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I'd just wait for Intel Alder Lake with 10nm or Meteor Lake with 7nm fabrication process.
You could have to wait a long time...
 
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just like a price increase for the same number of cores is just, AMD...

It would be so much better if fanboysm would be left out of this forum...

I’m not defending Rocket Lake, and if you look at my first comment I’m criticizing Intel since the beginning for this product.
But I really don’t think AMD is any better, on the price policy, and I’d like AMD supporters to avoid some comments here.
The only loser this year is the customer, even if new CPUs actually are better.

In which parallel dimension ?
Those prices are not official, but even if they are right, an i9 11900K would be priced €500... well, reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe.
Both companies are lying to us about prices (at least AMD is... but I’m sure will be the same for Intel)

Only one post after you whine about fanboyism, you fill a post with it. You're so far gone you don't even see it anymore.

A customer compares product in store on price/performance. What you're doing is drawing conclusions based on the numbers and facts you've cobbled together yourself in your own selective fashion and then start talking about the companies not the products. Yes, both companies price their products the way they like. Customers then have a choice to either buy it or not. Welcome to the planet.

By the way, I figured I'd check a little on that supposed non existant 7nm TSMC stuff

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Maybe you should go get a glass of water and wear normal glasses.
 
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Combine this with high motherboard prices and I don't see why this will be too successful against Ryzen 5000.
The only reason I can think of it is higher volume available in the channel, which has always been Intel's strong suit.
 
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Have you checked what currency I'm using? It's dollar, not EUR. 500 EUR and $600 next to it. 5800X is $450 and 5900 is $550.

"reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe"

Well, actually my pal, you are simply LYING or just have no clue regarding prices. Caseking: 469 EUR, Mindfactory: 458 EUR. In my country (Hungary), many shops are selling it from 162000 to 170000 Ft which is 450-470 EUR and we have Europe's highest VAT rate with 27%. All these prices in EUR are parallel with the $450 MSRP (+20-27% VAT). If you see a 5800X for much higher prices it means supplies are short. That's the only reason.

The other reason you see 500 EUR - $600 in the TPU news is the thing the 500 EUR price doesn't include the VAT. 500+ 20% VAT = 600 EUR. That's the price tag you will see on the 11900K - if $600 is the MSRP Intel set.




Of course nobody likes that CPUs got a $50 inrease. BUT at least with Zen 3 you can argue for that increase (if you are a representative from AMD): huge (and really huge) IPC boost, great increase in single core and even multi core performance (all leading to the fact that your 6/12 CPU is beating or being really close the rivals 8/16 CPU in applications), much better efficiency than even the good efficiency it had earlier and still having an all-generation AM4 compatibility with B450 motherboards, supporting all 4 generation of Ryzen CPUs.
Yes if you check on German sellers... actually two of them.
On Amazon prices are higher, most of the times above 500€, if you can find one.
So your point about 30€ less is a non sense: 5800X is way overpriced since the beginning. Even at 470€.

But I know, according to AMD supporters AMD can’t be wrong. Even when it is.

I'd rather wait than go for an overpriced 125W Intel room heater.
I wouldn’t buy a Rocket Lake too...
 
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In which parallel dimension ?
Those prices are not official, but even if they are right, an i9 11900K would be priced €500... well, reality check you cannot find any 5800X at €500 in Europe.
Both companies are lying to us about prices (at least AMD is... but I’m sure will be the same for Intel)
Yes you can and for a bit lower than 500 EUR.
 
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Only one post after you whine about fanboyism, you fill a post with it. You're so far gone you don't even see it anymore.

A customer compares product in store on price/performance. What you're doing is drawing conclusions based on the numbers and facts you've cobbled together yourself in your own selective fashion and then start talking about the companies not the products. Yes, both companies price their products the way they like. Customers then have a choice to either buy it or not. Welcome to the planet.

By the way, I figured I'd check a little on that supposed non existant 7nm TSMC stuff

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Maybe you should go get a glass of water and wear normal glasses.
Lol, you just proven my point, listing a lot of 500€ 8 cores AMD CPUs...

And by the way this Intel fanboy has two PCs with a Ryzen CPU inside.

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So much for an Intel fanboy... :kookoo::kookoo::kookoo:
 
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Lol, you just proven my point, listing a lot of 500€ 8 cores AMD CPUs...

And by the way this Intel fanboy has two PCs with a Ryzen CPU inside.

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So much for an Intel fanboy... :kookoo::kookoo::kookoo:

Your point was there were no 500 dollar Ryzen 7 5800Xes in Europe. I just showed you today's pricing with several 24/5 deliverable 500 dollar 5800Xes. Its not one shop. Its half a dozen. You're talking out of your ass.

Your point was you didn't like fanboys. You're now again talking about them as if I called you one. I didn't. I said you need to step back and drop the whole rhetoric. Those fanboys exist in the eyes of the beholder - you.

In another topic you said just as much that there is no 7nm TSMC product out there. The numbers tell us a totally different story. Demand is high, but the product is being moved.
 
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LOL @ Intel!
 
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Yes you can and for a bit lower than 500 EUR.
Just one store, because every other is above 500€ according to today change...

By the way this is not changing my point : 5800X is an overpriced 8C/16T CPU, like literally any AMD CPU released this year.
Intel Rocket Lake is a boring product, but unfortunately AMD has changed policy this year, after years of good pricing.

Your point was there were no 500 dollar Ryzen 7 5800Xes in Europe. I just showed you today's pricing with several 24/5 deliverable 500 dollar 5800Xes. Its not one shop. Its half a dozen. You're talking out of your ass.

Your point was you didn't like fanboys. You're now again talking about them as if I called you one. I didn't. I said you need to step back and drop the whole rhetoric. Those fanboys exist in the eyes of the beholder - you.

In another topic you said just as much that there is no 7nm TSMC product out there. The numbers tell us a totally different story. Demand is high, but the product is being moved.
Point me out where I can buy a PS5. Or a 6800XT. Or one Xbox Series X (What a bad naming ...).

You literally found 499€ Ryzen 5800X (yes, you are right 1 euro below my point, you won all ! Congrats). 8C/16T sold for 500€ (ops, I did it again, it is 499€ ! Even 489€ in one shop !) and you consider that a deal !?!

I bought a 3900X, 12C/24T, for 380€ on Amazon.de , sold and shipped by Amazon. That was a good pricing. That was AMD before they realized there were no competition and they switched on “Intel MODE”.
 
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Just one store, because every other is above 500€ according to today change...

By the way this is not changing my point : 5800X is an overpriced 8C/16T CPU, like literally any AMD CPU released this year.
Intel Rocket Lake is a boring product, but unfortunately AMD has changed policy this year, after years of good pricing.


Point me out where I can buy a PS5. Or a 6800XT.

You literally found 499€ Ryzen 5800X (yes, you are right 1 euro below my point, you won all ! Congrats). 8C/16T sold for 500€ (ops, I did it again, it is 499€ ! Even 489€ in one shop !) and you consider that a deal !?!

I bought a 3900X, 12C/24T, for 380€ on Amazon.de , sold and shipped by Amazon. That was a good pricing. That was AMD before they realized there were no competition and they switched on “Intel MODE”.
Yes you are changing your point and most of what you posted here is now verified bullshit.

Just admit you were wrong and stop digging.
 
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Yes you are changing your point and most of what you posted here is now verified bullshit.

Just admit you were wrong and stop digging.
Still waiting for the list of shops where I can buy all those 7 nm products...
 
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Intel is releasing a 550 usd cpu that makes a 5800x look a good deal, 100 dollars more and is only better at gamming by a very low margin. I wont see a reason to go back intel for a while.
 

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I just can't stop gigling about the last image. "Built for gaming". What time to be alive, now intel will just go for " le gamers"?
 
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Intel is releasing a 550 usd cpu that makes a 5800x look a good deal, 100 dollars more and is only better at gamming by a very low margin. I wont see a reason to go back intel for a while.
Yep. This the really sad point.
Disregarding what AMD supporters are saying, the real losers here are we customers, that after a few years of good pricing are going to pay more for the same cores count (if not even less, as for the “fake” i9 11900K :shadedshu: ).
 
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Just one store, because every other is above 500€ according to today change...
That is from today's change and it is not just one store but several. If you consider Norway as the highest prices in EU for electronic equipment, this is a decent price considering the MSRP is $450 for the 5800X. Nowhere in EU you would get it for the MSRP price especially nowadays with the supply demand.
I'm sorry? Your point was you can't buy 5800XT for a 500 EUR in EU and you can so not much of a point.
 
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I just can't stop gigling about the last image. "Built for gaming". What time to be alive, now intel will just go for " le gamers"?
Gaming was the last Intel stronghold, before Zen 3 launch.
So now on a marketing point of view they are desperately trying to regain at least that...
 
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The other reason you see 500 EUR - $600 in the TPU news is the thing the 500 EUR price doesn't include the VAT. 500+ 20% VAT = 600 EUR. That's the price tag you will see on the 11900K - if $600 is the MSRP Intel set.
It is the other way around. That 500€ already includes VAT, generally around 20% depending on specific country. The source for this specific blurb is Belgian store, VAT 21%.
Converting to US prices - without 21% VAT, it would be 413€ that should convert pretty exactly to $500.

Intel is releasing a 550 usd cpu that makes a 5800x look a good deal, 100 dollars more and is only better at gamming by a very low margin. I wont see a reason to go back intel for a while.
Depends on how you choose to look at it. Intel is also releasing a 282€ 8-core CPU and a 353€ or 377€ overclockable one to compete... with 6-core 5600X, I guess.
 
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That is from today's change and it is not just one store but several. If you consider Norway as the highest prices in EU for electronic equipment, this is a decent price considering the MSRP is $450 for the 5800X. Nowhere in EU you would get it for the MSRP price especially nowadays with the supply demand.
I'm sorry? Your point was you can't buy 5800XT for a 500 EUR in EU and you can so not much of a point.
It is just one shop.
The one listing at 5150 kr (which is 497€ according to today Google exchange rate).
The second is 5189 kr which is technically more than 500€, since all of you supporters are being picky on purpose ...

By the way, all of you are being picky in order to defend the beloved brand ignoring the point behind my words: 500€ for an 8 core CPU is not a good price. Also 497€ are NOT a good price.
430€ for a 12core CPU were a good price.
But keep ignoring it, if you wish.
 
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It is just one shop.
The one listing at 5150 kr (which is 497€ according to today Google exchange rate).
The second is 5189 kr which is technically more than 500€, since all of you supporters are being picky on purpose ...

By the way, all of you are being picky in order to defend the beloved brand ignoring the point behind my words: 500€ for an 8 core CPU is not a good price. Also 497€ are NOT a good price.
430€ for a 12core CPU were a good price.
But keep ignoring it, if you wish.
You are unbelievable. You are going to count cents to prove your point which is incorrect anyway? From "you can't buy it for 500 EUR" you are now saying "but it is just one store only". Make up your mind. Even when the availability is great, each store has a different price for a same product.
Nobody is defending any brand and these are the facts. You can buy 5800x for 500 EUR in EU.
Besides, how many stores would you want in a country that has approximately 5 million people population lol.
 
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You are unbelievable. You are going to count cents to prove your point which is incorrect anyway? From "you can't buy it for 500 EUR" you are now saying "but it is just one store only". Make up your mind. Even when the availability is great, each store has a different price for a same product.
Nobody is defending any brand and these are the facts. You can buy 5800x for 500 EUR in EU.
Don’t you get it ?
500 or 497 or even 489€ for an 8 core ARE NOT A GOOD DEAL.
This is the new AMD, which resemble too much the Intel we all criticized in the past...

Do you want to win ? Yes you were right. You can actually buy a 5800X for 497€ in your country ! Cheers ! Are you feeling any better ?
It still is an 8 cores CPU sold at more than the previous 12 cores CPU from the same brand.
 
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That 500€ already includes VAT, generally around 20% depending on specific country.
I think in most parts of the world the tax is actually included in the purchase.
For example in the case of India, we have 18% GST(goods and services tax) on purchase of electronics.
I bought my 3060Ti for INR 35,900($491) out of which INR 30,424($416) was the price of the card and INR 5476($75) was tax.
Pretty close to the MSRP in the US if you don't include taxes.
If, on the other hand, it takes more than $17 to ship in the US, then it's actually on par :D
 
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I think in most parts of the world the tax is actually included in the purchase.
Yes. But the quoted $ prices are pretty much always US and with that weird US tax system :)
 
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Yes. But the quoted $ prices are pretty much always US and with that weird US tax system :)
On top of that, in some states taxes are actually much worse than in others.
My cousin bought a laptop for $749.99 on Best Buy, but he actually had to pay $825.36, because of high taxes in California.
 
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Don’t you get it ?
500 or 497 or even 489€ for an 8 core ARE NOT A GOOD DEAL.
This is the new AMD, which resemble too much the Intel we all criticized in the past...

Do you want to win ? Yes you were right. You can actually buy a 5800X for 497€ in your country ! Cheers ! Are you feeling any better ?
It still is an 8 cores CPU sold at more than the previous 12 cores CPU from the same brand.
It is not about winning. Dude chillax. You need to calm down and get your facts straight.
If you ask me if the 500 EUR is OK for the 5800x that would depend. If you play games only then definitely not. If you do more than that it might be worth it. This is more complex problem here.
If you are willing to wait with any purchases you may buy that CPU cheaper when the availability grows a bit.
I'm sorry but the MSRP for 3900x was $500 so you are not right. MSRP for 5800x is $449 The MSRP prices for both is higher nowadays due to the situation we are dealing with right now. Covid, supply shortages, demand. You need to put all these into the equation not just what proves your point.
 
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