Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

sam_86314 · Jan 16, 2021

biffzinker said:
Are you going to check up on it just to make sure it’s good to go? Throw on the necessary components see if it’ll POST?

Meh, that'll require me to completely tear down my rig.

I can tell for certain that they sent me a brand new board. Aside from being factory sealed, I remember mangling the side USB 3.0 connector when I originally got it, and the new board obviously doesn't have that damage.

tabascosauz · Jan 16, 2021

djisas said:
It's hynix CJR or something...
Had trouble running on current setting on previous bios, not too sure about 3800CL16, they are however rater 4000CL18...

Team has too many 4000 kits :laugh:

I'm surprised you managed to snatch up a CJR kit, most of their 4000 stuff is B-die

If it's a 1.35V kit then 3800/16 should be pretty doable below 1.45V. Below 4000 CJR's biggest problem is generally staying under that 1.45V mark - some people say it should be the safe limit for Hynix, some say they've degraded running 1.4-1.45V.

freeagent said:
I don't think timings matter that much.. things only move so fast. After looking at numbers in aida64 and trying all kinds of combos, I saw a lot of similarities. But at 1900MHz there is almost no difference in performance between 16-16-16-36 1T 1.4v and 14-14-14-34 1T 1.5v. I haven't really played with 3D too much yet so I could be talking out of my ass.. wouldn't be the first time heh..

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I did kick the CPU speed up a little, but I really don't think it has an effect on memory performance, I just did it to flex that Cache a little

I have a feeling that 3800/14 profile is unstable. AIDA has a tendency to post very crappy latency scores when the memory profile isn't actually stable. So unless you've tested to about 400%+ in HCI and passed runs in TM5 anta then that 3800/14 profile doesn't look right.

At the same time, if you're looking for sub-60 with a Ryzen 3000, you're kinda barking up the wrong tree :laugh:

accept the latency and enjoy your life

freeagent · Jan 16, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Team has too many 4000 kits I'm surprised you managed to snatch up a CJR kit, most of their 4000 stuff is B-die

If it's a 1.35V kit then 3800/16 should be pretty doable below 1.45V. Below 4000 CJR's biggest problem is generally staying under that 1.45V mark - some people say it should be the safe limit for Hynix, some say they've degraded running 1.4-1.45V.

I have a feeling that 3800/14 profile is unstable. AIDA has a tendency to post very crappy latency scores when the memory profile isn't actually stable. So unless you've tested to about 400%+ in HCI and passed runs in TM5 anta then that 3800/14 profile doesn't look right.

At the same time, if you're looking for sub-60 with a Ryzen 3000, you're kinda barking up the wrong tree accept the latency and enjoy your life

Sweet, Ill try it out! You are probably right. Latency doesn't bother me, just a limitation of the platform! All good :cool:

Like I said in an earlier post, 2133 and a bunch of 22s felt pretty snappy

Mussels · Jan 16, 2021

tabascosauz said:
I mean, if it's not Micron and it's a two-stick kit, timings really aren't getting tighter. So far Rev.B is the only 16Gb IC that actually overclocks (an understatement for illustrious Rev.B, ofc), the rest scale negatively with voltage as soon as you try to do something. You're probably doing the right thing by not messing with it, though I'm curious what exactly is in that kit.

Didn't Toms and our own TPU test back on 3000 and find that even 3600/18 XMP is a gaming improvement over 3200/14 XMP?

it's this, whatever this is

freeagent · Jan 16, 2021

I used to use Linpack Xtreme to test my memory when I ran Intel. It was pretty good.. think it works ok on AMD?

tabascosauz · Jan 16, 2021

Mussels said:
it's this, whatever this is

MJR, huh. Interesting.

Not a lot of info on them. Maybe dial in the secondaries and can try for 3733/3800, probably not much else to be done on those primaries. So you're probably doing the right thing leaving them alone lol

freeagent said:
I used to use Linpack Xtreme to test my memory when I ran Intel. It was pretty good.. think it works ok on AMD?

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Yeah it has a "stress" option but only heard of LinX being used to test/compare mem performance. It does work well in that capacity, though.

freeagent · Jan 16, 2021

tabascosauz said:
Yeah it has a "stress" option but only heard of LinX being used to test/compare mem performance. It does work well in that capacity, though.

Poor choice in words, I should have said I have used it to stress memory, and it worked well. Its pretty sensitive.. I set 8GB to run 25 times and hit go.. I wasn't sure if it would finish.. My other stuff seems to work ok. I'm going to play with my Black and Whites tomorrow and see what they can do. I am curious how far they can go even if timings aren't so tight. I am wonder if they can go faster mhz wise than my Royals.

There are no error reports and everything looks clean so far :cool:

Night · Jan 16, 2021

~~Can someone provide some info for RAM on Ryzen 7 2700X? Anyone did any overclocking on it and is it as efficient as it is on 2nd and 3rd gen?~~

Never mind, I've noticed that the 1usmus' overclocking guide was ran by a 2700X.
But still, my friend is looking for faster RAM. I'm thinking about this one:

F4-3200C14D-16GTZRX-(EOL) - Overview - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

The Trident Z RGB (For AMD) series is tested for AMD platform compatibility. Featuring the award-winning Trident Z heatspreader design, the Trident Z RGB memory series combines the vivid RGB lighting with awesome DDR4 DRAM performance.

www.gskill.com

It's Samsung B Die, but I suppose some Hynix counterpart would also do well?

djisas · Jan 16, 2021

Night said:
Can someone provide some info for RAM on Ryzen 7 2700X? Anyone did any overclocking on it and is it as efficient as it is on 2nd and 3rd gen?

From what I know, zen 1xxx was a bitch, zen 2xxx was better but still tricky, zen 3xxx was a lot better, and the trend with zen 3 5xxx should continue to improve...

Night · Jan 18, 2021

Need more advice on the RAM, anyone?

enor14 · Jan 18, 2021

I'll be in the need of some serious help because I have strange behaviour that I think is coming from some wrong RAM settings. In the evening I'll be around the PC so until then could you please write a list of programs I'll need to extract the informations needed for correct diagnose of the root cause? In the meantime you can find some specs here: CPU-Z Validator

biffzinker · Jan 19, 2021

I found out after installing MSI's Dragon Center along with some unnecessary bloat that I didn't care about (uninstalled what I could.) Under Live Update then clicking the advance button there was a firmware update for the BIOS Flashback button on this B450 Tomahawk. Anyone else knew there was firmware to update?

INSTG8R · Jan 20, 2021

biffzinker said:
I found out after installing MSI's Dragon Center along with some unnecessary bloat that I didn't care about (uninstalled what I could.) Under Live Update then clicking the advance button there was a firmware update for the BIOS Flashback button on this B450 Tomahawk. Anyone else knew there was firmware to update?

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Pure BIOS man! I miss ASUS BIOS on GB but man do I not miss AIsuite....only thing I need installed standalone in my RGB software because BIOS updates reset my RGB

biffzinker · Jan 20, 2021

INSTG8R said:
I miss ASUS BIOS on GB but man do I not miss AIsuite

I only installed Dragon Center for Mystic Lighting which is hidden away/controlled now via Appx called Control Center.

INSTG8R · Jan 20, 2021

biffzinker said:
I only installed Dragon Center for Mystic Lighting which is hidden away/controlled now via Appx called Control Center.

Yeah GB wants you to install their “Control Center“ for everything too but the RGB will go in standalone and all I actually need

Alyjen · Jan 20, 2021

INSTG8R said:
Pure BIOS man! I miss ASUS BIOS on GB but man do I not miss AIsuite....only thing I need installed standalone in my RGB software because BIOS updates reset my RGB

AI Suite has one advantage and it's fan control. Now that I have some fans connected to AIO pump header I can control it via AI Suite the way I want, but not in BIOS (biggest flaw is it won't accept rpms below 60% in BIOS), wrote suggestion to ASUS to allow AIO header calibration, same as for other connectors, if they do that I'll remove AI suite again

tabascosauz · Jan 20, 2021

biffzinker said:
I found out after installing MSI's Dragon Center along with some unnecessary bloat that I didn't care about (uninstalled what I could.) Under Live Update then clicking the advance button there was a firmware update for the BIOS Flashback button on this B450 Tomahawk. Anyone else knew there was firmware to update?

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INSTG8R said:
Yeah GB wants you to install their “Control Center“ for everything too but the RGB will go in standalone and all I actually need

If RGB is all you need have you looked into OpenRGB? I had this period of time where I was fed up with G.skill's RGB control so I tried it out. Didn't work particularly well with my RAM because sometimes the settings wouldn't stick (fuckin RGB RAM that can't be permanently turned off), but since I was using it anyways I thought I'd use it to control the Aura LED corner on my board and it always worked.

I've always had a deep seated hatred for these "utilities" from motherboard vendors whether it's some sort of EZ OC or RGB control. Half the time they don't even remember to start up properly, the other half of the time they break shit and cause issues or hog background resources. The fan control I used to understand because GB fan control in BIOS used to be complete dung, but much has changed since then

INSTG8R · Jan 20, 2021

tabascosauz said:
If RGB is all you need have you looked into OpenRGB? I had this period of time where I was fed up with G.skill's RGB control so I tried it out. Didn't work particularly well with my RAM because sometimes the settings wouldn't stick (fuckin RGB RAM that can't be permanently turned off), but since I was using it anyways I thought I'd use it to control the Aura LED corner on my board and it always worked.

I've always had a deep seated hatred for these "utilities" from motherboard vendors whether it's some sort of EZ OC or RGB control. Half the time they don't even remember to start up properly, the other half of the time they break shit and cause issues or hog background resources. The fan control I used to understand because GB fan control in BIOS used to be complete dung, but much has changed since then

It’s literally an open and close when I have to flash my BIOS because it resets my colour. I don’t need it open or running just one shot deal

Mussels · Jan 20, 2021

tabascosauz said:
If RGB is all you need have you looked into OpenRGB? I had this period of time where I was fed up with G.skill's RGB control so I tried it out. Didn't work particularly well with my RAM because sometimes the settings wouldn't stick (fuckin RGB RAM that can't be permanently turned off), but since I was using it anyways I thought I'd use it to control the Aura LED corner on my board and it always worked.

I've always had a deep seated hatred for these "utilities" from motherboard vendors whether it's some sort of EZ OC or RGB control. Half the time they don't even remember to start up properly, the other half of the time they break shit and cause issues or hog background resources. The fan control I used to understand because GB fan control in BIOS used to be complete dung, but much has changed since then

open RGB crashes on my mixed asus/corsair systems and takes out the lighting with it, needing the PSU to be unplugged before they recover

biffzinker · Jan 20, 2021

The thing that bugged me was there’s a update for the BIOS Flashback button feature but it doesn’t show up under the downloads section on MSI’s support page by Windows OS version. Instead the only way was through Live Update in their Dragon Center software bundle.

ChristTheGreat · Jan 21, 2021

New owner of a Ryzen 5800x!!!! IT'S A HOT CPU! Wow lol. Performance is amazing, but even with a Noctua NH-U14S, and a Noctua ippc 2000 pwm, prime is insane (90C), cinebench gets low 80C, fan at 100%, speed of 4.475/4.490ghz all core, and I set a negative offset of 0.06v.

I am thing maybe if an arctic freezer II 240mm would help a bit !!

Mussels · Jan 21, 2021

ChristTheGreat said:
New owner of a Ryzen 5800x!!!! IT'S A HOT CPU! Wow lol. Performance is amazing, but even with a Noctua NH-U14S, and a Noctua ippc 2000 pwm, prime is insane (90C), cinebench gets low 80C, fan at 100%, speed of 4.475/4.490ghz all core, and I set a negative offset of 0.06v.

I am thing maybe if an arctic freezer II 240mm would help a bit !!

Whatever you throw on it, it'll run in the 80's to 90 - its got extremely dense heat compared to anything else on the market

Durvelle27 · Jan 21, 2021

Mussels said:
Whatever you throw on it, it'll run in the 80's to 90 - its got extremely dense heat compared to anything else on the market

So far mine hardly exceeds 80*C

dgianstefani · Jan 21, 2021

Messing with curve optimiser and subtimings.

CPU die average temps don't go above 70c, CCD1 hits 78.

This is on non-bench cooling settings too, so it's very quiet. The chassis fans are NF-a4x10 x2 (RAM), 4xnfa12x25 are connected to CPU PWM.

I had a result of 1200 L3 cache at one point, so maybe some timing combination leads to that, or it was an error.

ChristTheGreat · Jan 21, 2021

Mussels said:
Whatever you throw on it, it'll run in the 80's to 90 - its got extremely dense heat compared to anything else on the market

yeah I saw that. it's just crazy. at least, in gaming it's okay. but I can't run WCG now

System Name	Space Heater MKIV
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard	ASRock B550 Taichi
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S, 3x Noctua NF-A14s
Memory	2x32GB Teamgroup T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4-3600 C18 1.35V
Video Card(s)	PowerColor RX 6800 XT Red Devil (2150MHz, 240W PL)
Storage	2TB WD SN850X, 4x1TB Crucial MX500 (striped array), LG WH16NS40 BD-RE
Display(s)	Dell S3422DWG (34" 3440x1440 144Hz)
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
Audio Device(s)	Edifier R1700BT, Samson SR850
Power Supply	Corsair RM850x, CyberPower CST135XLU
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Glorious GMMK 2 96%
Software	Windows 10 LTSC 2021, Linux Mint

System Name	ab┃ob
Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	AMD R7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Cooling	Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1
Memory	2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s)	Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage	WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s)	LG 50UP7100
Case	Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s)	JBL Bar 700
Power Supply	Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G213
VR HMD	Oculus 3
Software	Yes
Benchmark Scores	Yes

Processor	Intel i7 4770k
Motherboard	ASUS Sabertooth Z87
Cooling	BeQuiet! Shadow Rock 3
Memory	Patriot Viper 3 RedD 16 GB @ 1866 MHz
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 480 GTR 8GB
Storage	1x SSD Samsung EVO 250 GB 1x HDD Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 1x HDD Seagate Barracuda 4 TB
Display(s)	AOC Q27G2U QHD, Dell S2415H FHD
Case	Cooler Master HAF XM
Audio Device(s)	Magnat LZR 980, Razer BlackShark V2, Altec Lansing 251
Power Supply	Corsair AX860
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder V2
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

System Name	Unreal Machine IV
Processor	Ryzen 7 5700X
Motherboard	Asrock 570X Taichi
Cooling	Noctua U9S
Memory	Team UD4-4000 @4000 CL18 1:1
Video Card(s)	5600XT Red Devil
Storage	Kingston SSD 240GB + WD RED 4TB + WD Blue SN 550 Nvme 1TB X3
Display(s)	DELL U2417H
Case	Old school Termalthake xaser III black with lots of noctua 80mm fans
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion + Creative Inspire t7900 7.1 + Sony MDR-1A + AKG K-240
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse	Logitech G502 hero SE
Keyboard	Logitech
Software	10 pro
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 Multi ~15k 4.4Ghz all core Cinebench R23 single 1.5k 4.65Ghz

System Name	enormous
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix B550-XE
Cooling	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16-16GTZNC
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 (GA104)
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB & 960 EVO 500GB & TOSHIBA HDWD130 3TB & WDC WD20EFRX 2TB
Display(s)	BenQ BL2400 (BNQ8002) FHD-VA & LG 43UK6300MLB 4K IPS HDR
Case	Cooler Master 690 II Advanced (KWWN2)
Audio Device(s)	QPAD QH-91 / HyperX Cloud
Power Supply	Cooler Master V850 RS-850-AFBA-G1
Mouse	ROCCAT Kone Pure Core Performance RGB ROC-11-725 & 3dconnexion SpaceMouse Wireless
Keyboard	ROCCAT Ryos MK Glow Mechanical ROC-12-759-BK

Processor	Core i7-13700
Motherboard	MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi
Cooling	Cooler Master RGB Tower cooler
Memory	Crucial Pro 5600 32GB kit OCed to 6600
Video Card(s)	XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming
Storage	970 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB,,WD850N 2TB
Display(s)	Samsung 28” 4K monitor
Case	Phantek Eclipse P400S
Audio Device(s)	EVGA NU Audio, Edifier Bookshelf Speakers R1280
Power Supply	EVGA 850 BQ
Mouse	Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard	Logitech G G413 Silver
Software	Windows 11 Professional v24H2

System Name	Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts)
Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max
Cooling	TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res
Memory	2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16
Video Card(s)	Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX
Storage	970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB
Display(s)	Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400
Case	TT Kandalf L.C.S.
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1
Power Supply	Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum
Mouse	G502 Hero
Keyboard	G19s
VR HMD	Oculus Quest 3
Software	Win 11 Pro x64

System Name	CTG Computer
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard	Asrock B650M PRO RS WIFI
Cooling	Thermalright PA120 SE
Memory	2x 16gb G.SKILL F5-6000J3038F16GX2-FX5
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte RX6800XT Gaming OC
Storage	WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s)	MAG274QRF-QD \| Asus vg248qe
Case	SAMA IM01
Audio Device(s)	Creative SoundBlasterx G6
Power Supply	Corsair SF750
Mouse	Logitech G pro Wireless
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB MK2
Software	Windows 11 Pro x64

System Name	Black Prometheus
Processor	\|
Cooling	Thermalright PA120 SE \|
Storage	Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB
Display(s)	LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz
Case	DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s)	LG Dolby Atmos 5.1
Mouse	Logitech Trackman
Keyboard	Logitech K350
Software	Windows 10 EDU x64

System Name	Silent/X1 Yoga/S25U-1TB
Processor	Ryzen 9800X3D @ 5.575ghz all core 1.24 V, Thermal Grizzly AM5 High Performance Heatspreader/1185 G7
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans replaced with Noctua A14x25 G2
Cooling	Optimus Block, HWLabs Copper 240/40 + 240/30, D5/Res, 4x Noctua A12x25, 1x A14G2, Mayhems Ultra Pure
Memory	64 GB Dominator Titanium White 6000 MT, 130 ns tRFC, active cooled
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock
Storage	Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB
Display(s)	32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear, MX900 dual gas VESA mount
Case	Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front, LINKUP Ultra PCIe 4.0 x16 White
Audio Device(s)	Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet w/upgrade pads & LCD headband, Galaxy Buds 3 Pro, Razer Nommo Pro
Power Supply	SF1000 Plat, full transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS w/Noctua
Mouse	Razer Viper V3 Pro 8 KHz Mercury White & Pulsar Supergrip tape, Razer Atlas, Razer Strider Chroma
Keyboard	Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU-R CNC Alu/Brass, SS Prismcaps W+Jellykey, LekkerV2 mod, TLabs Leath/Suede
Software	Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores	Legendary

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