find the Infinity clock is the most mitigating factor.

 

[Durvelle27]

I find the Infinity clock is the most mitigating factor.

Yea I found the answer. So I'm good with a mediocre ram

From the charts it's not as big as a impact as it was on Zen 2 and under

 

[freeagent]

I have 48GB @ 3600 18-18-19-18 it seems pretty snappy to me

My first time using this computer, I didn't do anything in the bios.. put parts together and installed windows. When I was done I opened cpuz to see what my memory was at.. 2133 22-22-22 and it still felt ok to me. and by OK I really mean holy shit this is fast. I was actually surprised because you would think it would run like diarrhea, but nope felt fine.. and by fine I still mean holy shit.. Set it to XMP for the first time, and couldn't really feel a difference.. Now pushing some numbers around and it still feels pretty decent, maybe a little snappier but the experience hasn't changed. Unless you start looking at benchmarks.. I guess it depends what you do.. I'm just a regular user who does nothing mission critical. Its just a hobby.. I could probably get away with a Dell but I might have a touch of OCD, so seeing a naked bios would probably make me sad.. seriously. I think I'm at the limit of what my system can do, and part of me is like ok now what? I guess that's why people buy old hardware to play with

 

[sam_86314]

Got my board back from MSI. They just went ahead and replaced it. Pretty good RMA experience overall.

I like the ASUS board I got, and I'll continue to use it. I'll either upgrade the CPU in my main rig at some point or find a cheap CPU (preferably an R5 1400 or better) to put in the old board.

 

[biffzinker]

Got my board back from MSI. They just went ahead and replaced it. Pretty good RMA experience overall.

I like the ASUS board I got, and I'll continue to use it. I'll either upgrade the CPU in my main rig at some point or find a cheap CPU (preferably an R5 1400 or better) to put in the old board.

Are you going to check up on it just to make sure it’s good to go? Throw on the necessary components see if it’ll POST?

 

[Mussels]

*sips delicious RAM juice with 64GB 3600 18-22-22-22*

TBH i do wanna work on the timings, but i really can't be arsed.

 

[INSTG8R]

*sips delicious RAM juice with 64GB 3600 18-22-22-22*

TBH i do wanna work on the timings, but i really can't be arsed.

Same loose timings I’d try for 3800 on them before actually messing with the timings

 

[Mussels]

I did on earlier agesa and got crashes at idle, but we're like 500 updates in since then

 

[biffzinker]

64GB 3600 18-22-22-22*

That's a lot memory space for an unwelcome bit flip to occur.

 

[Mussels]

That's a lot memory space for an unwelcome bit flip to occur.

I use it for a RAM drive to cache my torrent downloads to reduce SSD wear and tear


not even joking, i then set up a VRAM drive on the actual HTPC to do the same thing, because i'm insane

 

[biffzinker]

not even joking, i then set up a VRAM drive on the actual HTPC to do the same thing, because i'm insane

That is not a qualification for insane. Smart maneuver though.

 

[djisas]

I use it for a RAM drive to cache my torrent downloads to reduce SSD wear and tear


not even joking, i then set up a VRAM drive on the actual HTPC to do the same thing, because i'm insane

Can i do that on 16 GB
I actually switched my torrenting from an 500GB HDD to a turned obsolete 500GB evo 860...
Wonder how long the sammy will last on me...

 

[Mussels]

Can i do that on 16 GB
I actually switched my torrenting from an 500GB HDD to a turned obsolete 500GB evo 860...
Wonder how long the sammy will last on me...

sure can, get primocache
set up a read/write cache with say a 10 second write buffer... watch the writes and fragmentation drop

I dont recommend doing that for an OS drive, if you crash or lose power you can lose 10 seconds of data and brick the OS worst case

 

[freeagent]

Sweet!

 

[djisas]

sure can, get primocache
set up a read/write cache with say a 10 second write buffer... watch the writes and fragmentation drop

I dont recommend doing that for an OS drive, if you crash or lose power you can lose 10 seconds of data and brick the OS worst case

Actually, im running utorrent, the stone age version, on setting's it has disk cache settings, this already should reduce wear on the ssd, me thinks...

 

[Mussels]

Actually, im running utorrent, the stone age version, on setting's it has disk cache settings, this already should reduce wear on the ssd, me thinks...

it does, but this reduces it even further

i run it for my games drives too, its totally pointless but i enjoy making use of the extra ram

 

[tabascosauz]

*sips delicious RAM juice with 64GB 3600 18-22-22-22*

TBH i do wanna work on the timings, but i really can't be arsed.

I mean, if it's not Micron and it's a two-stick kit, timings really aren't getting tighter. So far Rev.B is the only 16Gb IC that actually overclocks (an understatement for illustrious Rev.B, ofc), the rest scale negatively with voltage as soon as you try to do something. You're probably doing the right thing by not messing with it, though I'm curious what exactly is in that kit.

Didn't Toms and our own TPU test back on 3000 and find that even 3600/18 XMP is a gaming improvement over 3200/14 XMP?

 

[djisas]

I mean, if it's not Micron and it's a two-stick kit, timings really aren't getting tighter. So far Rev.B is the only 16Gb IC that actually overclocks (an understatement for illustrious Rev.B, ofc), the rest scale negatively with voltage as soon as you try to do something. You're probably doing the right thing by not messing with it, though I'm curious what exactly is in that kit.

Didn't Toms and our own TPU test back on 3000 and find that even 3600/18 XMP is a gaming improvement over 3200/14 XMP?

In gaming is probably unnoticeable, only ram sensitive apps and benchmarks should make a difference...

Would me trying to get my own kit run at 3800CL18 make a difference from 3600CL16?
Probably to much hassle to be worth it, but I might fiddle with it some when I update my bios...

 

[tabascosauz]

In gaming is probably unnoticeable, only ram sensitive apps and benchmarks should make a difference...

Would me trying to get my own kit run at 3800CL18 make a difference from 3600CL16?
Probably to much hassle to be worth it, but I might fiddle with it some when I update my bios...

No thats not quite what I meant, I just wanted to say that getting to 3600 is better than 3200 even if it's at CL18,

Though the more the DRAM latency comes down and the bigger and faster L3 gets, the less important RAM becomes to Ryzen, it's not the way it used to be

If your Team kit is the CJR or B-die I think it is, either way you'd be looking at doing 3800CL16 not CL18.

 

[djisas]

No thats not quite what I meant, I just wanted to say that getting to 3600 is better than 3200 even if it's at CL18,

Though the more the DRAM latency comes down and the bigger and faster L3 gets, the less important RAM becomes to Ryzen, it's not the way it used to be

If your Team kit is the CJR or B-die I think it is, either way you'd be looking at doing 3800CL16 not CL18.

It's hynix CJR or something...
Had trouble running on current setting on previous bios, not too sure about 3800CL16, they are however rater 4000CL18...

 

[freeagent]

I don't think timings matter that much.. things only move so fast. After looking at numbers in aida64 and trying all kinds of combos, I saw a lot of similarities. But at 1900MHz there is almost no difference in performance between 16-16-16-36 1T 1.4v and 14-14-14-34 1T 1.5v. I haven't really played with 3D too much yet so I could be talking out of my ass.. wouldn't be the first time heh..

I did kick the CPU speed up a little, but I really don't think it has an effect on memory performance, I just did it to flex that Cache a little