Xeon Owners Club

[Zyll Goliat]

Does anyone here own a 2660/2670/2673/2678 v3 here? If yes, what chinese mobo do you recommend for it?

Go and visit Miyconst channel or his site and you will find out all about X99 Chinese mobo's...GL

 

[TheUnbrained]

Hello ma dudes,

it looks like, i wanna join the xeon masterrace again but yeah there is a problem:

anyone have "generic" experience with BCLK OC´ing an E5-2650v4 or 2680v4?

background: stuck with my i7 5820k, hate it -> wanted i7 6950x, to expensive lel -> some ES, MB does not support any -> E5 2650v4/2680v4, relatively inexpensive + works with MB
Need much higher core count but also dont want to lose my single-thread performance...

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Hello ma dudes,

it looks like, i wanna join the xeon masterrace again but yeah there is a problem:

anyone have "generic" experience with BCLK OC´ing an E5-2650v4 or 2680v4?

background: stuck with my i7 5820k, hate it -> wanted i7 6950x, to expensive lel -> some ES, MB does not support any -> E5 2650v4/2680v4, relatively inexpensive + works with MB
Need much higher core count but also dont want to lose my single-thread performance...

Personally I have only experience with X79 V2 Xeons and my current 2697 V2 OC great via BCLK (115,2)+turbo also I owned 2650 V2 and that one also went up to the 113 on BCLK...now when it comes to the X99 and V4 Xeons CPU's I never tried but all stories that I heard are not so promising when it comes to the BCLK OC most likely best case scenario will be around 105.....tho' you never know...

 

[Toothless]

Timings and voltage?

9-9-9-24 at 1.7v

4.1ghz not giving you any love?

This thing gives no love.

 

[Edwired]

9-9-9-24 at 1.7v


This thing gives no love.

What settings have you set in the bios with photos or make a template listing the settings so we all can look.

Weird bug popped up in my board as it thrown an memory management error linked to 0x0000001a which I know related to unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore. This happened just once when I had the powerplanswitcher set to power save as when the issue popped up it thrown the graphic card out driver out the window as it said driver wasn't verified by windows which I though was strange as there's plenty of voltage feeding the cpu, imc, ram

 

[Toothless]

What settings have you set in the bios with photos or make a template listing the settings so we all can look.

Weird bug popped up in my board as it thrown an memory management error linked to 0x0000001a which I know related to unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore. This happened just once when I had the powerplanswitcher set to power save as when the issue popped up it thrown the graphic card out driver out the window as it said driver wasn't verified by windows which I though was strange as there's plenty of voltage feeding the cpu, imc, ram

If the ram clock goes too high, banks go missing. I can drop it to 800mhz and up the bclk but after 4.4ghz it starts going away. If I set 4.25ghz I get WHEA issues and crashes which could be core voltage. I can set 1.45v if I wanted but I'd need better fans for the AIOs and that's more money.

My best bet is trying the 1600mhz 6x2 kit and trying again. If that works then I'll be looking to get another or a 6x4. I don't exactly have all the time in the world to keep playing with it.

 

[Edwired]

If the ram clock goes too high, banks go missing. I can drop it to 800mhz and up the bclk but after 4.4ghz it starts going away. If I set 4.25ghz I get WHEA issues and crashes which could be core voltage. I can set 1.45v if I wanted but I'd need better fans for the AIOs and that's more money.

My best bet is trying the 1600mhz 6x2 kit and trying again. If that works then I'll be looking to get another or a 6x4. I don't exactly have all the time in the world to keep playing with it.

I seen ram go missing after a certain mem clock you might need to loosing trfc as it listed in AIDA64 as mine is set auto to trfc 88 according to the spd spec. Otherwise you be banging your head adding too much or too little of voltages sometimes doesn't solve it.
Try loosing to 10-10-10-28 at the same voltage and try again as memory timing can be the issue if the board is tighting it automatically.

Unless the qpi link is been push pass it rated speed can cause it get unstable same goes for the uncore speed. You have to dial back these first and test again

Screenshot the CPUID that way we can see where the qpi link and northbridge frequency is going

 

[Toothless]

I seen ram go missing after a certain mem clock you might need to loosing trfc as it listed in AIDA64 as mine is set auto to trfc 88 according to the spd spec. Otherwise you be banging your head adding too much or too little of voltages sometimes doesn't solve it.
Try loosing to 10-10-10-28 at the same voltage and try again as memory timing can be the issue if the board is tighting it automatically.

Unless the qpi link is been push pass it rated speed can cause it get unstable same goes for the uncore speed. You have to dial back these first and test again

Screenshot the CPUID that way we can see where the qpi link and northbridge frequency is going

If I get time, sure.

 

[lexluthermiester]

My best bet is trying the 1600mhz 6x2 kit and trying again.

That might render you some success in your OC effort. Give it a try.

 

[freeagent]

I love my X58. I listed it again with my X5690 E.S., Rampage III Formula, and 6GB STT 2000 CL8 Hypers.

It got no love so that will be the last time I list it I think. I don't want to let it go but I want new hardware.

And I don't want to pay for it lol.. I guess my old hardware is only valuable to me

My X48 Xeon X3360 with Rampage Formula and 4GB G.Skill PC8500 got no love either.

Friends till the end

 

[Toothless]

I love my X58. I listed it again with my X5690 E.S., Rampage III Formula, and 6GB STT 2000 CL8 Hypers.

It got no love so that will be the last time I list it I think. I don't want to let it go but I want new hardware.

And I don't want to pay for it lol.. I guess my old hardware is only valuable to me

My X48 Xeon X3360 with Rampage Formula and 4GB G.Skill PC8500 got no love either.

Friends till the end

If it won't sell, crank it on WCG and let it stretch til it's last days.

 

[freeagent]

I've been thinking about that, its cool down here in the basement. I will make my way down to that section and have a looksey soon

 

[bobbybluz]

I just came across this listing on Ebay. Seriously? Even at Amazon prices I could buy 10-12 of them for that price.
Intel Xeon E5-2699A v4 22-Core 2.4GHz SR30Y Broadwell-EP Processor - Grade A | eBay

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Hello ma dudes,

it looks like, i wanna join the xeon masterrace again but yeah there is a problem:

anyone have "generic" experience with BCLK OC´ing an E5-2650v4 or 2680v4?

background: stuck with my i7 5820k, hate it -> wanted i7 6950x, to expensive lel -> some ES, MB does not support any -> E5 2650v4/2680v4, relatively inexpensive + works with MB
Need much higher core count but also dont want to lose my single-thread performance...

One more thing......Did you maybe consider Xeon V3?As I know 2678 V3 is really cheap + on Xeons V3 it's possible to do all core turbo hack so.....

 

[Edwired]

Just a question for anyone I know the IOH is for the northbridge and the ICH is the southbridge along with IOH PCIE and ICH PCIE. Is there any reason for tweaking these settings as I'm kinda lost in the translations of understanding it. As I can't find specific details explaining which one does what in the bios?

 

[Mr.Scott]

Just a question for anyone I know the IOH is for the northbridge and the ICH is the southbridge along with IOH PCIE and ICH PCIE. Is there any reason for tweaking these settings as I'm kinda lost in the translations of understanding it. As I can't find specific details explaining which one does what in the bios?

Mine are on auto.

 

[freeagent]

I do increase IOH.. I have a hard time running over 4Ghz without moving it.. I don't know why.. My CPU is an E.S. its been a little weird from time to time. Mostly pretty good though.. I think I set 1.29v and get 1.25v.. something like that.. I would have to look its been awhile..

 

[Toothless]

got em'

 

[lexluthermiester]

got em'

What's you current OC on those two?

 

[Toothless]

What's you current OC on those two?

4415mhz. Followed your guide in the other thread and got it stable but at the sacrifice of ram speeds. Attempted higher bclk and that just messed everything up.

If I went higher on the VTT (at 1.375v now) I might get 4.5ghz stable. A bit concerned about how high it is already.

Edit: not fully stable. Gonna try 4.3

 

[lexluthermiester]

4415mhz. Followed your guide in the other thread and got it stable but at the sacrifice of ram speeds.

That's the result I usually see with a stable S1366 OC. RAM speeds aren't as important on S1366 and slight decreases only have minor affect on overall performance.

Attempted higher bclk and that just messed everything up.

200mhz BCLK? You have a slightly unique setup though. Dual CPU's are a whole new level of difficulty where OC's are concerned. Still doable, but it's a lot more fiddly than a single CPU system. I'm impressed you got it that high of an OC on a dual TBH.

If I went higher on the VTT (at 1.375v now) I might get 4.5ghz stable. A bit concerned about how high it is already.

Yeah that's a bit high. I wouldn't be comfortable with a VTT that high. But if it works...

Edit: not fully stable. Gonna try 4.3

Under load or just on desktop?

 

[Toothless]

That's the result I usually see with a stable S1366 OC. RAM speeds aren't as important on S1366 and slight decreases are only have minor affect on overall performance.

200mhz BCLK? You have a slightly unique setup though. Dual CPU's are a whole new level of difficulty where OC's are concerned. Still doable, but it's a lot more fiddly than a single CPU system. I'm impressed you got it that high one a dual TBH.

Yeah that's a bit high. I wouldn't be comfortable with a VTT that high. But if it works...

Under load or just on desktop?

200mhz bclk won't work. I gotta max the multi and go from there. VTT at 1.4v and I'll probably drop it after checking if that's really why 4.4ghz won't work or not. Ram is 800mhz set and bumped from bclk. Uncore 2400 and something else 1600. I miss my camera working.

Under load btw.


Vcore 1.425v
VTT 1.35v
Dimm 1.7v
PLL 1.89v
Rest auto.

176x25.
QPI @ 4.8.
MCH 1600.
Uncore 2400mhz. (18x)

Like I said earlier, maybe the ram being 1333mhz rated is the issue and I need to use higher rated stuff.

 

[bobbybluz]

Has anybody here played with a 22 core E5 2699 V4 or E5 2696 V4 yet?

 

[lexluthermiester]

PLL 1.89v

Bump this up one notch. For that BCLK the PLL needs a slight boost, generally.

Like I said earlier, maybe the ram being 1333mhz rated is the issue and I need to use higher rated stuff.

Is the RAM speed being pushed up much past the 1333mhz mark? 1340 or 1350 ish should be ok, much beyond that and you'll get stability issues even with a DRAM voltage bump, which I highly discourage. anything beyond the rated 1.65 and you risk burning out the IMC. I've seen it happen, it's not worth risking. I recommend getting some DDR3-1600 or even some DDR3-1866(which they make in ECC RDIMMs) as those can be downclocked a bit and then when the BCLK pushes them into a higher state it will not matter as the SPD will simply shift the timings around to match.

Has anybody here played with a 22 core E5 2699 V4 or E5 2696 V4 yet?

Unfortunately not me. Would be fun though!

 

[Toothless]

Bump this up one notch. For that BCLK the PLL needs a slight boost, generally.

Is the RAM speed being pushed up much past the 1333mhz mark? 1340 or 1350 ish should be ok, much beyond that and you'll get stability issues even with a DRAM voltage bump, which I highly discourage. anything beyond the rated 1.65 and you risk burning out the IMC. I've seen it happen, it's not worth risking.

Unfortunately not me. Would be fun though!

Anything past 1333 and it gets flushed. That PLL should be already a bump but back to 1.905 it goes.