Stop acting like AMD didn't provide a 20% performance increase...why do so many people think they're entitled to a lot more performance with a commiserate price decrease? seriously. Let's also not forget that the 1800x debuted for $500 and the 5800X is $450 with at least 40% performance increase....did Intel provide anything even remotely close to such a performance increase in the same amount of time in the same time period? If anybody can point to another CPU company providing more to the consumer in the same time period, by all means, whine all you want about AMD...but seriously, I feel like the people whining about the $50 increase (for the literally fastest CPUs on the market) aren't doing so because it's justified base on the subjective circumstances, rather they're whining out of an unjustified sense of entitlement, namely that they're entitled to AMD selling them products at cost or something. For years they complained "AMD needs to make better products", so they do, they make faster CPUs on a more advanced node, and somehow they also think they should still be priced as if they're slower than the competition and on 28nm...seriously, where do you get off? You can't have it both ways. I'm not trying to defend AMD or any corporation either, I'm militantly anti-corporation, but if you're going to criticize something, no matter what it is, it has to be justified and not just because "I want things cheaper because I want things cheaper".