Help to decide - 3200 CL16 / 3600 CL16?

[freeagent]

Sorry, I meant rank.

 

[Durvelle27]

I’ll just leave these here

these were taken from the tech spot review

“Bottom line, if you’re a gamer wanting to maximize performance, if and when you run into CPU limited situations, and want the best bang for your buck, then we recommend getting DDR4-3600 CL16 memory. For most we suspect 16 GB will be fine, but if you can afford more, 32GB is nice and it means if you purchase two 16GB kits you’ll also have the advantage of dual ranked operation.”

 

[Night]

I’ll just leave these here

these were taken from the tech spot review

“Bottom line, if you’re a gamer wanting to maximize performance, if and when you run into CPU limited situations, and want the best bang for your buck, then we recommend getting DDR4-3600 CL16 memory. For most we suspect 16 GB will be fine, but if you can afford more, 32GB is nice and it means if you purchase two 16GB kits you’ll also have the advantage of dual ranked operation.”

Should also be noted that not all 16 GB DIMMs are dual rank, some are single rank.

 

[Deleted member 193596]

Should also be noted that not all 16 GB DIMMs are dual rank, some are single rank.

i've never seen single rank 16gb Dimms for desktop.
the only that i know are SO-Dimms from crucial.

 

[Durvelle27]

Just to add I run 32GB( 2x16GB) Dual rank @3600

 

[Night]

i've never seen single rank 16gb Dimms for desktop.
the only that i know are SO-Dimms from crucial.

Some of the newer models should be single rank.

 

[freeagent]

I've been inspired to pull 2 sticks out and push some buttons

 

[ThrashZone]

At what point did 10ns memory become crap?

Hi,
Crap as in over clocking ability 3200c16 I doubt will ever do 3600 stable might only be worth 200mhz over rated speed and that's a big maybe heck it might not even do 3200 stable lol
Cas latency in this sets example 3200c16
c16 x 2 = 32 same number as the speed this always means oc ability is poor, low bin this is why it's usually cheaper in the op question "is 3600c16 worth 100.us more" and the best answer, yes it is
But there are also cheap kits at 3600c16 too but the op is preferring to stay on the qvl so between the two sets posted 3600c16 yes it's worth 100.us more seeing it can do 4000mhz easily so it is a far superior product.

And to add on the RGB matter...
The software for controlling RGB is the worst ever made. Causing issues, from not letting CPU to fall to low C-States up to system crashes. I literally hate them...

Indeed from the pits of hell lol

 

[freeagent]

Indeed from the pits of hell lol

I have never used RGB before, but Asus is terrible. The VRM light is messed up, I know its a software issue because the last time it happened a bios update fixed it lol.. Swore I would never use it again but couldn't leave it alone and now its borked again. Bios update didn't fix it

Its terrible. I don't know what I was thinking

OTH the system is pretty happy with only 2 sticks in. Took a small hit but nothing I can tell by using it with no 3D. Honestly I don't even care, I'm just going to run the one pair.. Ill tune it a bit more but just going to leave it after that.

It was fine @ stock lol..

 

[ThrashZone]

I have never used RGB before, but Asus is terrible. The VRM light is messed up, I know its a software issue because the last time it happened a bios update fixed it lol.. Swore I would never use it again but couldn't leave it alone and now its borked again. Bios update didn't fix it

Its terrible. I don't know what I was thinking

OTH the system is pretty happy with only 2 sticks in. Took a small hit but nothing I can tell by using it with no 3D. Honestly I don't even care, I'm just going to run the one pair.. Ill tune it a bit more but just going to leave it after that.

It was fine @ stock lol..

Hi,
Yeah I turn rgb off in bios
Avoid rgb on hardware memory especially none of my kits have it
Entered g-skill for platinum and gold drawings pretty sure I'd just sell the memory kits if I won either of them 4000c18 2x16 or 3600c16 2x16
Head phones or keyboard keys I wouldn't even pay for shipping... lol

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

 

[thesmokingman]

4 sticks can either be dual rank, quad rank, 4 sticks != quad rank.

And you'd be wrong cuz you're ignoring the fundamental underneath like literally ignoring the number of ranks. As Zach mentioned sticks can be dual or single rank, so no you count the ranks not sticks.

 

[saarxee]

That sounds like you are going to use all 4 DIMM slots. My thought process is to get the 3600 16. Even though the MB may be able to OC to 3600 from 3200 I doubt that you will see 16 timings. 3600 is the best speed for AM4 as it gives a 1 to 1 FCLK (1800 mhz). The other option would be to get the 3200 set and try to downclock them to 14 timings. I know you may be set on Royal Z but Adata D60G RAM are also good and the whole heat spreader is ARGB.

ADATA XPG Spectrix D60G RGB 16GB DDR4-3600 CL18 Dual Channel Kit (2x 8GB), Tungsten Grey - PC4-28800 DDR4 3600 - Memory Express Inc.

www.memoryexpress.com

I quoted you on the first page.. you can help please?

 

[kapone32]

I quoted you on the first page.. you can help please?

You are correct you don't want 2x32 GB sticks but if you want 64 GB you could get 32GB for now and get another 32GB later.

XPG Spectrix D60G Dual RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4 U-DIMM CL18 Desktop Gaming Memory Kit (AX4U3600316G18A-DT60) : Amazon.ca: Electronics

XPG Spectrix D60G Dual RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4 U-DIMM CL18 Desktop Gaming Memory Kit (AX4U3600316G18A-DT60) : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

vs

G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRGC - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRGC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

You could buy 2 of the Adata 32GB sets for less money and still have excellent lighting effects.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah 3600c18 at least would be closer to your optimum frequency on amd
OC ability would still be as bad as 3200c16 without much if any left 1-200mhz

 

[saarxee]

You are correct you don't want 2x32 GB sticks but if you want 64 GB you could get 32GB for now and get another 32GB later.

XPG Spectrix D60G Dual RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4 U-DIMM CL18 Desktop Gaming Memory Kit (AX4U3600316G18A-DT60) : Amazon.ca: Electronics

XPG Spectrix D60G Dual RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4 U-DIMM CL18 Desktop Gaming Memory Kit (AX4U3600316G18A-DT60) : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

vs

G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRGC - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTRGC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

You could buy 2 of the Adata 32GB sets for less money and still have excellent lighting effects.

You read my quote on the first page?
If I buy 2X16GB right now I not sure it does work if in the future I upgrade to 64GB.. with xmp and all

 

[thesmokingman]

You read my quote on the first page?
If I buy 2X16GB right now I not sure it does work if in the future I upgrade to 64GB.. with xmp and all

There's a disconnect here. What are you after dram density or performance, because you're not going to get both.

 

[saarxee]

There's a disconnect here. What are you after dram density or performance, because you're not going to get both.

Why not...
and I see some 4000 CL18 sticks also

 

[thesmokingman]

Why not...
and I see some 4000 CL18 sticks also

That doesn't mean they'll run that speed, duh! Look up the dram specs, max density specification is 2667mhz on Zen 2/3.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Think the goal posts were moved a tad bit

 

[lexluthermiester]

You read my quote on the first page?
If I buy 2X16GB right now I not sure it does work if in the future I upgrade to 64GB.. with xmp and all

As long as you buy a matching set(running specs not brand) you'll be fine.

 

[saarxee]

As long as you buy a matching set(running specs not brand) you'll be fine.

Not sure..
some people complain about that.. they buy same sticks and it doesnt work.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not sure..
some people complain about that.. they buy same sticks and it doesnt work.

You'll be fine

 

[Waldorf]

not for amd, unless the chips on the stick are identical.
intel is no problem, but so far the only mixed sticks working on amd are either running jedec (not xmp) or have same die, to run stable.
just the fact that kits of same model/density/clocks/timings are being released with different dies, and manufacturer are actually saying you should NOT use the intel on amd or mix an intel and a amd on amd platform.

still not seen one reason for +16gb, nor the need for DR, unless you want to impress with benchmarks.
gaming will improve much more saving the difference between 16 and 32/64gb, and put it towards gpu/other upgrades.

its like installing a 209gal tank in your car, just so you only have to fill up once a year, while wasting energy driving around with lots of mass/weight to do so.

 

[Yearofthegoat]

Appreciate this thread is old, but I came across it looking at what to do re. RAM upgrade.

A couple of things on here don't seem right to me - for example "3200 CL16 will never overclock to 3600". Well, my 16GB Corsair 3200s are running fine at 3600CL16 right now.

Also, the "not for AMD, unless the chips on the stick are identical". Well, I borrowed a pair of 3200CL16 Crucials from my kids' PC, and they run fine at 3200CL16 with the Corsairs. I.e. 4x8, two Corsairs, two Crucials.

I'm torn between getting two more Corsair 3200CL16s, and overclocking the resultant 4x8 to 3600CL16 - because I know at least two sticks will do it - or getting Corsair 3600CL16, so that only two sticks will be overclocked.

So the question is really will 4 sticks overclock in a similar fashion to 2 sticks. Something in the back of my mind says it's harder to OC 4 sticks though.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep old thread

Corsair is hit or miss
Mostly miss for myself but corsair sticks have a VER# on each stick if they match they are from the same bin so will work better than if they don't match.

I highly doubt 3200c16 can do 3600c16 but here you can post results

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